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unless the tube had 2 layers and had water running through it to keep it really cool

You would need the mechanism AND the double back-up water pumping system a la Salt Lake City's to make it work. But you are right.

Again, I have a fuller explanation of Salt Lake cauldron's workings in THE BOOK!!

That glass shaft would structurally be very unstable; blocks off probably a good premium section, and will be a great hazard. They wouldn't even have the Teflon roof touching the column for fear of an entire conflagration.

It's got to be something that will not CUT through the Teflon roof. So either a small one on the ground and a 2nd one outside.

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I thought someone wrote they may be installing a glass panel in the roof which made me think it might be a glass panel with a pass through for some kind of inner-outer flame :) . Just speculating for fun. It would definitely block some major views.....can it be in the middle of the field or won't it be in the way there?

I was in a thrift store a couple weeks back in Houston and found a very large coffee table book, which was an official account of the Salt Lake City cauldron from conception, vision, design, production, transport from Pasadena to Salt Lake, instalation, and lighting. It was $1 and is signed by a guy in charge of the ceremonies,(can't remember the name and I'm traveling right now).....anyway.....I love Salt Lake and can;t believe i found this awesome book in perfect condition! Yes, it had the water cooled glass element like you mention. Tons af awsome design sketches and technical drawings! Old news but it's a cool book.

Oh I just found a link to the book on Amazon and another link to an article about it!

http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Cauldron-Ol...s/dp/097257140X

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/5900400...ed-in-book.html

1718019.jpg1718029.jpgAwsome book

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I thought someone wrote they may be installing a glass panel in the roof which made me think it might be a glass panel with a pass through for some kind of inner-outer flame :) . Just speculating for fun. It would definitely block some major views.....can it be in the middle of the field or won't it be in the way there?

I was in a thrift store a couple weeks back in Houston and found a very large coffee table book, which was an official account of the Salt Lake City cauldron from conception, vision, design, production, transport from Pasadena to Salt Lake, instalation, and lighting. It was $1 and is signed by a guy in charge of the ceremonies,(can't remember the name and I'm traveling right now).....anyway.....I love Salt Lake and can;t believe i found this awesome book in perfect condition! Yes, it had the water cooled glass element like you mention. Tons af awsome design sketches and technical drawings! Old news but it's a cool book.

Oh I just found a link to the book on Amazon and another link to an article about it!

http://www.amazon.com/Creating-Cauldron-Ol...s/dp/097257140X

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/5900400...ed-in-book.html

1718019.jpg1718029.jpgAwsome book

Wow!! Lucky you for finding that book for $1. The cheapest (obviously used) one I could find was $20.00 over the net. Originally, I believe the book which was put out by the designer/manufacturer of the cauldron was like $43 (and still availalbe from them). Yes, I used that book as my source for the few pages on the SLC cauldron. Your book might've been signed by Scott Givens, indeed SLC's head of Ceremonies -- and one of the interviewees in my book.

MY BOOK MIGHT BE AVAILALBE ALREADY NEXT WEEK. Am just waiting for the final proof which should arrive in a day or 2; and after that...it's a go!! Watch for Launch details here on GB!!

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i'm assuming that you are an engineer of some kind 'olympian2004'. you seem to speak from a place of expertise that these ideas are "unlikeable".

I can only repeat myself: I think a cauldron reaching through the roof is very (if not absolutely) unlikeable. I don't see the feasibility of such a construction without the collapse or at least scorching of the roof. I also think such an inside/outside cauldron would look very awkward.

I rather think they'll construct something like the Calgary cauldron in the centre of the field -- a cauldron pretty near to the floor when it is lit by the final torchbearer, then rising up hydraulically. So nothing extremely innovative. But maybe they'll have at least an innovative lighting mechanism.

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the olympic cauldron is not in VANOC's budget? hmm...how is that possible? i think if VANOC was concerned about staying on budget, more than 50% of venues/sights would not even be completed. but i think they must have budgeted for one of the cornerstones/highlights of an olympics- no?

^ lol, all of these ideas aren't even within VANOC's budget nevermind being realistic.
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i re-read your post and my apologies...you said "within" budget. perhaps over-the-top idea/cauldron would not fall within the budget, you are right.

the olympic cauldron is not in VANOC's budget? hmm...how is that possible? i think if VANOC was concerned about staying on budget, more than 50% of venues/sights would not even be completed. but i think they must have budgeted for one of the cornerstones/highlights of an olympics- no?
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stirthesoul, you should have PMed me when you were in Houston, it's always fun to meet fellow GamesBidders! :lol: Do you come here often?

Well yes I was coming quite often for a project I was doing there, but I just finished it. I'll probably be starting another thing there in January.

I like Houston a lot, but I like everywhere I go, always fun to see different sky.

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Wow!! Lucky you for finding that book for $1.

I know! It is in perfect condition. The name Scott Givens sounds familiar, that may be who it's signed by. I'll check when I get home and let you know, there some writing to someone too.

Cant wait for your book!!!

Dumb Question..........What games is the sho on the cover from??

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i'm assuming that you are an engineer of some kind 'olympian2004'. you seem to speak from a place of expertise that these ideas are "unlikeable".

Engineer? No, absolutely not. I've studied politics, history and law. :lol: It's just clear to see for everyone who can count one and one together that such a cauldron wouldn't work. You just have to think about what happens if you hold an iron too long to a shirt. Or if you pierce a balloon with a needle.

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"Shut up Mr.x....roof bet...roof is going to fall...shoving steak up his ass?" Is that all you're capable of saying? Dear god, in person you must be really f'd up in the head.

For one thing, I'm pretty sure you can tell them yourself as you have a zillion hidden accounts on those other websites. How many times have you been banned from Skyscraperpage? 25?

Secondly, nobody gives a damn about you nor what you think.

Finally, learn some respect - not just for yourself (as every additional post you make only embarrasses you even more) but for others. You've destroyed the Vancouver forum in GamesBids, turning some topics into complete jokes and ruining the flow of the forum.

It's an absolute shame that you're still allowed to post here.

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Shutup Mr. X, you're an idiot.

And you can tell that JLousa clown on SSC that he can forget the roof bet and take his steak and shove up his ass.

There's a big storm blowing in Vancouver tonight; the stadium roof is at risk.

I just found this info about the cauldron and lighting method for Vancouver BC, can't believe this info was on line already!

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It's actually a terrible site, and never works, don't go if you know whats good for you. If you go there you will definitely get horrible viruses and your computer will crash and die......and you may also die. :D

Touche!! At least on pages 120-124 of THE BOOK, your computer won't get infected, go blind nor likely to catch syphilis online!!

(Book delayed for about 10 days more...but it will be available around December 8 or so...still in plenty of time for the Vancouver Opening.)

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