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@baron-pierreIV: "if you had said here is Cameron Mackintosh's view on the OC, then that would pique my interest because he is a known theatrical producer, and I feel what he may spout might be worthwhile."

Oddly enough, I'm having great trouble finding any public pronouncement by Sir Cameron on that topic. However, I did accidentally find the views of Adam Hanft (click on name for Wikipedia article):

http://www.fastcompany.com/1844301/what-every-ceo-can-learn-olympics’-wacky-opening-ceremony

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You want respect?

You to be taken (somewhat) seriously?

Then please look at my post again re the interview and then your response and recall that this thread is ABOUT THE OPENING CEREMONY OF THE LONDON 2012 OLYMPIC GAMES.

You're telling me that my post, with a link to an interview by one of the principal performers about her experience in the Opening Ceremony, is "inane"? In tjis

Am I posting in the wrong thread?

Can the moderators help me out here maybe?

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@baron-pierreIV: "if you had said here is Cameron Mackintosh's view on the OC, then that would pique my interest because he is a known theatrical producer, and I feel what he may spout might be worthwhile."

Oddly enough, I'm having great trouble finding any public pronouncement by Sir Cameron on that topic. However, I did accidentally find the views of Adam Hanft (click on name for Wikipedia article):

http://www.fastcompany.com/1844301/what-every-ceo-can-learn-olympics’-wacky-opening-ceremony

Thanks, Mark. But I never heard of this Hanft person. And I do value my time...so I don't want to get sucked into someone I've heard of before.

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You want respect?

You to be taken (somewhat) seriously?

Then please look at my post again re the interview and then your response and recall that this thread is ABOUT THE OPENING CEREMONY OF THE LONDON 2012 OLYMPIC GAMES.

You're telling me that my post, with a link to an interview by one of the principal performers about her experience in the Opening Ceremony, is "inane"? In tjis

Am I posting in the wrong thread?

Can the moderators help me out here maybe?

Volsy, I don't care about the 'respect' thing because I can give as well as I can take. I made a choice to ignore your post about Dame what's-her-name's views.

But I guess, since you do so want my views on her, then u must value my views. But as I said, I never heard of her...so that is MY PREROGATIVE not to go there. Is that so HARD To understand and accept? :rolleyes:

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Getting back on topic (i.e. Opening Ceremony/London2012 Ceremonies Discussion) ...

I shall post again a link to a very enjoyable and interesting interview with Dame Evelyn Glennie, who lead the drummers during the Pandemonium sequence.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9M7ZYkOjhHeYXV2RkhhR1hVYjA/edit?usp=sharing

For those who are interested (and of course that may not be everyone here) here are some other links:

Who am I talking about? Here she is....

http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/photo4.jpg

Who is she?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Glennie

She presented at TED in 2003 - fascinating!

http://www.ted.com/talks/evelyn_glennie_shows_how_to_listen.html

Note: she is profoundly deaf but has carved out a career as a solo percussionist.

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Good. After all, nobody outside of the UK knows who...what that...dame is. So, shouldn't be of too much relevance to outsiders.

That's exactly the same mentality you guys keep harping on...oh, here's another British/BBC viewpoint. Look, listen, take some pointers! :rolleyes: Stop being so f*cking Brit-centric! The rest of the world looked in on 2012 but didn't NECESSARILY have to see it thru BBC-colored glasses. I hope the Russians and the Brazilians come on here in the next 4 years and lay this sh*t on you thick the way you roast-bif have been doing it. Sorry; am not an Anglo-phobe (I can't have enuf of British dramas and whodunits on my PBS station)...but u guys, especially the new ones, don't know when to undersell it. <_<

Baron, do you think you could stop being such an idiot in this thread? Just re-read the last three pages and volshy didn't deserve your reponses to his posts. And you say you value your time, but you've written paragraphs of crap over the last three pages which must've taken you more time than that short interview which you say you didn't have time for.

