Istanbul 2020

[Sir Rols]

I'm surprised none of our Turkish members have posted what I think is one of the first comments on the bid's chances from an IOC member (and it's encouraging!):

Olympic committee member: İstanbul never been this likely to host games

A member of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) said on Tuesday that there was a strong possibility that İstanbul could become the host city for the 2020 Olympic Games.

Klaus Schormann, president of the International Union of Modern Pentathlon (UIPM) and a member of the IOC Commission for Culture, said it was the best time for İstanbul's candidacy to host the Olympic Games. “There has never been such a strong possibility,” Schormann said, noting that Turkey delivered a clear message showing its willingness to act as the venue for the games.

Schormann's remarks, made in an interview with Turkey's Anatolia news agency, came after the United States Olympic Committee (USOC) said it will not submit a bid to stage the 2020 Summer Olympics. The USOC said on Monday that there was not enough time to put together a winning bid ahead of the Sept. 1 deadline.

İstanbul is one of the cities that have announced its intention to contend for role of host. Rome, Tokyo and Madrid are also in the race.

Describing İstanbul as a young, dynamic and energetic city, Schormann said the constant transformation and improvement in the city was its biggest advantage. The Olympic committee member also said nobody should lose hopes because the city's candidacy had earlier been turned down four times.

“Forget about the past and think positive,” he told Anatolia, adding that İstanbul had solved most of its problems concerning traffic, accommodations and security. Schormann also noted that Turkey should not receive help from foreign agencies when conducting its promotional campaign, but rather it should use its own people in order to convey a message of self-confidence to the world.

The Olympic Games, regarded as the world's foremost sports competition, is a major international event featuring summer and winter sports during which thousands of athletes compete in various categories. The games are currently held every two years, with the Summer and Winter Olympic Games alternating, although they occur every four years within their respective seasonal games.

The latest Summer Games were held in the Chinese capital of Beijing in 2008. The British capital of London has been elected as the host city for the Olympic Summer Games in 2012.

Today's Zaman

[baron-pierreIV]

If they tell their story well (and please, NO YODELLERS or belly dnacers at your presentation), and they have sexy venues, and a sectarian gov't continues to rule, it might go to Istanbul.

I just fear that with the Army no longer in control of Turkey, if Istanbul wins the honor, and then more and more Islamic-leaning gov'ts come into power, they will start to renege on their universal promises (Israel, and women, etc.); and then the IOC will be pushed between a rock and a hard place--and they will to scramble for a replacement host with a year to go.

[2015]

Oh come on...the Turkish government is more similar to a German-style CDU than a "sectarian" muslim party

Turkey - I agree - has never been so likely a candidate to host the games. I am italian and I would like Rome to win but I reckon on a rate of 50-60% - unless the Turkish OC makes an enormous mistake - the games will land there

[Sir Rols]

So, what do people think? Are we talking early front-runner?

[fatixxx]

I'm surprised none of our Turkish members have posted what I think is one of the first comments on the bid's chances from an IOC member (and it's encouraging!):

Rols .. Normally I wanted to post this news item here. But I didn't had the time to translated it after I didn't/couldn't find a propriate already translated internet link/website about this.

But I can give you the website where I found it: https://www.gsgm.gov.tr/Sayfalar/HaberDetaylari.aspx?HaberID=1842

It is the same text. The website is that of the 'Genaral Sports (and Youth) Directory'

Normally I have a lot to share here from my archive. But I Pm'd GB-Mod about the istanbul2020 subforum. He said to wait till september the 1rst. After he creates the new subforum I will make a clean start to share systematically everything about the new bid. I've been doing a lot of researches about the intention where to build new venues & planned cluster plans.

I'm preparing a lot and will begin with a general topic with the name " Istanbul 2020 - Bicontinental Games Diary ". This thread will continue news + agenda of what I will plan to share and it will serve like an index.

I have the intention to be more active then in the last 6 years together here on GB. I will stand openly to all critics and question in the frame of my competence to answer those.

But I believe that all the news nowadays are citates of foreign people/IF members who are in Turkey/istanbul in the frame of an international sports organisation (as above it was about an international pentathlon championship). The journalists in Turkey are asking more into the directon of getting wished answers back to feed the press-written-media. Because Turkey delivers accurate and clean organisations in the last couple of years. And with this wind in the back IF-members who are in the country are having good feedback about the organsation.

But for me this article what you published here is not so important. He says for example (the interviewed person) That Turkey must use her own brain-power to produce a bid and mustn't work with foreign professionals. I'm against such an explanation. Why not using a mix of those two.

After september 1rst I expecting profesional progammes with professional sportsmen who will informate on TV the Turkish audience with a more fresh view to it. I think that the new bid-procedure in the Turkish media will be reflected as 'a first bidding' than to speak about the 4 previous consecutive biddings.

For now

fatih

[deawebo]

Of course I think it will be a Madrid vs Istanbul good luck Turkey!!!

[Sir Rols]

But for me this article what you published here is not so important. He says for example (the interviewed person) That Turkey must use her own brain-power to produce a bid and mustn't work with foreign professionals. I'm against such an explanation. Why not using a mix of those two.

I think the important thing about this article is it's an IOC member talking, and possibly the first indication of how the Istanbul bid is starting to be received and perceived in the ranks of those who are going to be voting to make the decision. I think it would heartening that it seems to be considered (by him at least) as a strong bid, rather than one that can be easily dismissed (like, unfortunately, Istanbul's earlier bids). At this stage of the race, then, I'd say it's a very important early endorsement.

