gotosy Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 December 27 - Rio de Janeiro has been backed to put on a great Olympics and Paralympics in 2016 by Jacques Rogge (pictured), the President of the International Olympic Committee (IOC), and his predecessor, Juan Antonio Samaranch.Samaranch was a key member of Madrid's unsuccessful bid to host the 2016 Games but has still backed the choice of the Brazilian city to stage the first ever Olympics in South America. Speaking to Brazilian newspaper Terra, Samaranch said: "I have no doubt. "Rio de Janeiro will be excellent, the best Olympic Games. "In 2016, will be the first Olympics held in South America and this should encourage us. "The choice of Rio was a strategic choice for International Olympic Committee and should be a unique opportunity for this great country that is Brazil." Samaranch praised the contribution of Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva and Carlos Nuzman, the President of the Brazilian Olympic Committee, for Rio's successful bid, where they were the overwhelming choice of the IOC at its Session in Copenhagen on October 2. He said: "The true person responsible for the success of Rio are President Lula, who has led Brazil with great charisma and success, and the chairman [sic] of BOC and IOC member, Carlos Nuzman, the real driving force behind the bid. "The success Rio 2016 is due to the talent and the work of these two great leaders." Rogge, meanwhile, told the Spanish newspaper El Pais that he had no doubt that Rio would be ready in time for the Games despite the challenges it faces, including having to build many of the facilities from scratch. He told the newspaper: "There are two types of Games, those where everything is in place for several years and those in which everything is done. "In Sydney we had to build much - but the Australians did very well. "In Beijing, the same. "In Athens, we had difficulties but finally accelerated and went very well. "In Salt Lake City and Turin all was ready. "So the IOC is not against a virtual project, even if it involves a little more risk." Rogge believes that the fact Brazil is due to stage the 2014 FIFA World Cup will help ensure everything is in place for the Olympics. He said: "We do not doubt and believe that the 2014 World Cup will greatly assist the project. "We trust the Brazilians because they are developing at an extraordinary rate, the World Bank estimates are that Brazil will be the fifth largest economy [in the world] by 2025. "There will be moments of concern, as with Athens, but they will get everything done." Rogge also said that he believes that Rio hosting the Games will change a city that has been plagued by violence and poverty. He said:" I have told the [Rio] Mayor [Eduardo Paes] and Lula that the success of the Games is not only athletic success but also the social heritage. "We have said very clearly that they must work to improve the social situation. "They have promised and they will." http://www.insidethegames.biz/index.php?op...d=1:latest-news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Nice words, and you'd hardly expect them to say anything different at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Well, Rogge was very hard on Madrid in this interview saying "Madrid needs to know to win and lose", about the comments made by Madrid 2016 bid team. And very hard on the El Pais reporter about the "non-trustable" Brazilian promises. Indeed, it's the name of the article in El Pais "Madrid debería saber ganar y perder". http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/Ma...elpepidep_1/Tes (In Spanish only, but Google Translator is working very well in ENG-SPA translations). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I meant "Madrid should know how to win and lose" - Dannyel-translator is not good as Google one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerioandrade Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Good to know that we (Brazil) were able to transmit confidence to them... but I´m really afraid. The Federal budget for 2010 was voted recently, and those stupid politicians cutted down U$ 400 million from the World Cup infra-structure projects. Nobody knows yet which specific projects that money is related to, but it´s causing some concern by now. Will they do the same in the future with the OG budget ? I hope not. I don´t want to be negative, but that´s a really bad start for our pretentions of hosting those events perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 The best advice would be to start work yesterday. Just do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Good to know that we (Brazil) were able to transmit confidence to them... but I´m really afraid.The Federal budget for 2010 was voted recently, and those stupid politicians cutted down U$ 400 million from the World Cup infra-structure projects. Nobody knows yet which specific projects that money is related to, but it´s causing some concern by now. Will they do the same in the future with the OG budget ? I hope not. I don´t want to be negative, but that´s a really bad start for our pretentions of hosting those events perfectly. The govt can and told that will appeal of this decision, and budget cuts happens all the time in the entire world. Mo, you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I think BOC should stop sending Mr. Nuzman to events all around the world, as well as stop offering and/or taking part in celebrations. IOC has already chosen Rio as the 2016 SOG hosting city. It's time to work. Each day, each week is decisive. Remember Atlanta and Athens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I hope, with 2010 starting Brazilian politicians and others starts to be serious on the events Brazil will host. I think 2010 is a good year to start to build the stadiums for WC and start the schedule and other bureaucracy things for the Olympis. Hope that the 2010 presidential election wont affect the plans. But, as you all know, Brazilians and foreigners, we will have delays, unfortunatelly. Even Rogge predicts this. I get pissed off when it seems that the delay thing is almost cultural in Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas_leobas Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 The Olympics' organization has everything it takes to go smoothly. A