And just because you don't know who someone is doesn't mean it can't be of relevence to you. You sound like the worst stereotype of an insular American with comments like that.

Sorry, you've a lot of good things to say a lot of the time, but you've had a brain-fade in the last few pages of this thread as far as I can tell.

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Getting back on topic (i.e. Opening Ceremony/London2012 Ceremonies Discussion) ...

I shall post again a link to a very enjoyable and interesting interview with Dame Evelyn Glennie, who lead the drummers during the Pandemonium sequence.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9M7ZYkOjhHeYXV2RkhhR1hVYjA/edit?usp=sharing

For those who are interested (and of course that may not be everyone here) here are some other links:

Who am I talking about? Here she is....

http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/photo4.jpg

Who is she?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Glennie

She presented at TED in 2003 - fascinating!

http://www.ted.com/talks/evelyn_glennie_shows_how_to_listen.html

Note: she is profoundly deaf but has carved out a career as a solo percussionist.

Nice interview, thanks Volshy. Not just interesting to hear from someone who was in the ceremony, but also interesting to hear from someone who hadn't seen it back until the days before the interview! It's funny how some performers don't watch their own work and just move onto the next thing.

Also funny to hear about the psychology of the drums. I'm sure it was more about cost saving than anything else, but she's right. You give someone a big plastic bucket rather than a snare drum and I can quite imagine the inhibitions dissapearing.

Don't suppose there's an interview with Rowan Atkinson around anywhere is there?

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Mark, I totally agree with your defense of Zhang Yimou. The ceremonies required him to stretch in new ways.

However, I see nothing profound or deep about London's OC. I didn't find the torch lighting particularly moving or meaningful. I felt like the organizers were afraid to make a choice and played it safe in the name of equanimity. It was ok, but it wasn't profound.

Frankly, I don't think most OCs are particularly deep. Spectacular, yes. Emotional? Some more than others. But not especially deep.

Even though I have grief with many aspects of the London Opening- I think the cauldron was very moving... The music, and the lining up of the former athletes to see off the new generation+symbolism of the cauldron itself... Probably the most emotional since Atlanta and Sydney, for me.

I remember finding Vancouvers opening to have a very special, emotional aspect to it. I felt very moved by the way Canadians regarded their harsh relationship with winter, and how it forms their identity. KD Langs piece (dedicated to the Georgian athlete) was an incredible moment.

Mark, I totally agree with your defense of Zhang Yimou. The ceremonies required him to stretch in new ways.

However, I see nothing profound or deep about London's OC. I didn't find the torch lighting particularly moving or meaningful. I felt like the organizers were afraid to make a choice and played it safe in the name of equanimity. It was ok, but it wasn't profound.

Frankly, I don't think most OCs are particularly deep. Spectacular, yes. Emotional? Some more than others. But not especially deep.

Even though I have grief with many aspects of the London Opening- I think the cauldron was very moving... The music, and the lining up of the former athletes to see off the new generation+symbolism of the cauldron itself... Probably the most emotional since Atlanta and Sydney, for me.

I remember finding Vancouvers opening to have a very special, emotional aspect to it. I felt very moved by the way Canadians regarded their harsh relationship with winter, and how it forms their identity. KD Langs piece (dedicated to the Georgian athlete) was an incredible moment.

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Baron, do you think you could stop being such an idiot in this thread? Just re-read the last three pages and volshy didn't deserve your reponses to his posts. And you say you value your time, but you've written paragraphs of crap over the last three pages which must've taken you more time than that short interview which you say you didn't have time for.

And just because you don't know who someone is doesn't mean it can't be of relevence to you. You sound like the worst stereotype of an insular American with comments like that.

Sorry, you've a lot of good things to say a lot of the time, but you've had a brain-fade in the last few pages of this thread as far as I can tell.

Go 2 hell, Rob. U sound like a total idiot yourself! What is it with the water in your isles? Don't talk of insular 2 me, when all of you guys are the worst examples of it!!

