Citius Altius Fortius Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Its tradition on GB to speak in a thread about the order how the nations enter at the OC - I did a little some investigations and here it is the order @ our Brazilian members, please check it - maybe I did a fault - do you think that the nations with "Republic of" comes in under R or about the other letters of the local names of the country? Grécia Afganistão África do Sul Albânia Alemanha Andorra Angola Antígue e Barbuda Antilhas Holandesas Arábia Saudita Argélia Argentina Arménia Aruba Austrália Áustria Azerbaijão Bahamas Bahrain Bangladesh Barbados Bélgica Belize Benim Bermudas Bielorrússia Bolívia Bósnia e Herzegovina Botsuana Brunei Burundi Bulgária Burkina Faso Butão Cabo Verde Camarões Cambodja Canadá Cazaquistão Chade Chile China Chipre Colômbia Comores Congo Coreia Costa Rica Côte d’Ivoire Croácia Cuba Dinamarca Djibouti Dominica Ecuador Egito El Salvador Emirados Árabes Unidos Eritrea Eslováquia Eslovênia Espanha Estados Federados da Micronésia Estados Unidos Estônia Etiópia Fiji Filipinas Finlândia França Gabão Gâmbia Gana Geórgia Grenada Guam Guatemala Guinana Guiné Guiné-Bissau Guiné Equatorial Haiti Hong Kong Honduras Hungria Iémen Ilhas Cayman Ilhas Cook Ilhas Marshall Ilhas Salomão Ilhas Virgens Americanas Ilhas Virgens Britânicas Índia Indonésia Irã Iraque Irlanda Islândia Israel Itália Jamaica Japão Jordânia Kuwait Laos Lesotho Letônia Lîbano Libéria Lîbia Liechtenstein Lituânia Luxemburgo Macedónia Madagáscar Malásia Malawi Mali Malivas Malta Marrocos Maurícia Mauritânia México Mianmar Moçambique Moldávia Mónaco Mongólia Montenegro Namîbia Nauru Nepal Nicarágua Nigéria Níger Noruega Nova Zelândia Omã Países Baixos Palau Palestina Panamá Papua-Nova Guiné Paraguai Paquistão Peru Polónia Portugal Porto Rico Qatar Quênia Quirguistão Quiribáti Reino Unido República Centro-Africana República Checa República Democrática do Congo República Democrática Popular da Coreia República Dominicana Romênia Ruanda Rússia Samoa Samoa Americana Santa Lúcia São Cristóvão e Névis São Marinho São Tomé e Príncipe São Vicente e Granadinas Senegal Serra Leoa Sérvia Seychelles Singapura Síria Somália Sri Lanka Suazilândia Sudão Suécia Suiça Suriname Tadjiquistão Tailândia Taipé Chinesa (Taiwan) Tanzânia Timor-Leste Togo Tonga Trinidad e Tobago Tunísia Turquia Tuvalu Ucrânia Uganda Uruguai Uzbequistão Vanuatu Venezuela Vietnã Zâmbia Zimbábue Brasil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinhu4ever Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Will the countries use their official names? For example, will North Korea be called Democratic People's Republic of Korea or just North Korea? If that is the case, the Koreas will be in the C section. And the Netherlands are commonly known in Brazil as simply "Holanda". Will they parade with the Ps (for Paises Baixos) or the Hs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinhu4ever Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 And, other than that, I think that's pretty much it. Gosh, this will take sooooo long XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted October 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 It depends - I suppose the Republic of Korea wants to enter under "Korea" - North Korea will emphasise that it is the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea well - Holland is a province of the Netherlands it would be comparable when Brazil would enter a stadium under the letter "R" if Brazil was called "Rio de Janeiro" in the hosting country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfla Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Its tradition on GB to speak in a thread about the order how the nations enter at the OC - I did a little some investigations and here it is the order@ our Brazilian members, please check it - maybe I did a fault - do you think that the nations with "Republic of" comes in under R or about the other letters of the local names of the country? Grécia Afganistão África do Sul Albânia Alemanha Andorra Angola Antígue e Barbuda Antilhas Holandesas Arábia Saudita Argélia Argentina Arménia Aruba Austrália Áustria Azerbaijão Bahamas Bahrain Bangladesh Barbados Bélgica Belize Benim Bermudas Bielorrússia Bolívia