cubebox Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 I don't know who to pick between Santiago & Lima. Maybe if there were bidbooks out there it would help. I know there were bidbooks available for the 2015 race, but seemingly not for 2019. Maybe this can help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb6DnWsjXnA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger87 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 After checking both bids, my preference is still with Santiago. The project is flawless and while Peru could add history, the Chileans have an interesting culture. Also, with Buenos Aires hosting the Youth Olympic Games, Chile could use this experience as a potential bid at the Summer Olympic. IMO, Chile is the only viable country with the potential and resources after the two giants of South America -Brazil and Argentina-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Hello, new argentine member here First of all, sorry for our joke bid. It was a very bad gamble from this idiots of COA. Second, what's the deal with this guy Dannyel?, he keeps bashing Argentina in every single comment I have read, it's like he has an obsession with us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzi Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Welcome LDOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacholympic Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 I'm eating my nails.... I'm eager to know the winner city. Honestly, I think this is the greater chance Chile has to become the Pan Am host for the first time... Really, It's now or never... Gosh! We have 70% of venues ready!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb6DnWsjXnA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb6DnWsjXnA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Chile should win this hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Santiago it is...just seen Lima's logo...WTFOMGLOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 I feel as if Lima has the backing, but Santiago will stage the better games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Can someone translate this: http://www.latercera.com/noticia/deportes/2013/09/656-544772-9-los-nuevos-calculos-de-chile-para-los-juegos-panamericanos-de-2019.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Can someone translate this: http://www.latercera.com/noticia/deportes/2013/09/656-544772-9-los-nuevos-calculos-de-chile-para-los-juegos-panamericanos-de-2019.shtml it basically says they think that they have about 22 votes in the bag, 15% of the voters are undecided yet and that Ciudad Bolívar seems to be making a comeback in the last days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRATK Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 I found this post in a newspaper from San Luis, Argentina. It is a bit old (July) and It focuses on the chances of La Punta.According to a poll done to PASO members, 46.79% would vote for Santiago, 33.28% for Lima, Bolívar with a 13,81 % and La Punta only with a 6,12%.A Peruvian poll have similar results: Santiago 46.67%, Lima 33.33%, Bolívar 13.33% y La Punta 6.67%.It's not sure that Santiago will win, but at least it backs the idea of Santiago and Lima as frontrunners (in line with La Tercera publication)http://lagaceta-digital.com.ar/tempor/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8133:panamericanos-2019-encuesta-deja-mal-posicionada-a-la-punta&catid=37:notaprincipal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 ATR Reports that all the cities besides Lima want to host in September/October. I don't think that will help them win votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacholympic Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Limas has just launched some promo videos for Pan 2019 bid Santiago has a strong oponent... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDLcI7ey574 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alc6c5EUB6g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwinGmzF Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I found something interesting... The Ciudad Bolivar's Project... http://www.bolivarpanamericano.com.ve/proyecto.php Is an interesting project, and could easily be second... Because Santiago is First. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger87 Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I found this post in a newspaper from San Luis, Argentina. It is a bit old (July) and It focuses on the chances of La Punta. According to a poll done to PASO members, 46.79% would vote for Santiago, 33.28% for Lima, Bolívar with a 13,81 % and La Punta only with a 6,12%. A Peruvian poll have similar results: Santiago 46.67%, Lima 33.33%, Bolívar 13.33% y La Punta 6.67%. It's not sure that Santiago will win, but at least it backs the idea of Santiago and Lima as frontrunners (in line with La Tercera publication) http://lagaceta-digital.com.ar/tempor/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8133:panamericanos-2019-encuesta-deja-mal-posicionada-a-la-punta&catid=37:notaprincipal Nothing surprising for this. Rosario was a better bid for Argentina. I hope this became real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubebox Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 This is serious: the Venezuelan sports minister saying that Lima would be buying votes. (Spanish) http://rbb.cl/7ayt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Mata Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Ciudad Bolivar is out now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwinGmzF Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Ciudad Bolivar's Promo Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGwtbOBPJr0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Ooh eck. Does the minister have any evidence or is she just trying to weaken a rival? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubebox Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Ooh eck. Does the minister have any evidence or is she just trying to weaken a rival? I think it is serious. Eduardo Alvarez, president of the venezuelan NOC said that Peru is offering training scholarships for US$100,000, 4 touristic programs and a laptop for every member of the NOC that vote for them. Pretty serious. http://www.latercera.com/noticia/deportes/2013/10/656-545410-9-juegos-panamericanos-ciudad-bolivar-acusa-a-lima-de-comprar-votos.shtml (spanish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger87 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Hmm, interesting. Taking a fight against the two other bigger contenders -Ciudad olivar and Lima- could be a bonus to Santiago victory at the end. Chile only needs to sell their bid and stay cautelous in this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think it is serious. Eduardo Alvarez, president of the venezuelan NOC said that Peru is offering training scholarships for US$100,000, 4 touristic programs and a laptop for every member of the NOC that vote for them. Pretty serious. http://www.latercera.com/noticia/deportes/2013/10/656-545410-9-juegos-panamericanos-ciudad-bolivar-acusa-a-lima-de-comprar-votos.shtml (spanish) Sorry, from what I'm able to understand from the article this doesn't seem to be a "bribes", but kind of official documented offerings? Did I understand well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubebox Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Sorry, from what I'm able to understand from the article this doesn't seem to be a "bribes", but kind of official documented offerings? Did I understand well? First of all, I said it wrong. Venezuelan NOC is upset with the Peruvian delegation attitude, saying that they are not playing fair, AND, by the other hand, there's a document from other PASO member, detailing things that Lima is offering. The point is that the Venezuelan delegation is very upset with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Canada offered grants to train as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubebox Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Then I guess they're just trying to get into the second ballot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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