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Came back here to see what had been happening over the last few months only to discover its still just the 'Baron' being rude to everyone. Nothing changes.

Oh B/S! I am merely reacting to a lot of stupid and inconsiderate things being posted. It takes 2, 3 or more to tango. BTW, dIdn't even notice that you were gone. And don't let the screen door hit you on the way out! See, and that is merely a response to YOUR equally rude comment -- and I didn't even do anything against you to start with!

I won't take unjustified guff from anyone. I hope you would've learned that by now.

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@RobH: "funny to hear about the psychology of the drums. I'm sure it was more about cost saving than anything else, but she's right. You give someone a big plastic bucket rather than a snare drum and I can quite imagine the inhibitions dissapearing.

Don't suppose there's an interview with Rowan Atkinson around anywhere is there?"

The drum psychology bit was what struck me most too, but I disagree about the cost saving- it would certainly be an important consideration, but there's also the whole "tease the Chinese" aspect to consider! My thanks too to Volshy for providing the link (and the later additional links).

As for Rowan Atkinson, he seems to have gone into serious mode after the Olympics, with his support for the "Reform Section 5" campaign (referring to Section 5 of the Public Order Act, which was originally aimed at curbing the sort of "hate speech" techniques once employed by the Nazis, but ended up being applied to even mildly insulting words relating to minority groups; happily the Government backed the requested amendment last month).

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Yes, am aware of Reform Section 5, and its successful outcome. He's also been on the phone to Churchill.....oooooh yesssshh.....

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/rowan-atkinson-mclaren-f1-repair-bill-2013-02-08

Still, now he's defeated the government and bankrupted the car insurance industry, surely he's got time to give an interview about his work with Sir Simon Rattle.

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Getting back on topic (i.e. Opening Ceremony/London2012 Ceremonies Discussion) ...

I shall post again a link to a very enjoyable and interesting interview with Dame Evelyn Glennie, who lead the drummers during the Pandemonium sequence.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9M7ZYkOjhHeYXV2RkhhR1hVYjA/edit?usp=sharing

For those who are interested (and of course that may not be everyone here) here are some other links:

Who am I talking about? Here she is....

http://now-here-this.timeout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/photo4.jpg

Who is she?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Glennie

She presented at TED in 2003 - fascinating!

http://www.ted.com/talks/evelyn_glennie_shows_how_to_listen.html

Note: she is profoundly deaf but has carved out a career as a solo percussionist.

Thanks a lot for the sound file and the links.

It's remarkable that you don't notice Evelyn Glennie's deafness at all when she talks. OK, I just read that she's still able to hear for example that people talk to her - but her deafness is serious enough that she has to resort to lip-reading to understand what they say to her. So it's still an astonishing feat that she can talk that normally.

Besides, she really seems to be a lovely person. The more I ask myself whether that whole argument (especially Baron's tantrum) was really necessary. And no, I don't want to rekindle the whole argument - I'm just saying.

Evelyn Glennie actually seems to be too nice and interesting to argue about her or anything connected to her.

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Amazingly, it's now over 30 years since Eveleyn Glennie won Radio Scotland's "Scot of the Year" award (1982- and she went on to be "Scotswoman of the Decade"). Big in Japan and the USA too, apparently- definitely an impressive person.

Evidently not big enough for Baron! B)

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Big in Japan and the USA too, apparently- definitely an impressive person.

Oh wow, big in Japan? :rolleyes: Then how come she hasn't made a beer commercial there? nor has she earned a Jeopardy! question here in the US; so she is still an unknown!

How much farther shall we take this? I have all the time until next February.

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AND.... getting this back on topic AGAIN!...

Here is an interview with the writer of London's Opening Ceremony, Frank Cottrell Boyce:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/my-perfect-weekend/9854955/My-perfect-weekend-Frank-Cottrell-Boyce-childrens-author.html

Ciao!

Thank you for at least putting an ID on who that is. At least it's a name recognizable (directly with the creation of) the Ceremony.

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