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I think all of this will be negative for the Chicago's bid, as IOC members will think that Amercian people believed they could be corrupted again and IOC will not like that people laugh at them.....

It's like, in 2005, France voting against the EU constitution or President Chirac having rude word against some foreign foods.....

So, Go Rio.... it would be your turn to host !

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I think the same. The offence isn't only about Rio. This NBC episode is involving the Belgians (including IOC president), the IOC name, the IOC integrity. Launching this "fictional episode" involving these appropriate names at an appropriate time definitively don't help an american bid. In a race so tight like this, those small thisgs can make the diference. And the americans are doing everything to trash Chicago hopes. The USOC gafes, the No Games Chicago (that achieve their objective, they are in the IOC report) and now that episode. I just have to say thank you.

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I think the same. The offence isn't only about Rio. This NBC episode is involving the Belgians (including IOC president), the IOC name, the IOC integrity. Launching this "fictional episode" involving these appropriate names at an appropriate time definitively don't help an american bid. In a race so tight like this, those small thisgs can make the diference. And the americans are doing everything to trash Chicago hopes. The USOC gafes, the No Games Chicago (that achieve their objective, they are in the IOC report) and now that episode. I just have to say thank you.

well, there you go. So...what's all the crying about??

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Chicago has "corrupt themed" shows all the time in the media here. It is just the nature of drama television. I do agree that it was a bit stupid on NBC's part to depict the IOC as "corrupt"

I don't think the full blame should be placed on NBC. These shows are produced by other production companies per their contract w/ NBC. AND I am sure this passed the legal guardians of both the production company (I don't know whodoes it and am not jazzed to find out who it is) and NBC...and so long as they have disclaimer in front, then they are in the clear.

But then there are the 'perception' problems that follow like what is happening now...

But I am sure the mor savvy IOC members can separate the real from the fictional, unless...

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If any TV for any other country made an episode against Chicago bid, probably Americans would make a big buzz...

But if it's an American TV, that's ok...

It would not be the same.

I like USA very much, but sometimes they are more "equal" than the other...

Can we bring this ridiculous discussion about a U.S. TV fictional dramas produced for an independent TV network to a close?

Or should we expand this discussion to a country's responsibility for other TV shows produced for their audiences?

http://www.suntimes.com/news/world/1711743...razil12.article

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/11/w...t_n_257061.html

It's not as though Chicago isn't already known for a fictionalized image:

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There are a whole group of dramas that purposely use real organizations and real situations to create fictional story lines.

These shows fictionalize wars, hijackings, serial killers, kidnappings, etc.--all of which have very victims who probably aren't anywhere near ready to see their stories broadcast to millions. U.S. broadcasters typically don't vet every storyline and concept in a series and typically don't veto broadcast to a finished episode. Fiction is allowed a very broad range in the U.S. and is allowed to offend without being illegal. It's part of our country's foundation to allow people to create and tell the stories that they want to tell. TV and movie producers often do not even inform their subjects that they are making a show or movie based on them:

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U.S. audiences don't look to a fictional TV drama for news or information about real situations--CSI has made people more aware of crime scene procedures but people realize the stories and people are not real. Pretty close to no one made any note of this episode in the U.S. back in June so it had very close to no effect at all here.

This is becoming a Sarah Palin-level discussion:

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"I can see Russia from my house"

CHItown '16

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Brazil is in "fair play" in this race, I'm proud of our campaign. This episode of Law & Order of American TV was unfortunate. Ugly, very ugly ...

Unfortunate, nothing more. And I think Chicago supporters should be proud of their fair campaign as well.

In fact, I don't think a single arrow has been fired over the barracades in this race between the bid teams. It's been kind of dull compared to 2012 :lol:

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Unfortunate, nothing more. And I think Chicago supporters should be proud of their fair campaign as well.

In fact, I don't think a single arrow has been fired over the barracades in this race between the bid teams. It's been kind of dull compared to 2012 :lol:

Well, there was one earlier when Samaranch, Jr., claimed that it was time to return the Olympics to a "Latin" host, i.e., Madrid) -- forgetting that Rio can also lay claim to the title. That tact went up in smoke realy quickly too.

