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Rio 2016 accommodation offering counts 52 new hotels

Contracts represent a guarantee of 4,577 additional rooms for use during the 2016 Games

The Rio de Janeiro bid to host the 2016 Olympic and Paralympic Games has guaranteed that it will provide quality accommodation for the Olympic and Paralympic Families and media across both events. Since the submission of the Candidature File – including a guarantee of 40,000 rooms as required by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) - the number of hotels committed to the project does not stop growing. Since February 2009, 52 new hotels have confirmed their support for the bid, adding a further 4,577 available rooms in Rio de Janeiro and the cities which will host football matches (São Paulo, Salvador, Belo Horizonte and Brasilia) for guests of the Games.

In its Candidature File, Rio 2016 exceeded IOC requirements and the ongoing expressions of support since this submission have been very encouraging for the Bid Committee. "Accommodation is a very important feature of an Olympic bid. We had the task of finding solutions, with a focus on public stakeholders and the post-Games legacy. The Rio 2016 project met all IOC requirements, but the commitment of the hotel network is reinforced by each new contract signed," said Carlos Arthur Nuzman, President of the Rio 2016 Committee.

The Rio 2016 accommodation project is also connected to the project of revitalizing the Port of Rio, officially launched by local authorities on June 23rd 2009. A village with 1,840 rooms will be built in the area while the port itself will welcome cruise ships that will also be used for Games accommodation.

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This, probably, ends the issue: "Will Rio have enough accomodations for SOG?"

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I think not. Rio is the weakest on the accommodation front.

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Rio is indeed the weakest for accommodation but that's not the point.

The point is does Rio have or will most likely have sufficient capacity by 2016. We shall know in one month when the evaluation commission report comes out. If accommodation is not highlighted as a significant challenge, then it won't be an issue for Rio.

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Rio needs 40,000 rooms, ok?

With those anoounced to be built, Rio reaches this number and has no big issues to solve in accomodations, am I right or not?

And in the last three years Rio got the title of the biggest (in number of foreign tourists) destination in Southern Hemisphere with the actual number of rooms...

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Don't be so defensive.

When it comes to accommodation, the question comes down to "Does the candidate city have secured - through written agreement - enough room to meet Games times requirement?". It's not easy as it sounds. In the past, Madrid, Salzburg accommodation guarantees were deemed somewhat unsufficient.

Again, probably not a big deal unless the EC report mentions something as "accommodation would be a huge challenge" and even so...

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No it won't have sufficient capacity but these are all very different concepts.

1. IOC guarantee: 40,000 rooms. This figure is unsustainable for many cities, so Rio will invest in a media village and other accommodation otpions through the city to fill the gap between existing hotel rooms and what is required. Cruise ships will add to the capacity too.

A city really shouldn't be building hotels it cannot sustain after the Games.

2. Spectator accommodation might be a bit tricky but Rio is a major tourist destination with massive events and with some planning it should not be a complete nightmare. Some even suggest London will be a tight in terms of accommodation.

IMO the weakness in the Rio accommodation concept is the limited number of hotel rooms which they have managed to get guarantees for and the risk in building facilities for the other rooms required to meet the 40,000 room guarantee.

Other than that its silly to want to compete with Tokyo, Madrid and Chicago who have massive numbers of existing rooms and a superior accommodation concept due to the compact nature of their bids.

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Adding on to what Pure Facts said, the IOC response to Madrid who had a problem with the IOC requirement for guarantees for all 40,000 rooms rather than just having 40,000 hotel rooms existing, is available at the Bid Library.

I think the IOC said something along the lines of "We believe Madrid has underestimated the task in ensuring that the IOC guarantees for all rooms are met".

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No it won't have sufficient capacity but these are all very different concepts.

1. IOC guarantee: 40,000 rooms. This figure is unsustainable for many cities, so Rio will invest in a media village and other accommodation otpions through the city to fill the gap between existing hotel rooms and what is required. Cruise ships will add to the capacity too.

A city really shouldn't be building hotels it cannot sustain after the Games.

2. Spectator accommodation might be a bit tricky but Rio is a major tourist destination with massive events and with some planning it should not be a complete nightmare. Some even suggest London will be a tight in terms of accommodation.

IMO the weakness in the Rio accommodation concept is the limited number of hotel rooms which they have managed to get guarantees for and the risk in building facilities for the other rooms required to meet the 40,000 room guarantee.

Other than that its silly to want to compete with Tokyo, Madrid and Chicago who have massive numbers of existing rooms and a superior accommodation concept due to the compact nature of their bids.

A city really shouldn't be building hotels it cannot sustain after the Games.

MO, I got your point. It's really relevant... but... I do think Rio can sustain the new rooms after the game... you know why? During the weekends, holidays and special dates, we get to reach a number around 90% of ocupation... there's a huge demand for new rooms, specially after the WC 2014 and, hopefully, Rio 2016. Besides that, the media and the olympic village will be sold after the games... we had a positive experience with this kind of idea right after the PAN AM Games, when the village was sold out even before the games started.

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Well I'm mainly talking about the dramatic jumps from 20,000 to 40,000 hotel rooms.

In terms of apartments there would be demand but there are only so many 5 star or 4 star hotels the city can sustain.

Building apartments to meet the IOC guarantee is much better, as proposed by Rio, as there is great demand.

