Sir Rols 1902 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Not enough primeval forests!! Ah, of course! I forgot. And it's not France either! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr OF 2 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 I meant Are. BTW regarding your sig page Copenhagen should bid alone. Why would you compere Åre with München? If Sweden won the rights to host a game, Åre would probably only host alpine skiing and maybe curling and bobsleigh/skeleton/luge. I know that a joint bid with Copenhagen and Malmö would never win, but I think it could be awesome! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1693 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 I know that a joint bid with Copenhagen and Malmö would never win, but I think it could be awesome! Why would you consider a joint of a 3-way split bid or Games "awesome"? Such a scenario would dissipate the energy of the event. Further, being held across two national borders, the Games would have competing characters and looks. It's impractical especially if there are bids that can stage them in ONE country. That's why bi-national bids are NOT encouraged. More negatives than positives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 I know that a joint bid with Copenhagen and Malmö would never win, but I think it could be awesome! Me too! But Copenhagen would likely bid alone (if they ever did). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr OF 2 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Why would you consider a joint of a 3-way split bid or Games "awesome"? Such a scenario would dissipate the energy of the event. Further, being held across two national borders, the Games would have competing characters and looks. It's impractical especially if there are bids that can stage them in ONE country. That's why bi-national bids are NOT encouraged. More negatives than positives. How did it became a 3-way split bid? But you have a valuable point, I think it wold be exciting to see how they would try to solve it. And I would love to see a Swedish bid for a Olympic game! (= But it will never happen... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 How did it became a 3-way split bid? But you have a valuable point, I think it wold be exciting to see how they would try to solve it. And I would love to see a Swedish bid for a Olympic game! (= But it will never happen... A Swedish bid happened before and if the Ostersund and Are have a very compact venue plan that would be a winnable bid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rols 1902 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) A Swedish bid happened before and if the Ostersund and Are have a very compact venue plan that would be a winnable bid. Yes, and it was THE favourite for 1994 - only missing out when Lillehammer pipped it by a couple of votes in a tie-break round - leading to some very awkward exchanges between Samaranch and the Swedish King.. Why are you so anti a Swedish WOG bid? IMO, it's an inevitability that it will happen eventually. Edited September 13, 2011 by Don Rolando Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Yes, and it was THE favourite for 1994 - only missing out when Lillehammer pipped it by a couple of votes in a tie-break round - leading to some very awkward exchanges between Samaranch and the Swedish King.. Why are you so anti a Swedish WOG bid? IMO, it's an inevitability that it will happen eventually. I am not anti Swedish bid I would love for a country with some winter sport pedigree across the board (unlike 2018 ) to host. However, my undoing is that the ceremonies would be held in a small stadium etc. I like the big city feel to the Olympics. Maybe in 2018 that changes my mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Rols 1902 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 I am not anti Swedish bid I would love for a country with some winter sport pedigree across the board (unlike 2018 ) to host. However, my undoing is that the ceremonies would be held in a small stadium etc. I like the big city feel to the Olympics. Maybe in 2018 that changes my mind. Considering the small-town atmosphere of Lillehammer still brings fond memories and is often touted in a selling point in many bids these days, it will probably happen again eventually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyelBrazil 703 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Why not? If the USA hosts any of 2020/2024/2028/2032, then the Americas will have a strong chance again by the 2040's. And i don't think Toronto is assured against B.A or Mexico in 3 decades. I think it's more to a Mexican 2nd time than an Argentine first... Don't worry, Premium, you can vote this down again, this will not change my opinion about a subject I'm really closer than any Premium Member here). MY OPINION AGAIN, IN HUGE LETTERS: IF ARGENTINA CHANGES THEIR GOVERNMENT RADICALLY, KICKING THE PERONIST MOVEMENT FROM CASA ROSADA PALACE AND FIX THEIR ECONOMY (NOW IN REALLY BAD SITUATION WITH ALMOST 30% INFLATION RATE), BUENOS AIRES CAN BE A STRONG BID EVEN FOR THE NEXT "AMERICAS TURN". IF NOT CHANGES, THEY CAN'T EVEN BID FOR A POKER TOURNAMENT. Why not? If the USA hosts any of 2020/2024/2028/2032, then the Americas will have a strong chance again by the 2040's. And i don't think Toronto is assured against B.A or Mexico in 3 decades. No doubts, I'd be happy to be wrong and see Latin America hosting again in 2040s or even before... I'd be happy also to see a really new Olympic Host in Latin America, like Bogota, Lima or Panama City. This would be special. