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If Rio is so great, why was it removed as the capital of Brazil in 1960?

Summer Olympic Games Sites

1896 - Athens, Greece

1900 - Paris, France

1904 - St. Louis, United States

1908 - London, United Kingdom

1912 - Stockholm, Sweden

1920 - Antwerp, Belgium*

1924 - Paris, France

1928 - Amsterdam, Netherlands

1932 - Los Angeles, United States

1936 - Berlin, Germany

1948 - London, United Kingdom*

1952 - Helsinki, Finland

1956 - Melbourne, Australia

1960 - Rome, Italy

1964 - Tokyo, Japan

1968 - Mexico City, Mexico

1972 - Munich, West Germany (now Germany)

1976 - Montreal, Canada

1980 - Moscow, U.S.S.R. (now Russia)

1984 - Los Angeles, United States

1988 - Seoul, South Korea

1992 - Barcelona, Spain

1996 - Atlanta, United States

2000 - Sydney, Australia

2004 - Athens, Greece

2008 - Beijing, China

2012 - London, United Kingdom

From those the following are not capitals

1904 - St. Louis, United States

1920 - Antwerp, Belgium

1932 - Los Angeles, United States

1956 - Melbourne, Australia

1972 - Munich, West Germany (now Germany)

1976 - Montreal, Canada

1984 - Los Angeles, United States

1992 - Barcelona, Spain

1996 - Atlanta, United States

2000 - Sydney, Australia

Don't forget, like USA and Australia, Brazil is a continenetal country, the capital of those countries ARE NOT the main city, Brasilia have 2,6 milions people residing in the city and 3,5 millions in the Metropolitan Area, Rio de Janeiro have 6,2 millions habitants and 12,4 millins in metropolitan area,in Washington and Canberra we have the same example...so, it's a complete invalid point

:huh:

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Lost Capital Status

If Rio is so great, why was it removed as the capital of Brazil in 1960?

Don't forget, like USA and Australia, Brazil is a continenetal country, the capital of those countries ARE NOT the main city, Brasilia have 2,6 milions people residing in the city and 3,5 millions in the Metropolitan Area, Rio de Janeiro have 6,2 millions habitants and 12,4 millins in metropolitan area,in Washington and Canberra we have the same example...so, it's a complete invalid point

:huh:

Just to refresh people's mind:

Since Brazil became Independent, in 1822, it was a question of national development strategy to remove the capital to the heart of the country, far away from the shore. That was what happened. And that is all about that.

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If Rio is so great, why was it removed as the capital of Brazil in 1960?

Summer Olympic Games Sites

1896 - Athens, Greece

1900 - Paris, France

1904 - St. Louis, United States

1908 - London, United Kingdom

1912 - Stockholm, Sweden

1920 - Antwerp, Belgium*

1924 - Paris, France

1928 - Amsterdam, Netherlands

1932 - Los Angeles, United States

1936 - Berlin, Germany

1948 - London, United Kingdom*

1952 - Helsinki, Finland

1956 - Melbourne, Australia

1960 - Rome, Italy

1964 - Tokyo, Japan

1968 - Mexico City, Mexico

1972 - Munich, West Germany (now Germany)

1976 - Montreal, Canada

1980 - Moscow, U.S.S.R. (now Russia)

1984 - Los Angeles, United States

1988 - Seoul, South Korea

1992 - Barcelona, Spain

1996 - Atlanta, United States

2000 - Sydney, Australia

2004 - Athens, Greece

2008 - Beijing, China

2012 - London, United Kingdom

From those the following are not capitals

1904 - St. Louis, United States

1920 - Antwerp, Belgium

1932 - Los Angeles, United States

1956 - Melbourne, Australia

1972 - Munich, West Germany (now Germany)

1976 - Montreal, Canada

1984 - Los Angeles, United States

1992 - Barcelona, Spain

1996 - Atlanta, United States

2000 - Sydney, Australia

Don't forget, like USA and Australia, Brazil is a continenetal country, the capital of those countries ARE NOT the main city, Brasilia have 2,6 milions people residing in the city and 3,5 millions in the Metropolitan Area, Rio de Janeiro have 6,2 millions habitants and 12,4 millins in metropolitan area,in Washington and Canberra we have the same example...so, it's a complete invalid point

:huh:

Yeah Andre... but they don't know that... it's a very complex thought.......

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Now they will say that a country with the name becoming in 'Bra' and ending in 'Zil' should not host... ^_^

Or, people will prefer other bids because, like the Brazilians on here, they too want to support the one they like the most!

The biggest talking point against Brazil is that relative to the other bids, it provides more risks! Will the IOC go for Rio? Only time will tell!

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If Rio is so great, why was it removed as the capital of Brazil in 1960?

Can someone show more despair?

Rio EC report was sugar coated.