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Chicago 2016 has nothing linked to this Law and Order case...

I don't think it can make a big difference at all...

Rio 2016--Please Explain:

http://www.gamesbids.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14949

President Sarkozy announced today in Brasília, during the celebration of the Brazilian Indepence Day, that France supports Rio de Janeiro's bid for the 2016 Olympic Games. He also asked Brazil to back France's proposal to host the 2018 winter games.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wo...0,5843260.story

Stepping up an aggressive plan to fortify the defense of its valuable natural resources, Brazil said Monday that it had entered into a billion-dollar-plus agreement to buy 36 French fighter jets.

The deal was announced in a statement issued by Presidents Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva of Brazil and Nicolas Sarkozy of France, who together took part in Brazil's Independence Day ceremonies in Brasilia. The precise value of the aircraft sale was not released pending final agreement on the terms but observers estimate its value at more than $2 billon.

We've seen this in the U.S. since early 2008 in our political process--one side claims bias from media outlets and gain sympathy while trying to discourage and distract coverage of issues of real concern. McCain-Palin '08 did this repeatedly during the 2008 Presidential Campaign:

* The cancellation of the first day of the Republican Party Convention to "raise donations" to prepare for an incoming hurricane

* The insistence on delay of the first debate because of the severity of the financial crisis

* The near creation of an international conflict between the U.S. and Russia over Georgia ("We are all Georgians!")

* The repeated insistence that Gov. Palin's "executive experience" overshadowed concerns about her actual record and capabilities

And the Republican Party continues to do this in 2009:

* The "teabag" protests against the "creeping socialism" indicated by the expiration of a 5% tax cut on the top earners

* The focus on the years-old "wise Latina" comment of an exceptionally qualified Supreme Court nominee

* The encouragement of confusion between Medicare (a U.S. Federal government supported and funded program) and federally funded health care ("Keep the government's hands off of my Medicare!")

What can a Chicago team do to counter Republican Party strategy?

October 2009???

As a long-time resident of the City of Chicago, a property owner, and a constituent of the City Council of Chicago, I have every confidence in Pat Ryan and his team's pledge of accountability and transparency and in the city's oversight of the future Chicago Organizing Committee. And they will have a direct line to the Oval Office as they plan for and build the venues for the 2016 Olympic Games. And they will have my government's full support for building the infrastructure needed and to provide the security capabilities required by the world's premier event. However, I trust you to vote on the capability of the Chicago 2016 team to organize and present an excellent Games in 2016.
As the world's largest economy, the businesses of the United States and the federal government of the United States sign billions of dollars of contracts with companies and government around the world. These contracts are signed based on the merits of the deal and the needs of the parties involved.

During the vote this afternoon, I trust that none of you will cast a ballot are based on any past, present, or expected deals with my country and that your vote will reflect your assessment of the best city for the 2016 Olympics. I hope you will cast your ballot this afternoon for Chicago.

CHItown '16

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What should Rio explain?

Money?

Billion dollars is a common number in Brazil in spents...

Jets?

Brazil need to remodelate its Armed Forces... No big deal...

Sarkozy support?

Sarkozy supports what he wants to support. No doubts he's "supporting" Rio because the military agreement...

As I know the ballot is secret, French IOC members can vote in what they want to... Noboby will never know...

2018 Winter Games Brazilian Support?

Brazil can support any bid based in any interest... And Brazilian NOC will vote in secret ballot too... So...

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What should Rio explain?

Money?

Billion dollars is a common number in Brazil in spents...

Jets?

Brazil need to remodelate its Armed Forces... No big deal...

Sarkozy support?

Sarkozy supports what he wants to support. No doubts he's "supporting" Rio because the military agreement...

As I know the ballot is secret, French IOC members can vote in what they want to... Noboby will never know...

2018 Winter Games Brazilian Support?

Brazil can support any bid based in any interest... And Brazilian NOC will vote in secret ballot too... So...

Your words, dannyel:

Baron, don't play the child here...