Bósnia e Herzegovina Botsuana Brunei Burundi Bulgária Burkina Faso Butão Cabo Verde Camarões Cambodja Canadá Cazaquistão Chade Chile China Chipre Colômbia Comores Congo Coreia Costa Rica Côte d’Ivoire Croácia Cuba Dinamarca Djibouti Dominica Ecuador Egito El Salvador Emirados Árabes Unidos Eritrea Eslováquia Eslovênia Espanha Estados Federados da Micronésia Estados Unidos Estônia Etiópia Fiji Filipinas Finlândia França Gabão Gâmbia Gana Geórgia Grenada Guam Guatemala Guinana Guiné Guiné-Bissau Guiné Equatorial Haiti Hong Kong Honduras Hungria Iémen Ilhas Cayman Ilhas Cook Ilhas Marshall Ilhas Salomão Ilhas Virgens Americanas Ilhas Virgens Britânicas Índia Indonésia Irã Iraque Irlanda Islândia Israel Itália Jamaica Japão Jordânia Kuwait Laos Lesotho Letônia Lîbano Libéria Lîbia Liechtenstein Lituânia Luxemburgo Macedónia Madagáscar Malásia Malawi Mali Malivas Malta Marrocos Maurícia Mauritânia México Mianmar Moçambique Moldávia Mónaco Mongólia Montenegro Namîbia Nauru Nepal Nicarágua Nigéria Níger Noruega Nova Zelândia Omã Países Baixos Palau Palestina Panamá Papua-Nova Guiné Paraguai Paquistão Peru Polónia Portugal Porto Rico Qatar Quênia Quirguistão Quiribáti Reino Unido República Centro-Africana República Checa República Democrática do Congo República Democrática Popular da Coreia República Dominicana Romênia Ruanda Rússia Samoa Samoa Americana Santa Lúcia São Cristóvão e Névis São Marinho São Tomé e Príncipe São Vicente e Granadinas Senegal Serra Leoa Sérvia Seychelles Singapura Síria Somália Sri Lanka Suazilândia Sudão Suécia Suiça Suriname Tadjiquistão Tailândia Taipé Chinesa (Taiwan) Tanzânia Timor-Leste Togo Tonga Trinidad e Tobago Tunísia Turquia Tuvalu Ucrânia Uganda Uruguai Uzbequistão Vanuatu Venezuela Vietnã Zâmbia Zimbábue Brasil Just small mistakes Antigua e Barbuda Camboja Costa do Marfim is the right not Côte d’Ivoire Equador Eritréia Granada Guiana Lesoto Libano Libia Madagascar Maldivas Maurício Myanmar Namibia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4gamesandcounting Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Where is GB on your list - probably my eyes, but couldn't spot us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis-The-Dentist Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Where is GB on your list - probably my eyes, but couldn't spot us! Great Britain in Portuguese is REINO UNIDO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis-The-Dentist Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Where is GB on your list - probably my eyes, but couldn't spot us! Oh and I forgot to mention, Great Britain can be both REINO UNIDO or GRÃ-BRETANHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis-The-Dentist Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I spot some mistakes and I'm gonna correct them and post the list in a few minutes. Most of them is spelling. The portuguese language have two official spellings, The Brazilian and The European and some of the countries in the list CAF posted are spelled like they would in Portugal, not Brazil. And there are countries that have more than one usual name in Brazil (Reino Unido and Grã-Bretanha for example and Antígua e Barbuda or Antiga e Barbuda) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I thought Brazil was going to do it differently, according to danny? So, will the nations march in backwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I spot some mistakes and I'm gonna correct them and post the list in a few minutes. Most of them is spelling. The portuguese language have two official spellings, The Brazilian and The European and some of the countries in the list CAF posted are spelled like they would in Portugal, not Brazil. And there are countries that have more than one usual name in Brazil (Reino Unido and Grã-Bretanha for example and Antígua e Barbuda or Antiga e Barbuda) If there are 2 versions, like Great Britain's, they would go with Grã-Bretanha since that's a closer match to the IOC's appellation of GBR -- and it's more universally recognized. Besides, the IOC does not recognize it as the United Kingdom (Reino Unido). Too bad, Brits, you'll be standing much longer. Well, your guys would have had it easy 4 years earlier. Now, MO, how are the nations going to march in...in Cape Town?