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I just discovered the following news article in which Lula argues that the IOC must give Rio the Olympics in 2016. I understand that South America has never hosted the Games and I believe the Olympics need to visit new frontiers, but Lula seems to argue that the IOC "owes" Brazil. Personally, I found his tone of entitlement somewhat demanding and manipulative. He suggests that giving the Games to any other city would amount to some sort of social injustice. If I were an IOC member, I would not appreciate the lecture.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...W1FQjwD9ASG7J80

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I just discovered the following news article in which Lula argues that the IOC must give Rio the Olympics in 2016. I understand that South America has never hosted the Games and I believe the Olympics need to visit new frontiers, but Lula seems to argue that the IOC "owes" Brazil. Personally, I found his tone of entitlement somewhat demanding and manipulative. He suggests that giving the Games to any other city would amount to some sort of social injustice. If I were an IOC member, I would not appreciate the lecture.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...W1FQjwD9ASG7J80

I agree. I think the biggest challenge for Rio now is to hold their discipline and refrain from making statements like this that are more likely to annoy rather than win over IOC members.

Rio (like all the bidders) have to remember they're begging for a privilege, not demanding a right. The IOC won't take kindly to be told what they "must" do.

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I just discovered the following news article in which Lula argues that the IOC must give Rio the Olympics in 2016. I understand that South America has never hosted the Games and I believe the Olympics need to visit new frontiers, but Lula seems to argue that the IOC "owes" Brazil. Personally, I found his tone of entitlement somewhat demanding and manipulative. He suggests that giving the Games to any other city would amount to some sort of social injustice. If I were an IOC member, I would not appreciate the lecture.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...W1FQjwD9ASG7J80

If you were...you aren't!

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I agree. I think the biggest challenge for Rio now is to hold their discipline and refrain from making statements like this that are more likely to annoy rather than win over IOC members.

Rio (like all the bidders) have to remember they're begging for a privilege, not demanding a right. The IOC won't take kindly to be told what they "must" do.

So if Obama says that Chicago deserves the games that's fine!!!! kkkkkkkkkkkk...wake-up baby!

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I agree. I think the biggest challenge for Rio now is to hold their discipline and refrain from making statements like this that are more likely to annoy rather than win over IOC members.

Rio (like all the bidders) have to remember they're begging for a privilege, not demanding a right. The IOC won't take kindly to be told what they "must" do.

How many Whoopi Goldberbs we have here. They can preview what IOC members are thinking and feeling....leave me alone!

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I have never once heard Obama say Chicago "deserves" the Olympics. I have not heard anyone from Madrid or Tokyo say that either. It is true -- the Games are a privilege, not a right.

Lula seems to suggest that the IOC would be morally wrong to award the Olympics to any city other than Rio. No other city has ever said anything like that.

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I have never once heard Obama say Chicago "deserves" the Olympics. I have not heard anyone from Madrid or Tokyo say that either. It is true -- the Games are a privilege, not a right.

Lula seems to suggest that the IOC would be morally wrong to award the Olympics to any city other than Rio. No other city has ever said anything like that.

Next please....

Where is Baron to put some colors in this forum??!!

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This was always Brazil's downfall in any international setting. They are traditionally very over-confident in sports-related matters. It's not necessarily bad, it's just part of the culture. Look at the way gold medalists behave during victory ceremonies, the amount of pressure on national teams, etc. The IOC will ignore this ostentatious behaviour because that's what is to be expected with Brazilian organizers. I mean, nobody expects Tokyo organizers to be argumentative and "in your face", do they? Different people act different ways.

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I really think that Rio is going to blow it. They are celebrating to soon and things like this shouldn't look good in the eyes of the IOC. They don't "deserve" it just because they haven't had one before, the city that works the hardest and has the best presentation deserves it. They also don't "need" it. An Olympic Games is not a necessity. You may think that I'm just saying this because I'm American and am for Chicago, but while I would like Chicago to win, I believe that any of the other candidates are very qualified and would enjoy going to them all if I had the chance. I just think that in October Rio will not be named the host of the 2016 games.

