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PS: sometimes I feel sorry for you danny... living in a state that you hate and having a job where everyone talks **** about your homeland hehehe

Thats why sometimes you look a bit insecure about some subjects here... hehehe

Indy is a S H I T event. Period. except the 500 mile from Indianapolis, the rest of the races aren't even broadcast by ESPN 12

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PS: sometimes I feel sorry for you danny... living in a state that you hate and having a job where everyone talks **** about your homeland hehehe

Thats why sometimes you look a bit insecure about some subjects here... hehehe

Indy is a S H I T event. Period. except the 500 mile from Indianapolis, the rest of the races aren't even broadcast by ESPN 12

I agree with you in every single comment you made about Indy.

Catra, my personal life is not in discussion here, but as you, I want to talk about some things:

I'd like to say, my whole father family is from Sao Paulo, my wife is from Sao Paulo, my best friends are paulistas (well, from Santos) and I TOLD IT HERE SEVERAL TIMES: I have a HATE AND LOVE relationship with this state - WHICH MEANS THERE ARE THINGS I LIKE AND OTHERS I DISLIKE. Can you guys understand that?????

And indeed I know some cariocas that are complaining about the Olympics. I told it here once: Not all paulistas are angry and not all cariocas are happy.

But of course, most of cariocas are still pride and many paulistas are jeaously.

You, Catra, is a good member here, while don't get into personal subjects. I like most of your comments, but every single time you will talk about other members, we have a lot of s***.

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20 million just to have the right to host it... Dunno how many millions more to make it happen...

Well, if it's more than USD 20 million, I agree it will be too much money invested for little benefits... Since Indy will bot bring lots of tourists to city or make some major international publicity...

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I agree with you in every single comment you made about Indy.

Catra, my personal life is not in discussion here, but as you, I want to talk about some things:

I'd like to say, my whole father family is from Sao Paulo, my wife is from Sao Paulo, my best friends are paulistas (well, from Santos) and I TOLD IT HERE SEVERAL TIMES: I have a HATE AND LOVE relationship with this state - WHICH MEANS THERE ARE THINGS I LIKE AND OTHERS I DISLIKE. Can you guys understand that?????

And indeed I know some cariocas that are complaining about the Olympics. I told it here once: Not all paulistas are angry and not all cariocas are happy.

But of course, most of cariocas are still pride and many paulistas are jeaously.

You, Catra, is a good member here, while don't get into personal subjects. I like most of your comments, but every single time you will talk about other members, we have a lot of s***.

I totally agree with you but when I post and explain how indy is a **** event and the next post is just: "haha sabia q vc ia falar isso" then, if you don't explain why you disagree with me, (and you didn't explain) it makes me answer in the same way... That leads to a debate about us instead a debate about the subject of the thread: indy in brazil/rio = is it worth the price?

IMHO its not. It's a shitty event nowadays...

When Rio had the CART it was totally worth it.. At the time CART was almost rivaling F-1 internationally. The races and the championship were wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more fun than the boring races in F-1... every season only two teams and two pilots could win a race... It was boring like hell (and still is today because of the circuits who difficult the 'take overs'.

Back in the day CART was doing really good in the US and internationally. (It was before NASCAR exploded in popularity) ESPN was showing all the races live, and it had a lot of Teams that could win any race, etc... so most of the races were pure entertainment

FYI, SBT used to broadcast it at 11 pm in the sunday and a lot of times it would lead the ratings in Brazilian TV. It was really popular in Japan too and at other places...

I remember that the City of Rio and the organizers did a GREAT job at promoting the Rio200

It was just like a smaller Indy500. We even had some jets flying above Jacarepagua and the traditional: "Gentleman, START YOUR ENGINESSSS" (HEHE fico até arrepiado :D)

It was really a great event back in the day...

UNFORTUNATELY THE RETARD TONY GEORGE WAS TOO GREEDY AND DECIDED TO FIGHT FOR THE CONTROL OF CART ant it split up.