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyelBrazil 703 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 --- People is messing my opinions with some rivalry in football that really exists in Brazil vs. Argentina relationship. But if you guys don't believe in me, please, at least, check google about how in ruins is Argentina now-a-days, economically, politically and even inside its society. Buenos Aires will be a strong bid always, if Argentina have a normal situation as country, like when they got shortlistened for 2004 bid. As I pointed several times here, as Brazilian, I root for the success of the other South American countries, since it would be extremely stupid to develop Brazil to sustain parasite neighbours - as it actually happening in case of Paraguay, Bolivia and in smaller grade: Argentina - just to point a fact, they don't have printers for currency bills anymore and all Argentine Pesos have been printed in Brazil. Can this country bid for Olympic Games? Take your conclusions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1693 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 However, my undoing is that the ceremonies would be held in a small stadium etc. I like the big city feel to the Olympics. Maybe in 2018 that changes my mind. I will decree that they build a 400,000-seat stadium for Ceremonies and figure-skating!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 I think it's more to a Mexican 2nd time than an Argentine first... Don't worry, Premium, you can vote this down again, this will not change my opinion about a subject I'm really closer than any Premium Member here). MY OPINION AGAIN, IN HUGE LETTERS: IF ARGENTINA CHANGES THEIR GOVERNMENT RADICALLY, KICKING THE PERONIST MOVEMENT FROM CASA ROSADA PALACE AND FIX THEIR ECONOMY (NOW IN REALLY BAD SITUATION WITH ALMOST 30% INFLATION RATE), BUENOS AIRES CAN BE A STRONG BID EVEN FOR THE NEXT "AMERICAS TURN". IF NOT CHANGES, THEY CAN'T EVEN BID FOR A POKER TOURNAMENT. No doubts, I'd be happy to be wrong and see Latin America hosting again in 2040s or even before... I'd be happy also to see a really new Olympic Host in Latin America, like Bogota, Lima or Panama City. This would be special. Arguably another sog's will be held in canada and usa before argentina. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr OF 2 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 I am not anti Swedish bid I would love for a country with some winter sport pedigree across the board (unlike 2018 ) to host. However, my undoing is that the ceremonies would be held in a small stadium etc. I like the big city feel to the Olympics. Maybe in 2018 that changes my mind. In the plan Östersund had for 2014, the ceremonies was planned to be held at a stadium with capacity for 40,000. That's pretty equal with the games between 1994 and 2014. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IHaveADream 0 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 OK, but is there the required minimum 800m drop required by the FIS to be considered as a possible Olympic contender? Baron, Most mountains in Northern New Mexico have the minimum 800m drop. This is taken at Angelfire Resort which is a little hop to the Northeast of Taos. There is also Pajarito in Los Alamos. And while Albequerque is the largest city, Sante Fe is where all the action and nightlife takes place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1693 Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Baron, Most mountains in Northern New Mexico have the minimum 800m drop. This is taken at Angelfire Resort which is a little hop to the Northeast of Taos. There is also Pajarito in Los Alamos. And while Albequerque is the largest city, Sante Fe is where all the action and nightlife takes place. OK, I don't know that since I have never seen a serious New Mexico bid. That's the only reason I asked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Citius Altius Fortius 560 Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) EUROPE: Summer Olympics: Istanbul (TUR), Rome (ITA), Madrid (ESP), Berlin (GER) or Paris (FRA) Winter Olympics: Östersund (SWE), Bern (SUI), Geneve (SUI), Zürich (SUI), München (GER) or Salzburg (AUT) NORTH-AMERICA: Summer Olympics: Chicago (USA), Washington (USA), San Franscisco (USA) or Toronto (CAN) Winter Olympics: Reno (USA) or Denver (USA) ASIA: Summer Olympics: Tokio (JPN), Osaka (JPN) or Dubai (UAE) Winter Olympics: Harbin (CHN) OCEANIA: Summer Olympics: Brisbane (AUS), Melbourne (AUS) or Auckland (NZL) Winter Olympics: it is a pitty that New Zealand doesn't want to bid with Christchurch SOUTH-AMERICA: Summer Olympics: I doubt that we will see another Summer Olympics in South-America for a long time Winter Olympics: Santiago de Chile (CHI) is the only possible bid from South-America AFRICA: Summer Olympics: Durban (RSA) or Capetown (RSA) Winter Olympics: "not possible" Edited September 20, 2011 by Couth African Force Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Moose 5 