Rob2012 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 New White Hart Lane No renders as such but a plan for the development of the new stadium has been outlined: PHASE 1 New stadium build commences to the North of the existing stadium. The existing stadium remains in use at full capacity. PHASE 2 Out of season, the North Stand of the existing stadium is demolished and the new pitch is laid. PHASE 3 The partially completed new stadium is in use for one season with a capacity in excess of the current ground. The remainder of the existing stadium is demolished. PHASE 4 Out of season the remainder of the new stadium is completed, ready for the start of the following season. PDF of the club's early plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Rafa Architects got snubbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Why do those images remind me of the Emirates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 England ist OK for the organization FIFA WM Cup in football, but not in 2018 given that the Summer Olympics in London 2012.First 200 countries in the world to give in less than six years of organizing two largest sports competition, only one state that's absurd, no matter how zvala.To it's the same as the grant Rio de Janeiro organization Summer Olympic Games in 2020, which means in less than six years after FIFA WORLD CUP 2014 in football Brasil.Zato in Holland and Belgium have a really historical opportunity to obtain CUP FIFA WM 2018 in football, for the next FIFA Cup in Europe, then reservations for England in 2030. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 The USA, Mexico and Germany have done both in a short period. A complete non-issue. We have one of the top three leagues in the world, England has one of the biggest followings at every international tournament, the game was invented here, we haven't hosted for over 40 years and the FA put a lot of money towards development in world football. Saying there's 200 countries in the world is all very well but only about a tenth of those could host a world cup. Your argument doesn't stand up. Next..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim jones Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 The USA, Mexico and Germany have done both in a short period. A complete non-issue. We have one of the top three leagues in the world, England has one of the biggest followings at every international tournament, the game was invented here, we haven't hosted for over 40 years and the FA put a lot of money towards development in world football. Saying there's 200 countries in the world is all very well but only about a tenth of those could host a world cup.Your argument doesn't stand up. Next..... I agree with you that England or a UK hosting is due for the World Cup but also think of how long the world cup was going before England Actually hosted ! 36 years in total. Uruguay and Brazil hosted before England and with 2014 Brazil will host a second time before England hosts a second time. I just wonder if England is such a strong place for the Game. As to countries that can host well that list is growing and not decreasing. Russia and China I would count in the mix. I would not doubt you will see Australia and India at some point host along with a Morocco, Egypt or a Gulf State. Places like Switzerland , Sweden and Chile I can't see hosting again . Argentina would be doubtful for a while. When Birmingham England is dependent on a Super Casino License for a new stadium to better their chances of hosting a 2018 World cup Group then it really goes to show the state of Stadiums in England. Not even the Local Birmingham Officials are thinking Villa Park for WC 2018. Jim jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 England had a historical chance to get FIFA WORLD CUP 2006 in football, but Germany for milimetar.Nakon large-scale sports events as Olympic Games in 2012 would be too much to the same country in the short term gain and WM organization in football 2018.All it is possible in life, especially in sport, one man, a decision like 100 years of Brazil soccer federation and WM in Brazil so 2014.Meyby be similar with the English after 1966-2018, but these are apsurdne decision and people should be deeper ramisljaju that and get the reflection in football WM those countries that are not organized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 When Birmingham England is dependent on a Super Casino License for a new stadium to better their chances of hosting a 2018 World cup Group then it really goes to show the state of Stadiums in England. What a stupid argument Jimmy. I can play this game as well, look: When NYC's stadium project falls through at the last minute for their 2012 Olympic bid then it really goes to show the state of stadiums in the US. Probably only the US and Germany - and possibly Spain - can better our football stadiums overall. Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City, Newcastle, Sunderland, Liverpool, Everton and Chelsea already have stadiums capable of hosting world cup games. Villa Park needs a bit of a spruce-up but isn't a write-off as you suggest and would easily be able to host a couple of world cup games if the Birmingham project doesn't take place. Ditto Elland Road and Hillsborough. Derby's stadium is very likely to be upgraded in the next few years and that will meet WC requirements and Sheff Utd are looking to expand soon meaning Brammel Lane will have the capacity to host. And to come: Spurs will have a new stadium before 2018 (60,000) Liverpool will have a new stadium before 2018 (75,000) Everton will have a new before 2018 (55,000) Portsmouth will have a new before 2018 (35,000 expandable to 40,000) Chelsea will probably have a new stadium before 2018 (60,000+) West Ham are more than likely to have a new stadium before 2018 (50,000+) A new stadium in Bristol is also a possibility. Wembley (90,000) is one of the greatest new stadiums in the world and would be a beautiful venue for the final. Arsenal will likely expand to 70,000+ before 2018, especially if a World Cup is on its way. Man Utd will almost certainly go above 80,000 in that time. Newcastle United will almost certainly go above 60,000 in that time. I can't see the richest club in world football, Man City, staying at 48,000 for long either. The state of our stadiums is pretty-damn good; of our rivals only the US would have less work to do (although I believe their focus is on 2022 rather than 2018). You come across as someone who really doesn't know his subject. It's as if you're writing from your bedroom on the other side of the world and haven't been to any of these stadiums.....wait, hold on a minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Numpty sums him up and the latest nonsense about Birmingham is just another laughable example of his clueless drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 News coming out of my adopted home county today that Leeds United have announced plans for a redevelopment of Elland Road. No planned increase