Faster Posted October 6, 2009 Report Posted October 6, 2009 It's the Olympics. When the host site is a mere few hours away from nearly every citizen in the country, the masses will be there. The people will be inspired by the festive spirit surrounding the Games. This isn't the Curling Championships. Of course past winter sport events like the one earlier this year are going to draw a lesser crowd in Korea than Europe, would you expect anything else? (Of course, it doesn't help when the Curling Championships coincide with the World Baseball Classic, which IS a huge deal in Korea) But package curling with the Olympics, and you have a great turnout. And weather can be unpredictable in any part of the world. So the area surrounding PC was unlucky with snowfall last winter. As I recall, Innsbruck suffered from a lack of snowfall when they hosted the '64 Games. For all we know, nearby Munich could suffer the same fate in any given year.It's not just about what host can provide the best crowds, because if that were the case, then I'd agree that the Games should never leave Europe and North America. But part of the Olympic movement is to spread the Games to different parts of the world, and the Winter Games have continued to be recycled amongst Europe/NA time and time again. Conditions = snow conditions, ice conditions not weather. The courses for the biathlon world championship where extremely poorly made and groomed and the ice at the curling world championships was terrible. The Winter Olympics have only gone to two countries that lack. Pyeongchang is too small and too remote for the modern Winter Olympics. If enough cities bid (Harbin, Zaragova, Denver, Annecy, Munich, Aomori, Almaty, pretty much any 4 of those) they might not even make the shortlist. If Korea wants to host the Winter Olympics Chuncheon is going to be the best bet, its much larger and doesn't have some of the problems PC has. And the Winter Olympics have only been held by 1 non-traditional Winter Sports country, Sarajevo. There is a definite order of things and Korea does not have the first part.
skicross Posted October 6, 2009 Report Posted October 6, 2009 It is very likely that Zaragoza bids. The city has the support of the Aragonese Governement and the Spanish Olympic Committee has said today that would also support the bid. There is a meeting this Thursday, we may know it then...
Faster Posted October 6, 2009 Report Posted October 6, 2009 Btw about being a hypocrite. I do not have problems with a Spanish bid because of 1 very important difference between Korea and Spain, Spain's proximity to major winter sports (France, Germany, Italy, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Russia) means that a lot more foreigners will travel meaning there needs to be less domestic support. Also Spain has a better history of sporting major events then Korea.
Westfale Posted October 6, 2009 Report Posted October 6, 2009 Oh no, not Spain! Three European nations against one from Asia. PC has it in its bag! Why are nations bidding for sports events, where they have no tradition and no one really cares for the sport in these nations? Germany doesnt bid for a Rugby- or Cricket World Cup either. New list: 1. PC 2. Saragossa (conciliation prize) 3. Munich 4. Annecy
Citius Altius Fortius Posted October 6, 2009 Report Posted October 6, 2009 I still think that Harbin will be the favourite, when the city bids...
skicross Posted October 6, 2009 Report Posted October 6, 2009 I think that Munich is the favorite as this stage. Zaragoza won't be ahead of Munich.
fisher Posted October 7, 2009 Report Posted October 7, 2009 I get the strangest feeling that Pyeongchang is becoming the Winter Olympics Equivalent of Istanbul.... Munich is the early favourite for me, it has an appeal that is similar to Vancouver... interest in PC seemed to peak in 2010, it seems like the more that you learn about it, the less that you want it. I never got swept up in the excitement for it, I actually favoured Sochi over it too. Too bad, because it would be cool to have another Asian host. Good luck PC, cause I think you are going to need it.
Sir Rols Posted October 7, 2009 Report Posted October 7, 2009 I get the strangest feeling that Pyeongchang is becoming the Winter Olympics Equivalent of Istanbul.... And people say the unofficial continental rotation will favour it - though its already had two bids with the advantage of continental rotation to help it.
thatsnotmypuppy Posted October 7, 2009 Report Posted October 7, 2009 I have all my fingers crossed Skicross - your project looked very professional and sound.
Troupe Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 The mayor of Zaragoza has announced they won't bid until 2022 because of the inconvenience of continental rotation, giving what has happened to Madrid as an example. I wonder what he will say if Munich wins.
skicross Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 Yes, finally Zaragoza won't bid for the 2018 WOG and obviously that reason is the "official" one, the one for the Media. When I feel it is the time, I will try to explain the whole story.
Troupe Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 Yes, finally Zaragoza won't bid for the 2018 WOG and obviously that reason is the "official" one, the one for the Media. When I feel it is the time, I will try to explain the whole story. The reason is Madrid? I'm looking forward to your explanation, when you feel is the right time.
Citius Altius Fortius Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 I think it is a pitty that Zaragoza doesn't bid - I even think more and more cities won't bid in future, when they think the "rotation" and the "white spot" policy by the IOC will make a bid futile...
Kenadian Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 Yes, but for the Winter Games, the so-called "white spots" need to have some other white spots: snow.
Citius Altius Fortius Posted October 8, 2009 Report Posted October 8, 2009 Yes, but for the Winter Games, the so-called "white spots" need to have some other white spots: snow. lol - good pun!
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