Well, people were waiting Rio's bid to be destroyed after the report. But it didn't happened because I believe the IOC saw the true Rio de Janeiro. Just because the report didn't confirm our doubts, concerns (and prejudices) it doesn't mean the report was biased, does it? We should be careful not to be too attached to our prejudices

Rio continued to be the center of the Brazilian culture

Ehr... Rio continued to be the center of Carioca culture, which is far far far from being a synthesis of the Brazilian cultures. Foreigners will have a sample of Brazilian Cultures (northeastern, pernambucana, baiana, paraense, caipira, gaúcha...) and carioca of course in 2014 and maybe 2016. :)

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Or, people will prefer other bids because, like the Brazilians on here, they too want to support the one they like the most!

The biggest talking point against Brazil is that relative to the other bids, it provides more risks! Will the IOC go for Rio? Only time will tell!

Where is the "worst technical bid" in your post?

Ah... risks... found it, sorry...

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You mean just like your flawless aruements like Tokyo is too boring or the US has hosted too many games ?

"Tokyo is too boring" is not an argument it's a joke, and Tokyo is a strong contender and a great city to be choose... It was a joke!!!!!

"Too many times in USA" is a valid argument as Brazil 2014-Rio 2016 argument...

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"Tokyo is too boring" is not an argument it's a joke, and Tokyo is a strong contender and a great city to be choose... It was a joke!!!!!

"Too many times in USA" is a valid argument as Brazil 2014-Rio 2016 argument...

Danny, your jokes need some work to compete with Barons!!!! :lol: I'll give it 3 out of 10 Danny but a big gold star for effort!!!

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The lost capital status is probably the dumbest thing ever. Even if there was something wrong with Rio at the time, do you really think the government would build a whole city out of the blue just to replace it? I mean, come on.

About the risk thing, I believe when people comment on "the worst technical bid", they are just mentioning some of the disadvantages that Rio has compared with the other bids. We do have state of the art venues already in place that requires little work to stage competions in 2016, but we can't deny we have a terrible mass transport system (Rio's subway is 47 km long, with 33 stations against Tokyo's 282, Chicago's 144 and Madrid's 231 stations). Lucky for us, and our bid, all of this disadvantages can be overcome with some decent amount of work. ^_^

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The lost capital status is probably the dumbest thing ever. Even if there was something wrong with Rio at the time, do you really think the government would build a whole city out of the blue just to replace it? I mean, come on.

About the risk thing, I believe when people comment on "the worst technical bid", they are just mentioning some of the disadvantages that Rio has compared with the other bids. We do have state of the art venues already in place that requires little work to stage competions in 2016, but we can't deny we have a terrible mass transport system (Rio's subway is 47 km long, with 33 stations against Tokyo's 282, Chicago's 144 and Madrid's 231 stations). Lucky for us, and our bid, all of this disadvantages can be overcome with some decent amount of work. ^_^

Very sensible post.

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Or, people will prefer other bids because, like the Brazilians on here, they too want to support the one they like the most!

The biggest talking point against Brazil is that relative to the other bids, it provides more risks! Will the IOC go for Rio? Only time will tell!

Well Absolutely wrong in regards to risk. Chicago 2016 is actually the most risky . You have a Country with the United States that is the only country in the world to Abandon an Olympics Hosting .

241,153 signatures in the State of Illinois could have the Chicago 2016 games cut off of Government funding this year if the citizens became that concerned. Chicago is what 6 million people ?

If you have a case of tripling the cost from original estimate for Chicago 2016 like you have with London 2012 then the games would be thrown back to Lausanne. Brazil , Japan or Spain don't seem to have that type of Democracy.

It was not only Denver 1976 that had this happen for the Winter Games but the State of California had the very same thing occur with LA 84 a referendum stopped state funding and the IOC had no choice but to allow no holds bar private funding resulting the in Model the Olympics is based on today for revenues .

Jim jones

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FALSE, jj. For 1908, Rome withdrew its hosting duty because of the eruption of Vesuvius. So THEY WITHDREW as well and that was London's first fallback tour.

I thought the greatest Vesuvius eruption was in 79 a.C. - before the Modern Games Era - and was locatede close to Naples. But it doesn't matter, does it?

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From Wiki:

Vesuvius' Eruptions in the 20th century

The eruption of 1906 was particularly destructive, killing over 100 people and ejecting the most lava ever recorded from a Vesuvian eruption

so that was the Italian gov't primary business then obviously. And the 1908 Olympics just had to wait. Of course, Rome eventually hosted some 52 years later!!

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so that was the Italian gov't primary business then obviously. And the 1908 Olympics just had to wait. Of course, Rome eventually hosted some 52 years later!!

Thank You, Sir. I thought you meant the greatest one. You are always right, Sir.

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