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I just discovered the following news article in which Lula argues that the IOC must give Rio the Olympics in 2016. I understand that South America has never hosted the Games and I believe the Olympics need to visit new frontiers, but Lula seems to argue that the IOC "owes" Brazil. Personally, I found his tone of entitlement somewhat demanding and manipulative. He suggests that giving the Games to any other city would amount to some sort of social injustice. If I were an IOC member, I would not appreciate the lecture.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/articl...W1FQjwD9ASG7J80

I don´t think Lula is demading and manipulative.... I think he is trying to be persuasive <_<

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This was always Brazil's downfall in any international setting. They are traditionally very over-confident in sports-related matters. It's not necessarily bad, it's just part of the culture. Look at the way gold medalists behave during victory ceremonies, the amount of pressure on national teams, etc. The IOC will ignore this ostentatious behaviour because that's what is to be expected with Brazilian organizers. I mean, nobody expects Tokyo organizers to be argumentative and "in your face", do they? Different people act different ways.

I do see that...it is good to be over-confident in sports-related matters, better than being over confident in "other issues" that we know very well

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I really think that Rio is going to blow it. They are celebrating to soon and things like this shouldn't look good in the eyes of the IOC. They don't "deserve" it just because they haven't had one before, the city that works the hardest and has the best presentation deserves it. They also don't "need" it. An Olympic Games is not a necessity. You may think that I'm just saying this because I'm American and am for Chicago, but while I would like Chicago to win, I believe that any of the other candidates are very qualified and would enjoy going to them all if I had the chance. I just think that in October Rio will not be named the host of the 2016 games.

Guys...another Whoopi :(

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I don´t think Lula is demading and manipulative.... I think he is trying to be persuasive <_<

Adrian, I think Lula probably is trying to be persuasive, but I don't think that's the way it comes across. It sounds as if he is telling the IOC they have a moral obligation to vote for Rio.

As for the argument that this is just the "Brazilian way", I'm not sure that's much justification. It isn't okay for Americans to be obnoxious and self-centered (even though far too many of us are). Why should it be okay for Brazil to say, "you owe it to us"? Personally, I think it's a wonderful compliment to the Japanese to say that we always expect them to be gracious and polite. That SHOULD count for something.

Part of the reason Lula's tone bothers me is that Chicago 2016 and the USOC are working SO HARD to improve their relationships with the international community. They are making it a priority to communicate with grace and humility.

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I don´t think Lula is demading and manipulative.... I think he is trying to be persuasive <_<

Of course that's it, Adrian... that's the way Lula speaks... he is looking for a new order, a differente path for international relations, one that include developing countries such as Brazil, Russia, China, India, South Africa.... and it also applies in this campaign for Rio. Simple as that.

People here are trying to find a "brick in the wall" of Rio...

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Woohoo! I LOVE IT! Let Lula "annoy" IOC members with his tone of "entitlement" (along with his blue-eyed bankers) comments. Cause it's worked so well in the past!

i.e. Paris '92 "we are couterbein's Hometown - so give it to us" - Athens '96 "we are the birth place of the Olympics - so we demand you give us the centennial" & Rome 2004 "we are better & can do better than Athens".

Yaaayyyy! Keep it up Lula! ;)

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Lula always made this kind of polemic speech (Don't you remember the blue-eyed white bankers?)

It's his way of do politics... He got presidency with this statements, got international respect saying those things and even Obamas admires him...

So let Lula say their thoughts (wrong or not)...

And please, don't be hyprocrite to be surprised...

Let's be honest once here...

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Even Lula being a loose canon, he didn't say that. He said that "Brazil needs this Olympics more than other countries". He completes his statement by reminding that Brazil is the only country among the 10 largest economies to have never hosted it and by using his endless rich vs poor speech. It's really Lula being himself. He built his international image by being a defender of the underdeveloped world and he is just resonating this. It's coherent with every speech he's made in international forums since he became president in 2003.

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Even Lula being a loose canon, he didn't say that. He said that "Brazil needs this Olympics more than other countries". He completes his statement by reminding that Brazil is the only country among the 10 largest economies to have never hosted it and by using his endless rich vs poor speech. It's really Lula being himself. He built his international image by being a defender of the underdeveloped world and he is just resonating this. It's coherent with every speech he's made in international forums since he became president in 2003.

Thanks Aluz... it's nice to see a smart person here.

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