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Thought I should give Sweden a neighborly hand here.... :blink: A country that has the same GDP as a part of Canada (Quebec) certainly is not third world if Canada is fourth world. If Sweden were to win they would need billions is infrastructure upgrades, why would the IOC award them the games when bids such as Munich are there? Sweden has about 10 % more people than Quebec, and about 10 % higher GDP. I don't see your point. And GDP is not everything. Norway has significantly higher GDP per capita than Sweden, but it is Sweden, not Norway, that probably is probably the most well-organized country in the world. Swedish infrastructure is in general very good. To begin, it's more like 40,000 people living in Östersund. The expected games i Östersund (according to the plans for 2014) wold be less spread-out then a game in München (if it would be as in the bid for 2018). In contrast to München, Östersund is more of a winter-town, they have more experience of biding for the winter games and have hosted more mayor events in the concerned sports. There are about 60 000 people living in Ôstersund, actually. Not a metropolis, but much larger than for instance Lillehammer. Being the largest winter resort of Scandinavia, Åre alone has about 35 000 guest beds, and there is roughly a similar number in the nearby Härjedalen. No real sport enthusiasts give a **** about the ceremonies anyway, hmh I might not have many supporters on that view in here.... Having said this, Munich will probably be hard to beat if they try to pull off a 2022 application, in which case a the next European opportunity might be 2030. Thought I should give Sweden a neighborly hand here.... Sweden has about 10 % more people than Quebec, and about 10 % higher GDP. I don't see your point. And GDP is not everything. Norway has significantly higher GDP per capita than Sweden, but it is Sweden, not Norway, that probably is probably the most well-organized country in the world. Swedish infrastructure is in general very good. There are about 60 000 people living in Ôstersund, actually. Not a metropolis, but much larger than for instance Lillehammer. Being the largest winter resort of Scandinavia, Åre alone has about 35 000 guest beds, and there is roughly a similar number in the nearby Härjedalen. No real sport enthusiasts give a **** about the ceremonies anyway, hmh I might not have many supporters on that view in here.... Having said this, Munich will probably be hard to beat if they try to pull off a 2022 application, in which case a the next European opportunity might be 2030. ^^Interesting sensorship functionality detected in the above post... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Citius Altius Fortius 560 Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 ^^Interesting sensorship functionality detected in the above post... I wouldn't call it sensorship functionality, but I recognised that too - it seems that the quote function works only once - when you quote a post with another quote, the first quote is gone... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Moose 5 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 What I noticed was that a certain word was substituted with ****, but I guess I should learn to watch my mouth.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Citius Altius Fortius 560 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) What I noticed was that a certain word was substituted with ****, but I guess I should learn to watch my mouth.... Ohh - you are right I had never recognised that... Edited October 12, 2011 by Citius Altius Fortius Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baron-pierreIV 1693 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 No real sport enthusiasts give a **** about the ceremonies anyway, No real Olympic Ceremonies enthusiasts give a **** about the sports anyway. They are just filler between Opening and Closing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intoronto 650 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 For me I love the entire package ceremonies/competition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
emre 92 Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Asia The Summer Games: Tokyo, Shanghai or Hongkong, Bangkok , Delhi The Winter Games: Harbin Almaty Also i want to see Yakutsk (siberia) Lhasa ( ow i really like to see that one :S ). Europe The Summer Games: Istanbul Berlin Moscow Paris Madrid The Winter Games: Munich Nuuk America The Summer Games: Toronto San Francisco , NYC, Buenos Aires The Winter Games: Reno - Lake Tahoe (for Baron ) Santiago , Anchorage For Oceania The Summer Games: Melbourne The Winter Games: no idea :S For Africa The Summer Games: Cape Town South Africa and Nairobi Kenya. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sredetsfan 0 Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Asia Summer: Tokyo Winter: Almaty Europe Summer: BERLIN!, St.Petersburg, and Madrid Winter: Sofia, Ostersund, Salzburg => aka... i'm no fan of Munich.. haha! America Summer: NYC Winter: Anywhere in Vermont, Quebec, Anchorage. The Greater Australias: Summer: Brisbane/Gold Coast Winter: Christchurch For Africa Summer: Capetown or Jo-burg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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