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Are they planning to bomb the clouds? That was the chinese plan...

Another thing that came across my mind. Was there any ceremony in the past that's been affected by the rain? And will the show carry on as usual or does London has any contingency plan if it rains on that night eg. slightly different programme or taking out performance that can't be carried out due to wet weather?

On another note, can you choose to go to the Live Site in Olympic Park after your segment so you can watch the rest of the broadcast? Or there is a special after-party site where all cast will gather after the show? I hope they don't expect you all to just go home after that! :)

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it will be the most boring opening ceremony after atlanta :S

Fly over for a visit. There were some wonderful moments, but also quite a few disorganized looking head-scratchers. It wasn't terrible, but I have yet to speak to anyone on this side of the pond who

I will always see Beijings as a celebration that the Chinese beat their drums to the same beat and Londons a celebration that we each beat our drums to very different beats. Im certainly not trying

Another thing that came across my mind. Was there any ceremony in the past that's been affected by the rain? And will the show carry on as usual or does London has any contingency plan if it rains on that night eg. slightly different programme or taking out performance that can't be carried out due to wet weather?

I bet that they planned the ceremony with the possibility of rain in mind -- so that all segments will be feasible also in rain. It would probably look awkward for their narrative if they had to let out one segment or at least one part of a segment.

I know of only one Summer Olympic opening ceremony during which it rained -- that was Helsinki's opening ceremony. But it was back in 1952, so there weren't any cultural displays and they could stage all those rather simple ceremonial parts also in bad weather.

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Thanks looks great! The bright white patch of light over the northern roof only serves to prove something special is definitely happening at that section (over the tor, the roof ledge) of the stadium

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It can't be the cauldron location because

a) the tall floodlight would obstruct the cauldron's view,

B) the roof is probably not capable of carrying such an additional weight.

It could be, though, that the final torchbearer will be lifted to that position in order to light the cauldron from there (by wire, for example).

The spotlight could also be for a completely different purpose, for example a song performance or any other artistic element in the ceremony.

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It can't be the cauldron location because

a) the tall floodlight would obstruct the cauldron's view,

B) the roof is probably not capable of carrying such an additional weight.

It could be, though, that the final torchbearer will be lifted to that position in order to light the cauldron from there (by wire, for example).

The spotlight could also be for a completely different purpose, for example a song performance or any other artistic element in the ceremony.

I wasn't suggesting the cauldron would be on the roof. It wont be. I said it was in the general area, which I think it is.

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The lighting scheme in that picture seems to take into account the grassy mound at the northern end of the stadium (there's some light shed on it), which would of course suggest that it will stay put throughout the ceremony as this is clearly not the "green and pleasant land" opening portion.

I think the Tor will stay in place as well and act as a symbol of 'ever present nature' as the development of Britain is presented throughout the cultural segment. It will only move out of place later in the ceremony to make room for something else.... performances... maybe the cauldron....?

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Besides the Orbit, the Tor is truly the most persistent rumour to be the cauldron's location. Folks, Adrian (who should know better than we do) already said it isn't the location. And what also speaks against a cauldron on the Tor or even only roughly in the area where it is positioned now is that it would block the already sold tickets in those blocks for the athletic competition and that it would also block the view onto the jumbotrons on the northern end of the stadium.

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Adrian dispelled that theory before we found out about the mound and the Tor. I think it's possible that Adrian dispelled that location as the place of the cauldron thinking that it was only going to be the place for the Tor and nothing else. But it might be possible that the cauldron is hidden underneath the Tor and Adrian just dosen't know i; he dosen't know where the cauldron is, afterall.

Also, have we been able to disprove the possibility of a "ceremony-only" cauldron that could be moved from that location somewhere else inside or outside the stadium?

*dosen't know it;

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Also, have we been able to disprove the possibility of a "ceremony-only" cauldron that could be moved from that location somewhere else inside or outside the stadium?

That's very unlikely in my opinion. If it's an "indoor cauldron" at first, it can't be very tall -- so if they move it outside the stadium later on, it won't be seen anymore by the spectators in the stadium. And that's what I'm absolutely certain of: The flame will be visible from inside the stadium during the athletic competition, particularly because of the interesting camera shots with athletes competing with the flame in the background.

Furthermore, it would be so anti-climatic (just like in Vancouver) if the focal point of each Olympic Games, the cauldron, would be moved during the Games. Keep it where it was lit, that's part of the genuineness of the whole procedure.