in the ground capacity from the current 40,000 at the moment but the club say there may well be for the bid, which would be no bad thing. East Stand Re-Development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 West Ham are more than likely to have a new stadium before 2018 (50,000+) Apparently, an expansion of Upton Park is now more likely. At least that was Mihir Bose's latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Chelsea chief executive Peter Kenyon has said today on Sky Sports that he expects they will staying at Stamford Bridge for the foreseeable future. He says that, if they do decide to move to a new stadium in the longer term, he doesn't expect anything will happen for a good five years. Take that at face value and that's one option for a second London stadium ruled out, I'd have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Emirates and Wembley would be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Indeed it would. But you also have to consider Tottenham's new stadium and if there is any change in the plans for the Olympic Stadium. Certainly the Emirates would be favourite to be London's second stadium but I wouldn't say it was entirely cut and dried yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Not cut and dry by any means: Club reveals first images of proposed new stadium The Club today revealed the first images of the Club's proposed new stadium design, part of the Northumberland Development Project. Designs for the new home of the Club have been developed by KSS, leaders in stadia design. Commenting on the release of the images, Club Chairman Daniel Levy said: "The brief I gave the architects was to design an iconic stadium that would be one of the best in Europe. My over-riding priority is to re-create the terrific atmosphere we have at the current stadium, within a world class stadium that offers state-of -the-art facilities. "This means designing a stadium which has supporters as close as possible to the field of play and not simply looking to chase headline capacity. Our fans will find themselves closer to the pitch than at any other comparable stadium in the UK. This design puts fan experience first. "In addition to the stadium, we are designing great facilities within the overall masterplan that will add positively to the local environment and locality, components that can play a role in the regeneration of the wider area." David Keirle, Chairman of KSS, outlined the strategy behind the stadium design: "The key driver has been to deliver the best possible fan experience on all levels. "The visuals of the new stadium show that it's really seen as a building which responds to the brand, which we see as representing style and flowing lines of football. "We have spent a great deal of time looking at different roof formations. The roof has been designed to focus the noise back onto the crowd and onto the pitch. All seating is enclosed, there are no open corners, so everything is focused back onto the pitch and the acoustics will maximise the impact of the vocal support from fans. The stadium will have a roof that allows us to have four large screens up in the top corners, which means every spectator will be able to see a whole host of information. "The plans we have produced will result in close proximity for the fans to the pitch, we are going to be metres closer than other stadiums of comparable size. We are fine tuning the plans and these will ultimately determine the final capacity." The new stadium will also benefit from a Club museum, shops and homes, new facilities for the Tottenham Hotspur Foundation and important public space. The plans will enable the team to remain at the current site throughout construction. Daniel Levy added: "Development projects on this scale take a long time from the initial starting point to final completion. Any new stadia we have seen recently would have been designed at least eight to ten years ago. We are designing for our future and this stadium design has been described as the first of the next generation of stadia. "This development is more than just somewhere where the team can play football. The Northumberland Development Project will deliver substantial investment for the future of the Borough and will benefit the community. "It's about leaving a legacy for this great Club and, once delivered, I hope all our fans around the world will be very proud." http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/artic...dium151208.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rob2012 Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 From the official site: "We've looked at is creating a very tight wrap-around bowl that gives the opportunity for different personalities because each of the upper tiers will be distinct and separate. So you will actually get the tight feel of a bowl, but also the feeling that each stand has it's own personality." "The one thing you'll notice is that, in some places, we're four and a half metres closer to the pitch than at most other stadia." Also said on Spurs TV that the roof won't overhang like at the Emirates, so everyone will be able to see everyone else in the stadium. Can't wait to see inside renders!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Wow. Another tightly-surrounded stadium. I reallly don't see how England's bid can be credible if there are no open spaces for sponsors', hospitality tents and the like around them?? I mean, those are de rigeur requirements of a major global event??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Having crowds who understand football as a game played with a round ball is also de rigeur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 On Baron's point. Around the stadium space is needed: Using the 45,000 seat Mbombela stadium as an example. It will only host 4 First Round matches. Hospitality 17,900 sqm Hospitality parking 500 cars, 95 buses Police and medical 5000sqm Media Parking 180 spaces Broadcast Parking 130 spaces Media Centre 4500sqm Broadcast Centre 3700sqm VIP Parking 20 buses, 200 cars FIFA partner parking 50 cars Commercial Display parking 50 cars Commercial Display 9700sqm Volunteers 3300sqm Hospitality 130 cars Disabled parking 100 cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Media will hardly be a problem considering our Premier League matches are broadcast to the world weekly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Yip but that doesn't mean you don't need a media centre or media compound if one large enough is not provided within the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 If FIFA want England to host some accommodation will be reached, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Maybe they'll knock down some factories and houses near the venues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 why didnt they choose a larger site adjacent to the atlantic ocean, with the backdrop of a mountain and city centre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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