CART = all the best pilots / teams and 99% of the traditional races.

IRL = Indy500 miles who was bigger then the championship itself + some Oval Races...

IRL was always a **** business and wasn't designed to make money. It was always Indy500 money financing the rest of the races...Tony George WASTED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS from his family business just to keep it running until CART couldn't compete anymore and they ended up together...

"mas o estrago já tinha sido feito hehe". The "formulas" races lost all the popularity they had to Stock Car (NASCAR) races. and F-1 just killed it internationally...

Anyway, next year it will be the first year of IRL without IMS/Tony George money...

I really doubt that it will become popular again...

PS: The original idea was to bring the race to Recife because Luciano do Valle (a corrupt motherfvcker) wanted to "mamar nas tetas do governo de pernambuco" like he always did. It was like: "hey Governor, do the race and you'll have hours of free propaganda during soccer games, volleyball games, I wont forget to say how good a politician you're and how beauty is your state"

But it backfired so I heard from Téo José that some were discussing an event here again but in another city... and It was 99% secured to be in Ribeirão Preto (because of sugar cane plantations there / etanol - the combustible that IRL uses). So I stopped reading about it until you created this thread here.

I didn't even knew that Rio or Salvador were interested on it.

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I remeber those times.. I loved to watch Indy in SBT, specially because Brazilians were winning meanwhile we had Rubens Barrichello and his excuses on Formula 1...

Loved to see many cars with Brazilian sponsors and go on...

But after the separation... Cart and IRL things got too boring and I remember 1999-2006, 2007 when I was no-motorsport addicted.

About 2010 racing, it's completely stupid what Indy are doing... Announces a race in Brazil, but no host city or speedway for it...

Probably they thought Brazilian cities would fight 'til the death because of the race... Salvador already given up, Rio mayor said Indy is asking too much money and no more news about Ribeirao Preto.

About the early announcement, I think IRL wanted to get a little publicity on Olympic Games... What do you think?

PS: About my comment on Salvador and you, sorry. It was useless. (Você saber, esses idiotas me tiram do sério, aí viro metralhadora giratória).

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About sponsor on cars, Button won the F1 Championship with lots of Brazilian sponsor in his car... Itaipava beer, TNT energy drink, Banco do Brasil, Mapfre Assurance (Spanish, but the ad was paied by Brazilian subsidiary).

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But of course,(...) many paulistas are jeaously.

I still disagree. I havent found yet, around me, a paulista claiming about the OG in Rio. And I can tell you that I know a lot of people from differente regions of this city.

I still think these paulistas tend to be around you, like bees around a honeycomb..... :P:P

Ok. Forget it. That was a bad joke.

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About your "mate", there are silly people everywhere, indeed, some from Rio de Janeiro (Do you know Cauê?)

Rio is the iconic city of Brazil. Sao Paulo is the financial-money center and Brasilia the political one... Period. I'm not silly to say it otherwise.

No doubts Rio is the center of spotlight now, and it'll be for the next 7 years... And with this, we will listen a lot of bullshit about Rio AND BRAZIL.

I agree with you about int'l media commenting on Rio crime wave. If Rio lost the games, the demand for this news would be smaller. No doubts too.

BTW, everything that happens in Rio is bigger for the media than Sao Paulo, for example, since Rio is the iconic city of Brazil. Period.

We will face a lot of criticism 'til 2007 and we (Brazil) are not used to this new scale of criticism. It'll be hard to get use to it, since now we're in the hurricane's eye.

Hmph. <_<

Dannyel, I hope I'm not starting a issue with you here but just a quick reading on your text shows that you may be too reactive to other's thoughts and isn't really a "diplomatic" person. You can't hide your opinions very well, and why should you do it?

1 - Didn't get your use of inverted commas. Irony?