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis-The-Dentist Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I went through CAF list, and made some corrections, both in spelling and alphabetical order. I used the Acordo Ortográfico da Língua Portuguesa de 1990, in other words, the way words are spelt correctly nowadays in both Europeanl and Brazilian variations of the Portuguese language (where it applies because some regional differences between Portugal and Brazil were kept even after the Acordo). If I forgot any country please tell me, I'll put it on the list. Grécia Afeganistão África do Sul Albânia Alemanha Andorra Angola Antígua e Barbuda (more common than Antiga e Barbuda. Antígue, like CAF posted is not correct) Arábia Saudita Argélia Argentina Armênia (Arménia is European Portuguese not Brazilian Portuguese) Austrália Áustria Azerbaijão Bahamas Bangladesh Barbados Barein (CAF posted the English name. In Portugal The call it Barém) Bélgica Belize Benim Bermudas Bielorrússia Bolívia Bósnia e Herzegovina Botsuana Brunei Bulgária Burquina Faso Burundi Butão Cabo Verde Camarões Camboja (not Cambdoja) Canadá Catar (more usual than Qatar) Cazaquistão Chade Chile China Chipre Cingapura (not Singapura) Colômbia Comores Congo Coreia Cossovo (more common than Kosovo) Costa do Marfim Costa Rica Couaite (Even though “Kuwait “is being forced into Portuguese, this is still the correct Portuguese spelling) Croácia Cuba Dinamarca Djibuti Dominica Egito El Salvador Emirados Árabes Unidos Equador (not Ecuador as in spanish) Eritreia (Not Eritrea) Eslováquia Eslovênia Espanha Estados Unidos da América Estônia Etiópia Fiji Filipinas Finlândia França Gabão Gâmbia Gana Geórgia Granada (not Grenada) Guão (More usual than Guam) Guatemala Guiana Guiné Guiné-Bissau Guiné Equatorial Haiti Honduras Hongue Congue (yes, it's strange but it is a Portuguese variation) Hungria Iêmen (Iémen is the way they spell it in Portugal) Ilhas Caimã (BR portuguese version) Ilhas Cook Ilhas Marshall Ilhas Salomão Ilhas Virgens Americanas Ilhas Virgens Britânicas Índia Indonésia Irã Iraque Irlanda Islândia Israel Itália Jamaica Japão Jordânia Laus (not Laos) Lesoto (not Lesotho) Letônia Líbano Libéria Líbia (not Lîbia) Listenstaina (not Liechtenstein) Lituânia Luxemburgo Macedônia (not Macedónia like in Portugal) Madagascar (more usual than Madagáscar in Brazil) Malásia Maláui (Portuguese Version) Maldivas (not malivas) Mali Malta Marrocos Maurícia Mianmar (is indeed correct in Portuguese just like CTF wrote) Mauritânia México Moçambique Moldávia Mônaco Mongólia Montenegro Namíbia Nauru Nepal Nicarágua Níger Nigéria Noruega Nova Zelândia Omã Países Baixos Palau Palestina Panamá Papua-Nova Guiné Paquistão Paraguai Peru Polônia Portugal Porto Rico Quênia Quirguistão Quiribati Reino Unido República Tcheca Romênia (Not Roménia) Ruanda Rússia Samoa Samoa Americana Santa Lúcia São Cristóvão e Neves (not Nevis) São Marinho São Tomé e Príncipe São Vicente e Granadinas Seicheles (more written than Seychelles) Senegal Serra Leoa Sérvia Síria Somália Sri Lanca (more common in Portuguese) Suazilândia Sudão Suécia Suíça Suriname Tailândia Taipê Chinesa Tanzânia Timor-Leste Togo Tonga Trindade e Tobago Tunísia Turquia Tuvalu Ucrânia Uganda Uruguai Usbequistão Vanuatu Vaticano Venezuela Vietnã Zâmbia Zimbabue Brasil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis-The-Dentist Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 If there are 2 versions, like Great Britain's, they would go with Grã-Bretanha since that's a closer match to the IOC's appellation of GBR -- and it's more universally recognized. Besides, the IOC does not recognize it as the United Kingdom (Reino Unido). Too bad, Brits, you'll be standing much longer. Well, your guys would have had it easy 4 years earlier. Now, MO, how are the nations going to march in...in Cape Town?? I think they'll go for Reino Unido in this case. We understand that when you use Reino Unido and Grã-Bretanha you can be referring to the nation, but there's a feeling, when you are speaking Brazilian Portuguese, that when you say Grã-Bretanha you are referring to the island itself excluding Northern Ireland which is in another island, then you aren't refeting to the sovereing Country. In fact, Reino Unido's official