baron-pierreIV Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Have you been to either or both cities to make that statement? :suspect: Yes : OK. I just asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 i dont think you have been to either cape town nor rio...ur views of any other city besides madrid are degrading and negative...so what you say really doesnt matter...madrid is an amazing city...worse infrastructure??? im not gonna attack..i think baron and co. have said all that needs to be said regarding u. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyForYou-2M12 Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 i dont think you have been to either cape town nor rio...ur views of any other city besides madrid are degrading and negative...so what you say really doesnt matter...madrid is an amazing city...worse infrastructure??? im not gonna attack..i think baron and co. have said all that needs to be said regarding u. When you attack people on the fact "if they have been in CT or RJ" before, you should at least tell us all....if YOU....the big defendant of Cape Town....has been there before... Otherwise your arguments are nothing more than....NADA/NOTHING... South Africa have to demonstrate first if they are capable to host the next Fifa Worl-Cup...and then...with the finantial debt they will have cumulated....we will see if they are able or willing to host OG's... But returning to the origin of my post: Defending a german candidate like Leipzig explains a lot about you...as it means defending a totally artificial bid of a 3rd-class german city. Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Frankfurt, the Ruhr-Area or Stuttgart are much better german options than Leipzig That's All....and now....please answer following question with yes or no: - Have you been in Cape Town? - Have you been in Rio de Janeiro? MfG Vorsicht Alder....Bevor Du jetzt mit "Warst Du schon in Leipzig?", fragst....Die Antwort lautet: JA !!!.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 With Madrid now likely to participate in the 2016 race, Rome and Berlin also being other likely candidates and the US possibly shooting itself in the foot again with yet another reason to avoid it - could Tokyo be a runaway success already? The IOC will almost certainly shortlist cities such as Madrid, Rome and Berlin as they meet almost all of the criteria, but being European they stand only a slim chance of being selected - this will though prevent cities such as Rio, Dehli and others from making the shortlist at all, thereby removing much of the competition for a US city and Tokyo. So if it is a two horse race between Tokyo and New York/Chicago, I'm sure in the present political climate Tokyo would win hands down. The US must decide how much they actually want the Olympics and then make the required legislation changes - if not they will find it difficult to win again. Although as things stand Tokyo 2016 sounds really good but it would be a shame for New York to miss yet another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 The IOC will almost certainly shortlist cities such as Madrid, Rome and Berlin as they meet almost all of the criteria, but being European they stand only a slim chance of being selected - this will though prevent cities such as Rio, Dehli and others from making the shortlist at all, thereby removing much of the competition for a US city and Tokyo. You're totally right. The European cities will be shortlisted because they have all the infrastructure but they won't win because it isn't their turn, but: what about 2020? I think in 2020 Tokyo will return, and the European cities too, but, do you think Rio or Cape Town will be shortlisted? :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 2020 is almost impossible to predict, imagine a situation where Rome, Madrid, Paris, Berlin and either Tokyo or New York (depending upon which of them wins 2016) - it leaves no room for any new frontiers, which would be a shame - if Paris bid for 2016 along with the other European bids it may result in the US city not even making the shortlist, afterall New York didn't score too highly in the initial review of their infrastructure (though this is completely hypothetical). I can't see the IOC increasing the number of shortlisted candidates as it takes most of the day as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 2020 is almost impossible to predict, imagine a situation where Rome, Madrid, Paris, Berlin and either Tokyo or New York (depending upon which of them wins 2016) - it leaves no room for any new frontiers, which would be a shame - if Paris bid for 2016 along with the other European bids it may result in the US city not even making the shortlist, afterall New York didn't score too highly in the initial review of their infrastructure (though this is completely hypothetical).I can't see the IOC increasing the number of shortlisted candidates as it takes most of the day as it is. In your supossed situation the European cities have all to win... :grinning: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 if Paris bid for 2016 along with the other European bids it may result in the US city not even making the shortlist, afterall New York didn't score too highly in the initial review of their infrastructure (though this is completely hypothetical). Uhmm...Paris would not be so stupid as to think it has a snowball's chance in hell for 2016 -- as other Euro cities do. So I think you're stretching your scenarios a little too far. The short-listing will tell where the IOC wants to go next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 if Paris bid for 2016 along with the other European bids it may result in the US city not even making the shortlist, afterall New York didn't score too highly in the initial review of their infrastructure (though this is completely hypothetical). Uhmm...Paris would not be so stupid as to think it has a snowball's chance in hell for 2016 -- as other Euro cities do. So I think you're stretching your scenarios a little too far. The short-listing will tell where the IOC wants to go next. Obviously the IOC will want to go to America in 2016 but: what about 2020? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 Back-to-back European host cities of the Summer Olympics? Well, it is a remote possibility, but not impossible. Even though the last time this occurred was London 1948-Helsinki 1952, it is not unheard of. Now that I have mentioned it, with London 2012 at hand, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 i dont think you have been to either cape town nor rio...ur views of any other city besides madrid are degrading and negative...so what you say really doesnt matter...madrid is an amazing city...worse infrastructure??? im not gonna attack..i think baron and co. have said all that needs to be said regarding u. When you attack people on the fact "if they have been in CT or RJ" before, you should at least tell us all....if YOU....the big defendant of Cape Town....has been there before... Otherwise your arguments are nothing more than....NADA/NOTHING... South Africa have to demonstrate first if they are capable to host the next Fifa Worl-Cup...and then...with the finantial debt they will have cumulated....we will see if they are able or willing to host OG's... But returning to the origin of my post: Defending a german candidate like Leipzig explains a lot about you...as it means defending a totally artificial bid of a 3rd-class german city. Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Frankfurt, the Ruhr-Area or Stuttgart are much better german options than Leipzig That's All....and now....please answer following question with yes or no: - Have you been in Cape Town? - Have you been in Rio de Janeiro? MfG Vorsicht Alder....Bevor Du jetzt mit "Warst Du schon in Leipzig?", fragst....Die Antwort lautet: JA !!!.... baron is right about you.... your arguments are weak, nad of very little substance...leipzig is a city ive grown to love, its a fantasy bid contest...emphasis on fantasy...the rest of you statements arent worthy of a response...i think we have found a mikel II... "South Africa have to demonstrate first if they are capable to host the next Fifa Worl-Cup...and then...with the finantial debt they will have cumulated....we will see if they are able or willing to host OG's..." ryan you may have competition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyForYou-2M12 Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 If you've fallen in love with Leipzig....the only thing you demonstrate is....that you have.... 1. No taste... 2. No phantasy... And it would be a shame, to hear the name of this city together with other cities like Moscow, Budapest, Vienna, Madrid, Paris, Rome. It is hard enought that I will have to travel to this fuckin' city called Leipzig....for the first game of Spain at the Fußball WM 2006 (as I have my card for that game)... And regarding your doubts regarding my CapeTown-comment. Till now, South Africa has showm absolutelly nothing. Why should I trust them more than Buenos Aires/Argentina?.... Abur...y para tí....también...ya sabes..."by the shadow"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyForYou-2M12 Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 Of course..... 2. No fantasy.... with "f".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 the fact that i love leizpig and its history and culture is perhaps a sign that i do have taste...ive been places...some u bond with more than others...its just an opinion..im not comparing it to new york...or paris...i appreciate it ffor what it is...just like i prefer a small cosy coffee shop to another larger one thats in most countries...fantasy??? its a fantasy contest in 2022....i can choose which ever city i like and attempt to make a reasonable bid out of it...the same will now apply to u as applies to mikel...your opinions dont hold any weight nor substance therefore i dont find it necessary to consider them nor take them into account...nor will i even respond from now on...u're just not worth one...simple as that...whether or not you agree with any of my future comments or opinions means fuckall to me.. 1995 rugby world cup 1999 all africa games 1996 africa cup of nations 2003 cricket world cup . world cross country championships world fencing championships, olympic trials in hockey, cycling, world mountain biking... world summits world events and competitions, two oceans marathons, comrades marathon...cycle tours one of the largest in the world cape town will soon host F1 if anything cape town and south africa has been proving itself time and time again and working towards hosting an olympica games and will continue to do so....but ure too dumb to know that...goodbye and enjoy ur life...it must be fun being ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyForYou-2M12 Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 the fact that i love leizpig and its history and culture is perhaps a sign that i do have taste...ive been places...some u bond with more than others...its just an opinion..im not comparing it to new york...or paris...i appreciate it ffor what it is...just