2 - São Paulo and Brasília are only that: Business and Capital respectively. Rio de Janeiro alone is much much more... Do you believe that?

3 - Why the heck did we get into São Paulo again????

4 - Rio's not the permanent "focus" of the media because it's iconic and marvelous. Don't you agree?

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The problem with dannyiel is that where he works many of his colleagues discovered that his soft spot is his RJ and they love to talk **** about Rio just to make dannyiel angry hehehe

then he imagines it must be the same everywhere... everyone bashing about RJ 24h per day...

Only in football discussions I mention Rio. Simply because I like to make fun of it's football since I have a lot of friends who cheer for Framengo (+1 year without a brasileirão :D, btw! Tchau mulambada! Qm nasceu no ano do último título brasileiro do fla já vai poder tirar carteira de motorista no ano q vem, hehe)

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About sponsor on cars, Button won the F1 Championship with lots of Brazilian sponsor in his car... Itaipava beer, TNT energy drink, Banco do Brasil, Mapfre Assurance (Spanish, but the ad was paied by Brazilian subsidiary).

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Very good logos!

Btw, TNT started a 'Pro-Team'. Thats a good news that we should be discussing here. The benefits that the athletes gonna get because of Rio2016... Hopefully other companies will do the same..

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It would be nice for Rio having a street circuit in Flamengo Park.. But I can imagine the traffic jams caused by this, since Aterro do Flamengo is the last part of a main corridor to get Downtown Rio.

Dannyel, Flamengo Park (Aterro) is ALWAYS closed on Sundays and holidays for leisure and sport activities and we never have any kind of problems with traffic jams because of that. Remember Downtown Rio is kinda 'dead' on weekends.

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Dannyel, Flamengo Park (Aterro) is ALWAYS closed on Sundays and holidays for leisure and sport activities and we never have any kind of problems with traffic jams because of that. Remember Downtown Rio is kinda 'dead' on weekends.

By the way, every other week there is a sport event there, like 10km races, cycling, etc.

Just remind that the beach front avenues from Copacabana to Leblon are also closed and last time I have checked Lagoa, as well.

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Dannyel, Flamengo Park (Aterro) is ALWAYS closed on Sundays and holidays for leisure and sport activities and we never have any kind of problems with traffic jams because of that. Remember Downtown Rio is kinda 'dead' on weekends.

the trainings starts friday, and probably they need to build some structure... It will take a week...

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Hmph. <_<

Dannyel, I hope I'm not starting a issue with you here but just a quick reading on your text shows that you may be too reactive to other's thoughts and isn't really a "diplomatic" person. You can't hide your opinions very well, and why should you do it?

1 - Didn't get your use of inverted commas. Irony?

2 - São Paulo and Brasília are only that: Business and Capital respectively. Rio de Janeiro alone is much much more... Do you believe that?

3 - Why the heck did we get into São Paulo again????

4 - Rio's not the permanent "focus" of the media because it's iconic and marvelous. Don't you agree?

Don't worry, we can discuss since you have been polite.

And I'm not hiding my opinions...

1 - I didn't get it...

2 - I only put some characteristic, didn't made a high report about the cities.

3 - I don't know... Maybe many paulistas here talking about their city.

4 - No, but as a well-known city worldwidely Rio gains media exposition. Which means, you can have better things or worst things in other Brazilian cities, but Rio will be always the focus for news. Indeed, the majority of International correspondents in Brazil are in Rio.

See national news in Brazil, it seems there is only Rio and Sao Paulo for the news... The same internationally, it SEEMS

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By the way, every other week there is a sport event there, like 10km races, cycling, etc.

Just remind that the beach front avenues from Copacabana to Leblon are also closed and last time I have checked Lagoa, as well.

For sundays it will be not a problem, it will be, indeed, a beautiful party.

The problem is the previous week. Well, we should read all the plans before speculating.

They can arrange it to have training only at afternoons.