really strong committee is being organized, containing members from all governmental levels and connected directly to our federal executive power through the Ministry of sports. Maracanã stadium will have its executive summary released in the next few weeks and we shall expect news about the other venues shortly after the commitee is organized. Everything is going to be ok regardless of the outcome of next year's elections. Brazil fought very hard in order to get the Olympics, we had already failed four times. So no one is taking them for granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I like a interview Nuzman, Rio 2016 Commitee president, made to Lancenet. "We will have some contructions delays, some other delivered before the time schedule... This is part of a big event history. It happened before with other host cities and probably will happen again. The Rio 2016 comittee must be prepared for all of this." "The budget for the 2016 will change. IOC always requires a revision in the project. For example, only now (2009) IOC and London 2012 comittee finished the final plan of construction. If you ask me if I like it, I answer: NO." http://www.lancenet.com.br/olimpiada/notic...jogos-vai-mudar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 But, as you all know, Brazilians and foreigners, we will have delays, unfortunatelly. Even Rogge predicts this. I get pissed off when it seems that the delay thing is almost cultural in Brazil. Brazil has a once in a lifetime opportunity to prove otherwise! A smooth Olympic preparation can change attitudes. I know the Millennium Dome, Scottish Parliament and Wembley Stadium builds wouldn't have projected a huge amount of confidence in the UK's ability to run massive construction projects smoothly, but the Olympic preparations are changing that reputation fast. After from the budget rise in 2007 - and even that isn't as high as predicted, it was revealed last week - everything has gone remarkably smoothly, much to many naysayers' annoyance. If Brazil's preparations go as well as London's have, the perceived "culture" will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Brazil has a once in a lifetime opportunity to prove otherwise! A smooth Olympic preparation can change attitudes.I know the Millennium Dome, Scottish Parliament and Wembley Stadium builds wouldn't have projected a huge amount of confidence in the UK's ability to run massive construction projects smoothly, but the Olympic preparations are changing that reputation fast. After from the budget rise in 2007 - and even that isn't as high as predicted, it was revealed last week - everything has gone remarkably smoothly, much to many naysayers' annoyance. If Brazil's preparations go as well as London's have, the perceived "culture" will change. I'm a positive guy and thinks this time Brazil will act great... Specially because the WC will have some delays and as always the "first world" will make hard criticisms on Brazil, to change this they will do the hell to avoid delays on Olympics... Well, my bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceNarcissus Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Organizers shouldn't be anticipating delays publicly at all at this stage. Rio being the first South American host doesn't somehow allow it to expect anything but perfect organizing. I know it never happens for any city 100% perfectly, but the truth is if you work around delays that haven't yet happened you could face even more unpredictable setbacks to really make a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 The IOC needs to set clear and defined deadlines. The location of venues needs to have a deadline in terms of being finalized, whether its London or Rio. Each venue must have an IOC deadline so that they can be inspected The IOC must also in some cases take a more active role in getting venues started earlier, as early as London 2012. You can't just wait around and then make some noise 1 year before the Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Do you think Sean Goldman will be a good spokesperson for Brazil 2014 and Rio 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Do you think Sean Goldman will be a good spokesperson for Brazil 2014 and Rio 2016? No one in this world should bring this poor boy and the drama he is living to a forum like this. There are limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas_leobas Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Do you think Sean Goldman will be a good spokesperson for Brazil 2014 and Rio 2016? Someone who loves Brazil and left the country against his will would indeed be a great for both events some years from now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I love your avatar lucas! That was against England wasn't it? EDIT: just found it on YouTube Fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas_leobas Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I love your avatar lucas! That was against England wasn't it? EDIT: just found it on YouTube Fantastic! My favourite showboater of all time, Rob. Higuita is so amazing, you just can't outplay him. Unless you're from Cameroon and it's 1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Do you think Sean Goldman will be a good spokesperson for Brazil 2014 and Rio 2016? You passed the limits, Baron. Leave this kid out of this conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Mata Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Sean Goldman shall play an importante role during the handover. Got it? Handover? HAHA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Victor, this boy (that I always think should stay with his biological father) is the biggest loser on this case. The Brazilian family and also Mr. Goldman fought and the poor boy suffered ALL the consequences of that. We should respect him a little, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Mata Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Dannyel, I stated my opinion on this case (and got bashed) in the thread "What's wrong with the Brazilian courts". Let's cut the drama around that brat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Agreed. But I didn't like the midia show/circus both families made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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