like i prefer a small cosy coffee shop to another larger one thats in most countries...fantasy??? its a fantasy contest in 2022....i can choose which ever city i like and attempt to make a reasonable bid out of it...the same will now apply to u as applies to mikel...your opinions dont hold any weight nor substance therefore i dont find it necessary to consider them nor take them into account...nor will i even respond from now on...u're just not worth one...simple as that...whether or not you agree with any of my future comments or opinions means fuckall to me..1995 rugby world cup 1999 all africa games 1996 africa cup of nations 2003 cricket world cup . world cross country championships world fencing championships, olympic trials in hockey, cycling, world mountain biking... world summits world events and competitions, two oceans marathons, comrades marathon...cycle tours one of the largest in the world cape town will soon host F1 if anything cape town and south africa has been proving itself time and time again and working towards hosting an olympica games and will continue to do so....but ure too dumb to know that...goodbye and enjoy ur life...it must be fun being ignorant. You have your opinion regarding Leipzig...I have mine.... And the same you like "little coffeeshops" in a mid-size city....Leipzig has the for me the same flair as a cementery. And without using very much fantasy...Olympic Games in the "Gänsefleisch-Zone" called Leipzig, ist more a nightmare than a dream... But you are right...This is your fantasy.... Regarding Cape Town or South Africa...nice list of mid-size events.... You're right...How could I try to compare the millions of "cricket-hooligans" from the West-Indies with the few tourist coming to the WorldCup or to OGs?.... Anyway....Let's finish here with this discussion, as it makes no sense to continue.... Rgds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 1995 rugby world cup1999 all africa games 1996 africa cup of nations 2003 cricket world cup . world cross country championships world fencing championships, olympic trials in hockey, cycling, world mountain biking... world summits world events and competitions, two oceans marathons, comrades marathon...cycle tours one of the largest in the world cape town will soon host F1 WOW! South Africa has surprised me :laughlong: (retoric) How many events!!?? Maybe you've hosted the same events as Namibia, who knows! I think Mozambique is one place above you :wwww: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 baron...this guy is even more stupid and dense than i thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 baron...this guy is even more stupid and dense than i thought.... He is. He spouts total nonsense -- which is why I don't even give him the time of day. See my latest reply in the "Budapest" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arwebb Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Regarding Cape Town or South Africa...nice list of mid-size events.... Rugby and Cricket World Cups are "mid-size" events? That must be a very strange measuring system you have there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 yeah well...if u dont have much brains to measure..then of course your measuring would be a bit off..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyForYou-2M12 Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 yeah well...if u dont have much brains to measure..then of course your measuring would be a bit off..... Why you are talking the whole time about your brain-problem and don't try to contribute some data to the discussion?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadyForYou-2M12 Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 Regarding Cape Town or South Africa...nice list of mid-size events.... Rugby and Cricket World Cups are "mid-size" events? That must be a very strange measuring system you have there. An answer with questions - hope it helps: You want for real compare a Football-World-Cup or SOG's with that, I repeat...mid-size-events?... Specially in Security-issues? Do the USA or Israel (they require special security) participate at that events?... Is Cricket a Sport known for its Hooligans?.... Of course this events are Mass-Events, but not more than a concert of for example the Rolling Stones....and you will never be able to compare them with the OG's.... It seems, that we're talking about different things......but anyway....Mo Rush will continue looking in it's pocket and searching for some event..... If I would have known before what events some users are trying to compare with OG's or Football World Cups, I would have started a Discussion regarding the Eurovision-Song-Contest or the Chess-Tournament of Linares... :wwww: Sorry...but that's the "fuckin" reality.... Rgds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 as before...your arguments are of no substance nor weight..no need to respond to your pointless posts..clearly ignorant...ill leave that up to you to prove..youre doing a great job...dont bother making anymore posts in response to something i write or say...the same applies to mikel already.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted December 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Is Cricket a Sport known for its Hooligans?.... Actually ... it's not, if anything far from it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 roltel...its nice of you to try and explain to him but you would be wasting your time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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