name can show you the feel of what I am saying, it's more complete : O Reino Unido da Grã-Bretanha e da Irlanda do Norte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenadian Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Korea will be an odd one. Remember in some recent Olympics, they marched in together. Then I believe they stopped that in Beijing. In some Olympiads, the two Koreas were separated in the march. It will depend on the political situation at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis-The-Dentist Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Korea will be an odd one. Remember in some recent Olympics, they marched in together. Then I believe they stopped that in Beijing. In some Olympiads, the two Koreas were separated in the march. It will depend on the political situation at the time. Exaclty! If they are together they will be Coreia. If they are not, they will be Coreia do Norte and Coreia do Sul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis-The-Dentist Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I spot 3 countries I forgot to mention on my last list, so I added them to this new list. Just to remember, these are the common simple names to which the countries are usually are referred to in Brazil and in accordance to the Acordo Ortográfico da Lingua Portugusa de 1990 where it applies. The Koreas are united in this situation. Grécia Afeganistão África do Sul Albânia Alemanha Andorra Angola Antígua e Barbuda (more common than Antiga e Barbuda. Antígue, like CAF posted is not correct) Arábia Saudita Argélia Argentina Armênia (Arménia is European Portuguese not Brazilian Portuguese) Austrália Áustria Azerbaijão Bahamas Bangladesh Barbados Barein (CAF posted the English name. In Portugal The call it Barém) Bélgica Belize Benim Bermudas Bielorrússia Bolívia Bósnia e Herzegovina Botsuana Brunei Bulgária Burquina Faso Burundi Butão Cabo Verde Camarões Camboja (not Cambdoja) Canadá Catar (more usual than Qatar) Cazaquistão Chade Chile China Chipre Cingapura (not Singapura) Colômbia Comores Congo Coreia Cossovo (more common than Kosovo) Costa do Marfim Costa Rica Couaite (Even though “Kuwait “is being forced into Portuguese, this is still the correct Portuguese spelling) Croácia Cuba Dinamarca Djibuti Dominica Egito El Salvador Emirados Árabes Unidos Equador (not Ecuador as in spanish) Eritreia (Not Eritrea) Eslováquia Eslovênia Espanha Estados Unidos da América Estônia Etiópia Fiji Filipinas Finlândia França Gabão Gâmbia Gana Geórgia Granada (not Grenada) Guão (More usual than Guam) Guatemala Guiana Guiné Guiné-Bissau Guiné Equatorial Haiti Honduras Hongue Congue (yes, it's strange but it is a Portuguese variation) Hungria Iêmen (Iémen is the way they spell it in Portugal) Ilhas Caimã (BR portuguese version) Ilhas Cook Ilhas Marshall Ilhas Salomão Ilhas Virgens Americanas Ilhas Virgens Britânicas Índia Indonésia Irã Iraque Irlanda Islândia Israel Itália Jamaica Japão Jordânia Laus (not Laos) Lesoto (not Lesotho) Letônia Líbano Libéria Líbia (not Lîbia) Listenstaina (not Liechtenstein) Lituânia Luxemburgo Macedônia (not Macedónia like in Portugal) Madagascar (more usual than Madagáscar in Brazil) Malásia Maláui (Portuguese Version) Maldivas (not malivas) Mali Malta Marrocos Maurícia Mianmar (is indeed correct in Portuguese just like CTF wrote) Mauritânia México Moçambique Moldávia Mônaco Mongólia Montenegro Namíbia Nauru Nepal Nicarágua Níger Nigéria Noruega Nova Zelândia Omã Países Baixos Palau Palestina Panamá Papua-Nova Guiné Paquistão Paraguai Peru Polônia Portugal Porto Rico Quênia Quirguistão Quiribati Reino Unido República Centro-Africana República Checa República Dominicana Romênia (Not Roménia) Ruanda Rússia Samoa Samoa Americana Santa Lúcia São Cristóvão e Neves (not Nevis) São Marinho São Tomé e Príncipe São Vicente e Granadinas Seicheles (more written than Seychelles) Senegal Serra Leoa Sérvia Síria Somália Sri Lanca (more common in Portuguese) Suazilândia Sudão Suécia Suíça Suriname Tailândia Taipê Chinesa Tanzânia Timor-Leste Togo Tonga Trindade e Tobago Tunísia Turquia Tuvalu Ucrânia Uganda Uruguai Usbequistão Vanuatu Vaticano Venezuela Vietnã Zâmbia Zimbabue Brasil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 No, but in PanAms, the delegations