I think a street circuit in Flamengo Park will be great... But it would be better for a Formula 1 Grand Prix (and not the Brazilian GP, a second GP in Brazil like Atlantic GP, Rio GP, South America GP - since Interlago is one of the better races in the calendar).

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4 - No, but as a well-known city worldwidely Rio gains media exposition. Which means, you can have better things or worst things in other Brazilian cities, but Rio will be always the focus for news. Indeed, the majority of International correspondents in Brazil are in Rio.

See national news in Brazil, it seems there is only Rio and Sao Paulo for the news... The same internationally, it SEEMS

That's not my point. Rio and SP aren't on the media only because they're iconic or busy. There's much more going on there... But this is the subject of other future threads.

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I think a street circuit in Flamengo Park will be great... But it would be better for a Formula 1 Grand Prix (and not the Brazilian GP, a second GP in Brazil like Atlantic GP, Rio GP, South America GP - since Interlago is one of the better races in the calendar).

Another street race? Not gonna happen... RJ would need to offer a shitload of money to Bernie Ecclestone. Street Races produces the most boring races in the season and they just added Valencia's and Singapore's GPs...

Oh, and theres no chance of a 2nd gp in Brazil unless it happens one week apart of the other...

Would be easier to take the GP from Interlagos... But 2 gp's here? Nops...

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3 - Why the heck did we get into São Paulo again????

It´s strange, but it seems that some cariocas only few glad about their city when they can compare it with Sao Paulo in anything that Rio has (or they try to give) some advantage.

Checking some orkut forums we always find in Rio´s groups LOTS of posts about comparisons between Sao Paulo x Rio and the typical "Rio is olympic and Sao Paulo is not", "Rio has beaches and Sao Paulo doesn´t" etc.

On the other side, I seldom find threads about Rio in Sao Paulo´s groups in the same orkut.

It seems that some cariocas worry more about Sao Paulo than Rio itself, when they should exactely do the opposite.

One of the members, called "Mestre", answered the question "Why cariocas don´t care about money", in a very concious way that may describe, in my opinion, how a carioca bairrista think and act (I know cariocas will be mad about me, but I agree with him):

"We still think that we are the center of the country. We think that our problems are the same of the rest of Brazil. We care too much with the rest of the country, more than we should care of ourselves.

We are not the center of the country, our problems may be similar to the other cities, but similarity doesn´t mean that they´re the same. Then, we don´t need to look to the other places in this country.

We closed our eyes to our city for decades, because, when a federal capital, we were used to be sutained not by the blessings of Christ the Redeemer, but by the federal government, that we hosted for 200 years in three different scenes of our nation.

We allowed our companies to move to Sao Paulo, we allowed our Stock Exchange die for theirs, and we didn´t claimed, because Sao Paulo is Brazil

We don´t care about money because most cariocas think that we get it freely from the federal government. It´s obvious, but many cariocas still didn´t notice that we are not the capital of the country anymore. We think that we´re "special" above the others; but we´re not.

We represent everything that Brazil doesn´t want to be anymore, except ourselves: the land of samba, football, beaches, slums, corruption, of the carnaval dancer and of the "malandro". And our conter-image, of the "land of work", was assumed by Sao Paulo, even if it´s the true.

We are the antitesis of the future. We are the reflex of Brazil from the past. Just because we don´t want to get out of there."

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Rogerio, I'll be not mad at you (I didn't read you whole post.. It's useless since it's a bairrismo analysis) but

do you really believe there are only bairristas in Rio???

And Ibirapuera is a undercover carioca pretending to be a paulista here???

Please, don't answer... We don't need more analysis on this stupid issue - bairrismo.

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do you really believe there are only bairristas in Rio???

Of course, I don´t. I have some carioca friends that actually love to come to Sao Paulo. And I still havent found any carioca who hates Sao Paulo personally, but only on the internet.

Ok... I wont answer anymore. Case closed.

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