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Now watch the full Opening Ceremony on Youtube.

You have audio options and videos of the sequences:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4As0e4de-rI&list=FL5Q73za55gUevM4OUJYXwIA&index=2&feature=plpp_video

Nacho, your YouTube postings do not work...at least for posters in the U.S. We can find them on channels available to us.

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Im waiting for the DVD set...I have to say and I have openly admitted it here that I absolutely dislked the format of the OC. It was utterly confusing although the Brunnel industral section was cool.

Usually DVD productions cut out the 'dangly' pointless bits. The cauldron lighting WAS different and the cauldron itself pretty cool...its treatment after was the let down...I was left in a 'negative frame of mind for a couple of days because of the OC...But then I watch the crowds and a couple of Medals came NZs way....

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The BBC are rebroadcasting the Opening Ceremony right now on BBC1, I think they've cleaned up the audio. I'm sure they've fiddled with the balance for annoying female announcer - she sounds almost bearable. I'm Tivo'ing this one as well, so I shall compare.

Quite surprised how few people watched the repeat - just 1.5m. Thought at least double that might have tuned in just to recapture a bit of lost Olympic spirit.

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Quite surprised how few people watched the repeat - just 1.5m. Thought at least double that might have tuned in just to recapture a bit of lost Olympic spirit.

I think that those are pretty impressive figures for a replay. And probably many recorded it already on opening night or simply thought that watching it once is enough.

I have to say that I still watch different segments of the ceremony in my own recording. Although I liked the closing ceremony very much, I prefer re-watching the opening ceremony because everything was full of anticipation then while closing ceremonies are always tinged with sadness. ;)

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So last night while nursing a terrible hangover I decided to order pizza, have a beer and watch the 2012 Opening Ceremony again, in full, for the first time since I watched it live early in the morning here in Sydney.

My review of the Ceremony at the time was better than most, and I ranked it second to Athens 2004 as my favourite ceremony - but after pulling back for a while and watching it again, I have to say it was deeply inconsistant. There was no real sense that there was a precise moment that the Ceremony began - but rather two quite anti climatic countdowns that didn't really lead to anything spectacular... more like half hearted attempts to build tension, that didn't really lead to anything spectacular. The Thames video montage was fantastic, but could just have been given to OBC to give to global broadcasters to put on as a start to the coverage itself. The Poster Countdown wasn't necessary, and was too fast paced for most regular Olympic viewers to even grasp the meaning. It was especially flawed as they seemed to have left out Paris 1900, Los Angeles 1984 and Atlanta 1996? Seriously? If you're given the task of doing an Olympic Games countdown, what kind of incompetence sees you leaving out some of the most important Olympic Games ever held (1984). I think the few Americans that picked up on it had every right to feel snubbed. No doubt, if the 2024 host skipped London 2012 in a similar countdown, the British press would have a field day.

Moving on from that, the green pastures and meadows were seriously beautiful, and I wish more of a segment actually took place with that set, before the entrance of Brunel and the Industrial Revolution. This is the strongest aspect of the ceremony. The transfer to the Industrial Revolution was one of the best pieces of stadium theatre, ever. Amazing. The music by underworld, it was all perfection. The Olympic rings too, were the best representation since Athens. It was this kind of power and oomph that was missing in the introduction itself.

I loved the entrance of the Queen, even though I had slight reservations about it veering closer to naff more than British humour. It is, however, after this point that the Ceremony seriously deteriorated in terms of pace, style and meaning. There was no narrative, but more a series of different snippits of "things" that could be associated with London. The NHS segment, while great in meaning and well staged, would have been more suited to a closing. The way it brushed through several icons of British literature felt arbitrary and offbeat. Britain has probably the most prolific writers in history - there was simply so much more that could have been drawn upon and expanded upon than merely slight references to Mary Poppins and Harry Potter.

Then the whole social media, internet segment. Again - closing ceremony material. Danny Boyle just didn't have his finger on the pulse in the way I thought he would have. I understand the "internet" itself was invented by a Briton - but it cannot be denied that it was US institutions that took it to the next level. This segment was so, so sloppy and didn't do British music justice. Above all, the theme of the segment was condescending and veered close to cringeworthy.

This aside, I found the lighting of the cauldron emotional, intimate and unique. I loved it. While the cauldron was smaller than what we are used to but the music, the design, the people involved - simply amazing.