The risk though is that eventhough its a medium risk project in Rio, not having these rooms in place already makes it a hig risk since Madrid, Chicago and Tokyo have no such issues and tons of rooms to choose from.

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Considering the articles just published that Brazil will have to Spend 42 billlion for world cup 2014 for infrastructure there has to be a great amount of addition hotel rooms in that type of budgeting.

Now I know the nature of the World cup is very different but you also consider the pan am games stadium completed two years ago was 200 million to build surely there will not be 10 billion in stadiums to host especially with the plans for many venues to be renovated . Is there not planning for Maracana to have a large hotel ? The Dock area is also supposed to have a huge condo complex as well that was to be media accoms for 2016. It is a very massive area a I have been there myself. Nine Cruise ships could be docked along those docks with an average PAX capacity of 1800 a peice.

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A city really shouldn't be building hotels it cannot sustain after the Games.

Besides that, the media and the olympic village will be sold after the games... we had a positive experience with this kind of idea right after the PAN AM Games, when the village was sold out even before the games started.

What kind of positive experience? Only the idea right? The village was marvelous for the PanAm Games but they do not finish it after the games for sell. The village was sold out because the owners hoped to see the project 100% done during the games. Gardens, walls and roads were in trash after the PamAm and "Rio 2007 team" refused to complete the project. The few owners are now finishing it for themselves. For 2016 Rio would need really to do a village before the games and play the right cards because people will not be foolish again. :unsure:

But for the games the village was Okay! :rolleyes:

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What kind of positive experience? Only the idea right? The village was marvelous for the PanAm Games but they do not finish it after the games for sell. The village was sold out because the owners hoped to see the project 100% done during the games. Gardens, walls and roads were in trash after the PamAm and "Rio 2007 team" refused to complete the project. The few owners are now finishing it for themselves. For 2016 Rio would need really to do a village before the games and play the right cards because people will not be foolish again. :unsure:

But for the games the village was Okay! :rolleyes:

Well i will tell you from my communications of one of the most experienced sports admins out there that they really have to get the village right because they didn't with 2007. The complains were pretty wicked .

Jim Jones

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Financing for new hotels benefits Rio 2016

New line of funding, up to US$ 160 million, will see expansion of hotels in Rio

The Rio de Janeiro hotel sector will benefit from a new line of funding, which may reach US$160 million, to reform and expand hotels in the south and southeast regions of Brazil. The measure, announced on Tuesday, 4 August, by Minister of Tourism Luiz Barretto, reinforces the objectives of the of the city’s bid to host the 2016 Olympic and Paralympic Games, and will help provide quality accommodation for visitors to the city for the biggest sporting event on the planet.

The credit line will be arranged by the Ministry of Tourism and the National Bank of Economic and Social Development (BNDES) to help meet the demands of the FIFA World Cup to be held in Brazil in 2014. The undertaking increases the synergy between the World Cup and the Rio 2016 candidature. Already confirmed as one of the cities to hold world cup matches, Rio de Janeiro has also presented plans to host the FIFA headquarters, the Media Center and the World Cup final itself, in the famous Maracanã stadium.

In the Candidature File delivered to the International Olympic Committee (IOC), the Rio 2016 bid surpassed the required target of 40,000 rooms, with a plan delivering quality accommodation to all visitors. In addition, 52 new hotels have since signed the commitment to support the bid after the delivery of the Candidature File, providing a further 4,577 rooms.

"With this new credit line, the quality of hotels in Rio de Janeiro will be even better. The Rio 2016 bid met all IOC requirements in the area of accommodation, and new initiatives in the area only reinforce the sector’s commitment to the project," said President of the Rio 2016 Committee, Carlos Arthur Nuzman.

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If there are new hotels coming to Rio for the Games, then this means they should be given a chance to renovate and reopen the Horsa Nacional and that Iberostar Copacabana Tower.

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If there are new hotels coming to Rio for the Games, then this means they should be given a chance to renovate and reopen the Horsa Nacional and that Iberostar Copacabana Tower.

Is Iberostar closed?

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Not a big deal, for the world cup it will be opened... Everyone, including me, that came to Rio knows that tower is the best place to stay in Rio (talking abouot view)

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Since Rio was chosen as the host city for the 2016 Olympics, should there be a list of the largest hotels (by number of hotel rooms) the city has? The only hotels in Rio that I know of are the Copacabana Palace, the Horsa Nacional, and that black monolith Meridien Copacabana. The latter two are closed now.

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With Rio's large tourism base one would have expected that its hotel room count far exceeds that of Cape Town.

Any reason for this. In fact I think Cape Town's room count specifically in hotels is slightly higher.

Are there large university residences available?

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With Rio's large tourism base one would have expected that its hotel room count far exceeds that of Cape Town.

Any reason for this. In fact I think Cape Town's room count specifically in hotels is slightly higher.

Are there large university residences available?

yes, there are, but far from Olympic Park... Since UFRJ (Federal Univesity of Rio de Janeiro) Univesity City is placed in Fundao Island, very far from Olympic Park.

UERJ campus is placed side-by-side with Maracana Stadium, but I'm not sure the number of available rooms there (and if this exists...).

PS: I attended to Univesity in Santos...

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BTW, Former-Meridien also former-Iberostar will be called Windsor Atlantico and will be reopened in 2010.

It's the biggest icon in Copacabana beach.

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