We know difference between fictional and real world...

"Brazilians killings people because olympics" are obviously fictional... Nobody made a mess with this...

The real fact is NBC was non-sense making a fictional based in corruption inside IOC...

Repeat: It's at least, non-sense...

I hope that the voting IOC members will hold themselves to a standard of avoiding corruption and perceptions of corruption.

From the original post:

confessed that he committed the crime after striking a deal with the Brazilian authorities. After all, if the river was the host city chosen, the killer would be responsible for the security of the Games.

"For the episode of the series appears in the U.S. by USA Network and the AXN channel in Brazil, which used the name of the Brazilian candidacy to the Olympics, the 2016 Rio committee expresses its condemnation of the irresponsible and reckless use of the image of the Brazilian candidate, lying on the campaign to host the 2016 Olympic Games. The committee based its action in this dispute in ethics, integrity and full respect for their competitors, "he wrote in a note to Rio in 2016.

Interesting that this arises with a French leader exerting pressure on French IOC members for a military deal during a competition in Denmark:

from Shakespeare's Hamlet:

And in the cup an union shall he throw,

Richer than that which four successive kings

In Denmark's crown have worn. Give me the cups;

And let the kettle to the trumpet speak,

The trumpet to the cannoneer without,

The cannons to the heavens, the heavens to earth,

'Now the king dunks to Hamlet.' Come, begin:

And you, the judges, bear a wary eye.

I bid thee adieu.

CHItown '16

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Your words, dannyel:

I hope that the voting IOC members will hold themselves to a standard of avoiding corruption and perceptions of corruption.

From the original post:

Interesting that this arises with a French leader exerting pressure on French IOC members for a military deal during a competition in Denmark:

from Shakespeare's Hamlet:

I bid thee adieu.

It applies so well for the USOC, isn't it? Could you imagine the pressure that was made on the IOC member? It's really awful... bad days those on the time Salt Lake City was chosen!

CHItown '16

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It applies so well for the USOC, isn't it? Could you imagine the pressure that was made on the IOC member? It's really awful... bad days those on the time Salt Lake City was chosen!

I don't follow.

The Salt Lake City bid (and its competitors at the time) basically was involved in a bidding war for IOC votes (Who could offer the most to secure particular IOC members' votes?) USOC members couldn't vote for Salt Lake as far as I understand. And, once the US realized what Salt Lake and its competitors did, the US sparked the IOC to limit contact between voter members and bidding cities. This is well documented all over GamesBids and in just about every story about the 2002 Winter Olympic bid and the bids since then. The 2002 campaign is largely the reason (for good and bad) that much of the bid process is what it is today.

The end-round play of Billion Dollar Contracts to President to President to IOC member is unexpected.

And is at a somewhat different scale than providing college scholarships, free travel, and gift bags, among a few other reported gifts. Or, for that matter, at a different scale than a largely unexceptional episode of a fictional TV show.

Shakespeare's Hamlet:

There is a play to-night before the king;

One scene of it comes near the circumstance

Which I have told thee of my father's death:

I prithee, when thou seest that act afoot,

Even with the very comment of thy soul

Observe mine uncle: if his occulted guilt

Do not itself unkennel in one speech,

It is a damned ghost that we have seen,

And my imaginations are as foul

As Vulcan's stithy. Give him heedful note;

For I mine eyes will rivet to his face,

And after we will both our judgments join

In censure of his seeming.

CHItown '16

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Globoesporte.com in Brazil says a Rio 2016 statement condemned the "irresponsible and reckless use of the image of the Brazilian candidate, who is on the campaign to host the games."
Rio’s Mayor Eduardo Paes called the show “ridiculous and pathetic” when he spoke to O Globo. He told the newspaper that it could even damage IOC members whose work is completely transparent in relation to the election – and he said it may hinder the U.S. application (for the 2016 Olympics) and strengthen Rio’s campaign.

Any chance Rio 2016 and the Mayor would retract this statement? Clearly, the work and influence of President to President to IOC member isn't as transparent as they are claiming.

CHItown '16

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