baron-pierreIV Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 So far, we know: Olympics - 200+ nations All-Africa Games - 50 or 52 (est.) IberoAmericana Games - 26 or 27 nations Asian Games - 40 or so? PanAmerican Games - 36 or so (est.) Commonwealth Games -??? So, who can come up with ACCURATE figures? And these are multi-discipline Games (not World Championships or the World Cup). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eruedan Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Commonwealth Games has 72 (might be 71 now that Zimbabwe has buggered off). What about the Winter Olympics - thats about 80 odd isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woohoo Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Commonwealth Games has 72 (might be 71 now that Zimbabwe has buggered off).What about the Winter Olympics - thats about 80 odd isn't it? Zimbabwe hasn't offcially left the Commonwealth Games Association, its membership still stands. It's been suspended from CHOGHAM, a different organisation. It's a real pity Hong Kong left just before KL98. It would be good if China had some part in re-establishing a Chinese Hong Kong team, but its doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Got to be the Winter Olympics surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Asia has 47 countries so i am guessing all of them go to the Asian Games The Pan Ams have 35 countries African would have 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 OK, so here are the results (and there will always be variances of 1 or 2, e.g. Israel is technically Asia but in included in the European grouping, for obvious reasons): 1. Biggest - Summer Olympics (I don't really count the WInter Games because that's just like a spin-off of SOG) - 202, as of last count 2. Commonwealth - (72) -give or take 1 or 2 3. All Africa Games - 53 4. Asian Games - (47) or 46 minus Israel 5. PanAmerican Games - 35 6. IberoAmerican Games - 26 or 27 no Francophone (or former French Empire) Games -?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyler Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 I might be wrong but I think I read somewhere that the Special Olympics had like 150 nations compete in the last ones in Dublin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripley Posted August 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Are we taling just multi sport events? If so then the medeteranian Games should be included...and the Universiade. I suspect the Universiade is the 2nd biggest in terms of no. of participating countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekky Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Jeux de la Francophonie : 56 nations http://jeux.francophonie.org/country_index.jsp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Ripley wrote:If so then the medeteranian Games should be included...and the Universiade. I suspect the Universiade is the 2nd biggest in terms of no. of participating countries. Very good, Ripley. Yes, these are multi-discipline Games. Can you find # of countries (approximately is good enuf since they chagne every year) for these? And by the Universiade, you mean the World University Games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Yes Ripley, very good. This topic has re-appeared on several occasions. The World University Games are the next largest games in terms of number of nations represented. See FISU Statistics page Here are the largest games: (Source Encyclopedia of International Games, up to 2000) Federations and organizing bodies for figures after 2000. Listed: Games, city, nation, year ,# of nations represented. Olympic Games, Sydney, Australia, 2000, 199 Olympic Games, Atlanta, USA, 1996, 197 World University Games, Daegu, Korea, 2003, 174 Olympic Games, Barcelona, Spain, 1992, 172 Special Olympics World Summer Games, Dublin, Ireland, 2003, 166 World University Games, Beijing, China, 2001, 165 World University Games, Fukuoka, Japan, 1995, 162 Olympic Games, Seoul, South Korea, 1988, 160 Special Olympics World Summer Games, Raleigh-Durham, USA, 1999, 147 World Scholar Athlete Games, Newport, RI, USA, 1997, 147 Olympic Games, Los Angeles, USA, 1984, 141 Special Olympics World Summer Games, New Haven, USA, 1995, 140 World Youth Games, Moscow, Russia, 1998, 130 World University Games, Sicily, Italy, 1997, 124 Olympic Games, Munich, Germany, 1972, 122 World University Games, Zagreb, Yugoslavia, 1987, 122 World University Games, Palma de Mallorca, Spain, 1999, 122 Paralympic Games, Sydney, Australia, 2000, 122 Paralympic Games, Atlanta, USA, 1996, 120 World University Games, Buffalo, USA, 1993, 117 Olympic Games, Mexico City, Mexico, 1968, 112 World Scholar Athlete Games, Newport, RI, USA, 1993, 109 World University Games, Kobe, Japan, 1985, 106 World Masters Games, Portland, USA, 1998, 102 World University Games, Sheffield, England, 1991, 101 Special Olympics World Summer Games, Minneapolis, USA, 1991, 100 The Mediterranean games are quite small in terms of number of nations. Only 23 nations competed in 2001, the largest number ever to have been at those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 So far, we know:Olympics - 200+ nations All-Africa Games - 50 or 52 (est.) IberoAmericana Games - 26 or 27 nations Asian Games - 40 or so? PanAmerican Games - 36 or so (est.) Commonwealth Games -??? So, who can come up with ACCURATE figures? And these are multi-discipline Games (not World Championships or the World Cup). btw, the Ibero-American games, (unless someone has different information) have always been a track and field/athletics only competition. The 11th edition just finished last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 The participation records for the other games mentioned: African Games 53 nations in 2003 Asian Games 44 nations in 2003 Pan American Games 42 nations in both 1995 and 1999 (no figure for 2003) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 OK, bean-counters, it looks like here is our joint compilation so far: 1. Summer Olympics - 202 member nations, as of last count; (Winter - 80 nations, Salt Lake) 2. Universiade (or WUG) - 174 nations, last attendance 3. Special Olympics - 166 4. Commonwealth Games - (72) -give or take 1 or 2 5. Jeux de la Franocphonie - 56 pays 6. All-Africa Games - 53 7. Asian Games - (47) or 46 minus Israel 8. PanAmerican Games - 42 (regional, rather than continental - Mediterranean Games - 23. Thanks to one and all's contributions!! Eat your heart out, David Wallachinsky!