entered the stadium before the scenical presentations, took seat in Maracana tribunes and watched all the show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Denis, there are mistakes... in BR portuguese (that uses to allow foreigner letters) Guam is Guam Sri Lanka with K Kwait or Kuaite with K Hong Kong Taipé Chinesa or Formosa Maurício, Ilhas not Mauricia Liechtenstein (not the PT portuguese version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 No, but in PanAms, the delegations entered the stadium before the scenical presentations, took seat in Maracana tribunes and watched all the show... But danny, that was probably only like, what 5,500 seats and I don't think your PAmOG was in it to make money. If they do that for an SOG, that would mean losing revenue for 10,000 PREMIUM seats...and it would be hard for the cameras to keep them in focus. And then what happens after the...they're properly called the Artistic portions? You will have a big empty field there with no one for the cameras to focus on. See, Beijing did such a great job of creating and maintaining a lot of color and movement on the field. NBC would have it no other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Hmmm, I only told Brazil made different for the PanAm... I don't believe they will do the same for the SOG... And I really they don't, since it will be 10,000 seats less to me... I wanna be there! But, for PanAms they did different, didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Hmmm, I only told Brazil made different for the PanAm... I don't believe they will do the same for the SOG... And I really they don't, since it will be 10,000 seats less to me... I wanna be there! But, for PanAms they did different, didn't they? Re PanAms, I don't know...I haven't seen an OC since 1987. But otherwise, exactly -- less seats for you. For the winters, since they only have to deal with est. 3,000 athletes, they seat them. I think those 2 traditions will hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas_leobas Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 "Couaite" and "Hongue Congue"? LOL I'm Brazilian and I didn't know that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique Valverde Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 and what about Russia and Nedherlands ? Russia in Olympics is presented as Russian Federation, so in portuguese it is: Federação Russa. Here we used to call Nedherlands as "Holanda", Holland in English, wich is wrong, but this name "Países Baixos" is really ugly, it is something like: "Low Countries" They should call it "Neerlanda". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique Valverde Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 "Couaite" and "Hongue Congue"? LOLI'm Brazilian and I didn't know that... LOL This is just crazy. It´s gonna be Kwait and Hong Kong, for fure, and it will be Kosovo, not Kossovo. Hongue Congue is really funny, if we should write names as we speak it, then it should be Ron Con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis-The-Dentist Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Henrique, Daniel and Lucas Instead of saying that I am wrong because you have never seen these countries names being spelt like that, take a look at some good Portuguese dictionary or even at wikipedia. Our language has been butched for years now by the media, mainly because they want to add new anglo therms and people really think that Hong Kong is correct portuguese but it isn't. Couaite and Hongue Conngue are indeed correct Brazilian portuguese and it doesn't take much for you to know. And Daniel, as far as I am concerned, the three letters KYW were JUST introduced into both variations of the Portuguese language and even if it's allowed to write foreign names with KYW in Portuguese, these countries still do have a PROPER portuguese translation. Let's not keep the butcher work and give a little more value to our language. And if we are talking about Funny, what do you think about the name Camarões for example??? It's not even a literal translation but yet it's correct portuguese so LETS RESEARCH a little before making fun of your fellow collegue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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