Raphael Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 President Sarkozy announced today in Brasília, during the celebration of the Brazilian Indepence Day, that France supports Rio de Janeiro's bid for the 2016 Olympic Games. He also asked Brazil to back France's proposal to host the 2018 winter games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted September 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Sorry, Independence Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 France, loser in the last round, backs Rio!! Beautiful!! Fantastic!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 France, loser in the last round, backs Rio!!Beautiful!! Fantastic!! Well, USA was a loser last round too... So Chicago....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Well, USA was a loser last round too... So Chicago....................... Except France DIDN'T back it. Again, you CAN'T see the differences in these races where those matter. Go to the back of the class, Danny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Except France DIDN'T back it. Again, you CAN'T see the differences in these races where those matter. Go to the back of the class, Danny. You americans have something against France that I really didn't get yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Except France DIDN'T back it. Was it ever likely to with Paris in the running? I mean, that'd be like the Queen predicting a Paris victory whilst London was bidding.....hold on a second, that actually happened didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted September 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 Time passes, things change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim jones Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Well, USA was a loser last round too... So Chicago....................... Actually it was worse for the USA Danny the US held with tradition for 2012 not even getting to the final round of voting and did a bit better then most only going to the second round out of four rounds. The Last two round for 2012 was a choice of three European capital cities . Paris, Madrid and London. So for Chicago what will it be ? They will go to the last round vs Rio with Madrid out in round one and Tokyo out in round Two . Jim jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Actually it was worse for the USA Danny the US held with tradition for 2012 not even getting to the final round of voting and did a bit better then most only going to the second round out of four rounds. The Last two round for 2012 was a choice of three European capital cities . Paris, Madrid and London. So for Chicago what will it be ? They will go to the last round vs Rio with Madrid out in round one and Tokyo out in round Two . Jim jones You guys can call me crazy... But I still think Rio can win in FIRST round... Call me crazy, I know it's very very very very hard to happen, but it's my opinion!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 You guys can call me crazy...But I still think Rio can win in FIRST round... Call me crazy, I know it's very very very very hard to happen, but it's my opinion!!! Calling Patsy Kline... Crazy, crazy for feelin' blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted September 14, 2009 Report Share Posted September 14, 2009 Calling Patsy Kline... Crazy, crazy for feelin' blue LOL... I've told here before... This is not the Olympic Idol... and I'm a bad singer... (Maybe I'm one of those "bad singers" in Rio promotional video) LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted September 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Everything is possible. I don't know whether President Sarcozy is just trying to look friendly to Brazil in a very important moment of Brazil-France commercial relation or being honest in his words. If the second possibility is the correct one, it remains the doubt: will French voters be influenced by Sarcozy. Another question, what kind of support outside its boundaries France can give Brazil? Any influence in Europe or Africa? I think supporting Rio is good for any possible European bidding country, but Spain. Having the games outside Europe in 2016 is vital for any future European bid. Paris included. If the games happen in a frontier country in 2016 - and this is the case if Rio is chosen - and this frontier being the South American Continent - then that will be easier to have them back in Europe by 2020/2024. Inside Europe, Rio de Janeiro's fate is linked to Madrid's. If Madrid succeeds, Rio fails, and vice-versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluz Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Everything is possible. I don't know whether President Sarcozy is just trying to look friendly to Brazil in a very important moment of Brazil-France commercial relation or being honest in his words. If the second possibility is the correct one, it remains the doubt: will French voters be influenced by Sarcozy. Another question, what kind of support outside its boundaries France can give Brazil? Any influence in Europe or Africa? I think supporting Rio is good for any possible European bidding country, but Spain. Having the games outside Europe in 2016 is vital for any future European bid. Paris included. If the games happen in a frontier country in 2016 - and this is the case if Rio is chosen - and this frontier being the South American Continent - then that will be easier to have them back in Europe by 2020/2024. Inside Europe, Rio de Janeiro's fate is linked to Madrid's. If Madrid succeeds, Rio fails, and vice-versa. Let's face it, it is not Europe's turn. If it was, you would see a bunch of major European cities on the race, Paris included. Just analysing geopolitics, I think Rio will have a strong support from European NOC leaders. Africa may be split since there is the dual effect of postponing a South African Olympics, despite strengthening new frontiers. Asia is a big question mark for me, while Latam countries might be divided, with the majority supporting Rio. But the IOC is a pretty diverse group with people from different backgrounds and defending different interests, so it is tough to predict without doing an analysis on each voter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 You guys can call me crazy...But I still think Rio can win in FIRST round... Call me crazy, I know it's very very very very hard to happen, but it's my opinion!!! That IS crazy. The first round might be the closest rounds in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 That IS crazy. The first round might be the closest rounds in my opinion. Actually, Soaring, a lot of the overconfidence Rio is showing at this stage is pretty much where Paris was 4 years ago...so I would go along with what ever the Cariocas psot, think and feel. History repeats itself most times anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cauê Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Here is the signature of Baron... Baron is desperate... I will create the group nicknamed "We are desperate" for Baron and others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 Let's face it, it is not Europe's turn. If it was, you would see a bunch of major European cities on the race, Paris included. Just analysing geopolitics, I think Rio will have a strong support from European NOC leaders. Africa may be split since there is the dual effect of postponing a South African Olympics, despite strengthening new frontiers. Asia is a big question mark for me, while Latam countries might be divided, with the majority supporting Rio.But the IOC is a pretty diverse group with people from different backgrounds and defending different interests, so it is tough to predict without doing an analysis on each voter. Perfect!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Actually, Soaring, a lot of the overconfidence Rio is showing at this stage is pretty much where Paris was 4 years ago...so I would go along with what ever the Cariocas psot, think and feel. History repeats itself most times anyway. No, Baron, based in everything here I'm SURE Rio will lose... Don't call me overconfident in a Rio victory, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Posted September 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 Let's face it, it is not Europe's turn. If it was, you would see a bunch of major European cities on the race, Paris included. Just analysing geopolitics, I think Rio will have a strong support from European NOC leaders. Africa may be split since there is the dual effect of postponing a South African Olympics, despite strengthening new frontiers. Asia is a big question mark for me, while Latam countries might be divided, with the majority supporting Rio.But the IOC is a pretty diverse group with people from different backgrounds and defending different interests, so it is tough to predict without doing an analysis on each voter. Aluz, I agree, it's not Europe turn. If it happens Madrid to be chosen, that will be the whole proccess the greatest surprise. I focused my concer much more on Sarcozy - and France, of course - influence on Europe voters. Question is what they can do to support Rio? I agree - in fact I also said this - Sapin will not have support form European countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Iredale Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Surely vote-trading ("we'll vote vote for you if you vote for us") would lose bids votes from IOC members of the rival countries in the opposite respective bid campaigns? So if France votes Brazil, so that Brazil votes France... surely that would lose Brazil the votes from members in Germany, Korea, Switzerland etc and France the votes from member in USA, Japan and Spain, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 That IS crazy. The first round might be the closest rounds in my opinion. Let me be crazy... Be crazy is funny... Baron is funny... I can be crazy... Drems are made to be dreamed... So respect my dreams... LOL (I know it's almost impossible... almost... LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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