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjmac Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 I guess we could have considered the "now gone" Goodwill Games. But alas...they are now gone, and should be. They really didn't serve any purpose. I am also sure that there are some organizations that run their World Championships that include almost every country as well. These are not multi-sport events but still get alot of interest, participation and viewing (Soccer, track and field, etc.) What about the Gay Games? Participation is high, but not as many countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Gay Games Sydney 2002 had approx 11,000 participants (more than the Olympics!), representing about 70 countries (sorry these are approximate _ the Sydney 2002 website's closed now, and these are the best figures that the Gay Games Federation website gives). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 I guess we could have considered the "now gone" Goodwill Games. But alas...they are now gone, and should be. They really didn't serve any purpose.I am also sure that there are some organizations that run their World Championships that include almost every country as well. These are not multi-sport events but still get alot of interest, participation and viewing (Soccer, track and field, etc.) What about the Gay Games? Participation is high, but not as many countries. I think the people of Moscow, Seattle, St. Petersburg and New York, would disagree. Three of those four cities have used their experiences with the Goodwill Games to reason in part for Olympic bids. Ted Turner would most certainly disagree, saying that the games helped bring a close to the Cold War. The Goodwill Games got smaller as time went on, the largest in terms of participating nations was the first, in Moscow in 1986, with 79 nations. (from Encyclopedia of International Games) Prior to the 2002 Gay Games in Sydney, organizers said that 67 nations had registered. Organization was pretty chaotic for those games, they almost didn't come off because of financial difficulties. I don't know if they ever published a final figure, so 70 as mentioned above, is probably an accurate enough estimate for the purposes of this discussion. The Francophone Games, the site referenced http://jeux.francophonie.org/country_index.jsp indicates that there are 56 nations in the "communauté solidaire", but the line above states that only 39 nations had registered for the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjmac Posted August 15, 2004 Report Share Posted August 15, 2004 I reply again. The Goodwill Games really served NO purpose. Ted Turner??? Who cares!!!! There are people with money all over the world that do "foolish" things with it. Anyone that thinks that having the Goodwill Games ended the "Cold War" is missing something upstairs!!!! The Berlin Wall did not come down because of the Goodwill Games. Democracy did not happen in Eastern Europe because of the GG. Nor did the former Soviet Union break up because of the GG. The GG would not have been in the list for the governments of those countries to return or establish a democracy. "Gee.... Let's all turn around our way of life because of the GG" Get Real!!! There are still countries that favor communism, dictatorships and fascist rule. I guess we should return to the GG so that we can change their way of thinking too. I am sure that those countries would jump right on board. The GG were just another attempt to make money!!!(although, not a bad idea at their inception). When they didn't turn a profit... or in this case, when they turned a significant loss... they were shut down. Welcome to democracy. There's a great message to send. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imagineer Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Ted Turner would most certainly disagree, saying that the games helped bring a close to the Cold War. Sure, but Turner has an enormous ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Ted Turner would most certainly disagree, saying that the games helped bring a close to the Cold War. Sure, but Turner has an enormous ego. Yeah. Let's sell his share to the TW empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 I reply again. The Goodwill Games really served NO purpose.Ted Turner??? Who cares!!!! There are people with money all over the world that do "foolish" things with it. Anyone that thinks that having the Goodwill Games ended the "Cold War" is missing something upstairs!!!! The Berlin Wall did not come down because of the Goodwill Games. Democracy did not happen in Eastern Europe because of the GG. Nor did the former Soviet Union break up because of the GG. The GG would not have been in the list for the governments of those countries to return or establish a democracy. "Gee.... Let's all turn around our way of life because of the GG" Get Real!!! There are still countries that favor communism, dictatorships and fascist rule. I guess we should return to the GG so that we can change their way of thinking too. I am sure that those countries would jump right on board. The GG were just another attempt to make money!!!