As to his advice - well, every man and his dog will probably be giving advice over the next few years. It'll be up to the bid team whether to pay heed or not. Put it this way, I think every bid will always need some outside professionals to help as well. And, as has been said, if the bid team hasn't been leaving messages on Mike Lee's answering machine yet, they SHOULD be.

[DannyelBrazil]

So, what do people think? Are we talking early front-runner?

I don't know if Istanbul is an early front-runner, but for sure, I'd put Istanbul one step ahead the others, specially, because the financial crisis in the other countries bidding.

[deawebo]

So, what do people think? Are we talking early front-runner?

No, Rome was considered the early front runner. I rember back to may/june

[Sir Rols]

No, Rome was considered the early front runner. I rember back to may/june

Rome may have been perceived as a front runner in May, but that was before we had much of an idea what the final field is. I'm talking about now - and even that could change by next week when the race proper starts.

[deawebo]

Rome may have been perceived as a front runner in May, but that was before we had much of an idea what the final field is. I'm talking about now - and even that could change by next week when the race proper starts.

Touché! I think back in may it was a Rome vs Durban... Well now Istanbul is a bit ahead!! I will say: Istanbul, Madrid, Rome, Tokyo (in that order)

[Pure facts]

I think the important thing about this article is it's an IOC member talking, and possibly the first indication of how the Istanbul bid is starting to be received and perceived in the ranks of those who are going to be voting to make the decision. I think it would heartening that it seems to be considered (by him at least) as a strong bid, rather than one that can be easily dismissed (like, unfortunately, Istanbul's earlier bids). At this stage of the race, then, I'd say it's a very important early endorsement.

As to his advice - well, every man and his dog will probably be giving advice over the next few years. It'll be up to the bid team whether to pay heed or not. Put it this way, I think every bid will always need some outside professionals to help as well. And, as has been said, if the bid team hasn't been leaving messages on Mike Lee's answering machine yet, they SHOULD be.

Except he is not an IOC member, just a member of a commission.

[Sir Rols]

Except he is not an IOC member, just a member of a commission.

The very first line of the press report is wrong then.

[emre]

anyone knows any odding or bets website about 2020 race? there we can see an objective look at least for now who is leading and behind

and still no ıstanbul forum above shame on u mods

[barrack]

i think it's a bit soon to to track bets, seeing as the list of bidders isn't even final yet.

[fatixxx]

anyone knows any odding or bets website about 2020 race? there we can see an objective look at least for now who is leading and behind

and still no ıstanbul forum above shame on u mods

Emre .. I spoke/wrote PM to with GB-Mod .. he said that the subforum will be added begin september.

So lancing words like 'shame on you' .. it's not appropriate. We have to be patient for a few days to go.

regards

fatih

[fatixxx]

Why are members giving negative reputation points for a few modest sentences ?? ..

What did I wrote wrong. Please explain at least why you gave this negative rep point.

This handeling breaks my heart and also my engagement and interest to share something.

I deeply CONDEMN this behaviour !!

[baron-pierreIV]

Why are members giving negative reputation points for a few modest sentences ?? ..

What did I wrote wrong. Please explain at least why you gave this negative rep point.

This handeling breaks my heart and also my engagement and interest to share something.

I deeply CONDEMN this behaviour !!

Fatih, I neutralized the -1 by giving you a +1 there.

[emre]

Fatih, this was probably Emre who gave you the -1. He's VERY COCKY and impatient these days.

I neutralized his -1 by giving you a +1 there.

ahahhahah.... hey u become more cocky than me just read what he wrote and even dont know how to give a reputation to quotes here ..

am i impatient god need to make a conversation how patient im in my life

as a conc. its not me who gave -1 to what he means...

[baron-pierreIV]

ahahhahah.... hey u become more cocky than me just read what he wrote and even dont know how to give a reputation to quotes here ..

am i impatient god need to make a conversation how patient im in my life

as a conc. its not me who gave -1 to what he means...

Sorry emre, I thot it was u. I apologize.

[emre]

Sorry emre, I thot it was u. I apologize.

common .. no need to people are funny here they blame u what u think about and start a witch hunt which i really dont understand.

but thnx for your kindness .. its a gentle move

[Ace]

If they tell their story well (and please, NO YODELLERS or belly dnacers at your presentation), and they have sexy venues, and a sectarian gov't continues to rule, it might go to Istanbul.

I just fear that with the Army no longer in control of Turkey, if Istanbul wins the honor, and then more and more Islamic-leaning gov'ts come into power, they will start to renege on their universal promises (Israel, and women, etc.); and then the IOC will be pushed between a rock and a hard place--and they will to scramble for a replacement host with a year to go.

Took the words right out of my mouth. This is why I wouldn't but them as "Favorites" just yet.

[emre]

"everything for istanbul 2020..."

Several Turks in important positions at euro and world sport federations began to work for istanbuls 2020 candidature.

My link

[DannyelBrazil]

And how is the buzz in Turkey about the bid?

Is the people hopefull?

[emre]

And how is the buzz in Turkey about the bid?

Is the people hopefull?

lol we are having fun about it. many many jokes on the web and more coming, like the athletes of ethiopia disappears at the marathon and found in greece kidnapped and taken as a refugee, they dont pay the bills of gas so that the cauldrons gas is cut, the gypsys taken the athletes village and fight back not to get out ...etc

about hope... people do have hope. but need to be informed and as i guess they will start and adv. campaign both int and for turkey to inform about the olympics and candidature. many people here start to complain about probable traffic jam and cities infrastructural booming before the games and they all know its the last hope for saving Istanbul. they afraid of cannot handle the games but also saying it shall be the best ever if we really work on it... we turks a bit strange

the only nation that always underestimate their selves