(although, not a bad idea at their inception). When they didn't turn a profit... or in this case, when they turned a significant loss... they were shut down. Welcome to democracy. There's a great message to send. Clearly, you have not studied your Goodwill Games history, nor are you familiar with either the written or spoken words of Ted Turner relating to the Goodwill Games financing or purpose. To think that Ted Turner began the games to turn a profit, is to be wholly ignorant of the history of the games. The written literature, which you clearly have not been exposed to, makes an emphatic opposite statement to this assertion. One can dispute the effect of the Goodwill Games, I certainly do. Gorbachev, Reagan, the Pope, Ted Turner with his Games, all claim or claimed that they had more to do with the fall of the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Union than they actually did. I'm not claiming the Goodwill Games did what Ted Turner says they did. I'm stating that Turner would emphatically disagree with you on the purpose of the Goodwill Games, that you claim had no purpose at all. As far as the significance of the Goodwill Games, however large or small, world records were set, several significant athletes had their first international experiences at the Goodwill Games, long-lasting and still ongoing friendships developed between citizens of the United States and the Soviet Union. Business, art and scientific contacts were established between participating cities, and citizens from the US and Soviet Union were allowed to travel to places that had otherwise been forbidden. Your disagreement is certainly not with me, but with the statements made by Mr. Turner before during and after the the Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 OK, this would seem to be our latest tally based on last set of extant Games, and no. of participating/recognized countries. Does anyone know the Paralympics' attendance? 1. Summer Olympics - 202 member nations, as of last count; (Winter - 80 nations, Salt Lake) 2. Universiade (or WUG) - 174 nations, last attendance 3. Special Olympics - 166 4. the Paralympics - ??? 5. Commonwealth Games - (72) -give or take 1 or 2 6. Gay Games (70 - per Sydney attendance) 7. Jeux de la Francophonie - 56 pays 8. All-Africa Games - 53 9. Asian Games - (47; or 46 minus Israel) 10. PanAmerican Games - 42 The Goodwill Games are defunct, that is why I am not including them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerioandrade Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 OK, this would seem to be our latest tally based on last set of extant Games, and no. of participating/recognized countries. Does anyone know the Paralympics' attendance? 1. Summer Olympics - 202 member nations, as of last count; (Winter - 80 nations, Salt Lake) 2. Universiade (or WUG) - 174 nations, last attendance 3. Special Olympics - 166 4. the Paralympics - ??? 5. Commonwealth Games - (72) -give or take 1 or 2 6. Gay Games (70 - per Sydney attendance) 7. Jeux de la Francophonie - 56 pays 8. All-Africa Games - 53 9. Asian Games - (47; or 46 minus Israel) 10. PanAmerican Games - 42 The Goodwill Games are defunct, that is why I am not including them here. Shouldn't we add to that list the Fifa's World Cup (around 170 nations, counting from the regional qualifiers) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champion Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 OK, this would seem to be our latest tally based on last set of extant Games, and no. of participating/recognized countries. Does anyone know the Paralympics' attendance? 1. Summer Olympics - 202 member nations, as of last count; (Winter - 80 nations, Salt Lake) 2. Universiade (or WUG) - 174 nations, last attendance 3. Special Olympics - 166 4. the Paralympics - ??? 5. Commonwealth Games - (72) -give or take 1 or 2 6. Gay Games (70 - per Sydney attendance) 7. Jeux de la Francophonie - 56 pays 8. All-Africa Games - 53 9. Asian Games - (47; or 46 minus Israel) 10. PanAmerican Games - 42 The Goodwill Games are defunct, that is why I am not including them here. Data from my original post included Paralympic Games figures: with Athens added: Listed: Games, city, nation, year ,# of nations represented. Olympic Games, Athens, Greece, 2004, 202 Olympic Games, Sydney, Australia, 2000, 199 Olympic Games, Atlanta, USA, 1996, 197 World University Games, Daegu, Korea, 2003, 174 Olympic Games, Barcelona, Spain, 1992, 172 Special Olympics World Summer Games, Dublin, Ireland, 2003, 166 World University Games, Beijing, China, 2001, 165 World University Games, Fukuoka, Japan, 1995, 162 Olympic Games, Seoul, South Korea, 1988, 160 Special Olympics World Summer Games, Raleigh-Durham, USA, 1999, 147 World Scholar Athlete Games, Newport, RI, USA, 1997, 147 Olympic Games, Los Angeles, USA, 1984, 141 Special Olympics World Summer Games, New Haven, USA, 1995, 140 World Youth Games, Moscow, Russia, 1998, 130 World University Games, Sicily, Italy, 1997, 124 Olympic Games, Munich, Germany, 1972, 122 World University Games, Zagreb, Yugoslavia, 1987, 122 World University Games, Palma de Mallorca, Spain, 1999, 122 Paralympic Games, Sydney, Australia, 2000, 122 Paralympic Games, Atlanta, USA, 1996, 120 World University Games, Buffalo, USA, 1993, 117 Olympic Games, Mexico City, Mexico, 1968, 112 World Scholar Athlete Games, Newport, RI, USA, 1993, 109 World University Games, Kobe, Japan, 1985, 106 World Masters Games, Portland, USA, 1998, 102 World University Games, Sheffield, England, 1991, 101 Special Olympics World Summer Games, Minneapolis, USA, 1991, 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Rogelioandrade asked: Shouldn't we add to that list the Fifa's World Cup (around 170 nations, counting from the regional qualifiers) ? No, this list is for multi-sport international festivals at the adult level. FIFA's World Cup is one sport. Thanks, Champion, missed those stats. My eyes tend to glaze over long, long posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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