While I know there is a big negative slant in this post, I just wanted to air some grievances I found with the Ceremony. Technically, it had some seriously epic features, and managed to gain a candid intimacy not seen since Sydney (Vancouver came close, but was more serious and emotional), but it was more the inconsistency that I found hard to get over.

overall, a fantastic ceremony... but I just feel with the immense weight of British culture on Boyles shoulders he didn't quite do it justice.

In terms of summer Olympics, and in the context of their cultures and time, I'd say Athens 2004 is still my favourite, followed by Beijing 2008. Sydney 2000 and 1992 would tie in at third, followed by London 2012.

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@runningsrings -- Yes, that's pretty much how I felt too. And the thing with this 2012 ceremony is that on 2nd and later viewings, its shortcomings seem to become more glaring than when seen earlier.

And again, after Happy & Glorious, the overall theme of "Isles of Wonder" just seems to have fallen out of the creative team's grasp. OK...

Green & Pleasant - cool & bucolic...but Boyle didn't let the viewer soak it in enough. Even before you took it in that this was a worthwhile undertaking (OK, not close to Athens' lake and the magical scroll/carpet of Beijing) but give the Brits kudos for trying...the whole thing is disassembled.

Between Pandemonium and Green&Pleasant, I probably would've found a way to build up G&P rather than its dismantling -- because I would have found it to be more impressive to see a natural setting assembled before my very eyes, rather than the abstract revolution which was very theatrical but somehow I felt that its whole "busy" buzz & energy was achieved by the hordes removing the G&P set rather its own 'industrial, era energy infusing itself into the scene. So, again, some sleight-of-hand there...but didn't fool me. (Am writing this at 6:00am...so part of this is insomniac ramblngs...)

OK, so that seemed to take care of England. Now we have Happy & Glorious (fine, Mother of the Kingdom comes in). And then...I'm just relying here on my memory...what's next?

The NHS sequence? Fine, a double salute to one particular British institution and abstract British literature. Still fine...but the idea of celebrating 4 nations is starting to slip away...

Next? The Chariots of Fire/Mr. Bean comedic sequence -- and as blatantly announced: In tribute to the British film industry... (have we totally lost Scot, Welsh and Northern Irish insitutions now?)

And then the hokey "Frankie & June" segment which seems like any previous variety show you've already seen...trying very hard to be very contemporary hip-hop and cutting-edge P.C. (making sure it is an interracial affair -- which in reality is about what? 2.5% of the population?) but was just one raggedy, motley mess.

Now, if a linear timeline was used, why...and sorry for sounding like I'm beating a dead horse here...but I am in the right folder now...wasn't there an outright segment on the bombing of London and the UK, and how the Brits responded. I think this would've delighted the Queen very much...and probably elicited a few moments of delight reflected on her face (rather than that sour, grim moment)...since she and her immediate family were in the thick of things, right there at the barricades of the blitzkrieg.

And one final bitch...which I still don't understand. The whole mass of 7 unknown lighters...and the mass send-off by the veterans in half-shadow and the dark green outfit of the younger Magnificent 7 in very shadowy lighting still leaves me puzzled. These are the Chosen ones who will literally light the way and the evening's highlight, and they were dressed in a very odd green? What happened to the white Relay outfits which would've stood out in the darkness. Truly such odd choices.

Was also shocked to learn that LOCOG and Boyle had bypassed the expertise and experience of London-based Jack Morton Worldwide and the proven services of Mark Fisher, also the local based production designer, who designed for Torino and Beijing. I mean the Italian and Chinese committees reached out to a far-away London designer for their ceremonies. And if Fisher seemed good enough for them, why wasn't he good enough for London? Why was he bypassed for his own hometown hoedown? I know. Boyle & Daldry wanted to go with their own designers. And what did they get? The TACKIEST outfits for the 'placard-bearers' in ceremonial history. Really sad.

What a wasted opportunity. The Brits are known worldwide for their love of pageantry, yet somehow...they let this one get away.

OK, off my soapbox and going back to sleep.

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It's been almost two months since the Olympic Opening Ceremony. I have to say that, while the Green and Pleasant and Pandemonium segments were probably some of the bests i've ever seen on an olympic ceremony, the rest was kinda a random mix of things. I don't know...maybe it's because I was already getting used to see ceremonies on which there was a nicely done narrative and on which segments were connected each other somehow by an element or various elements (The Scroll in 2008, Nikki Webster in 2000...) However this one seemed to have little if any narrative after the spectacular opening segment. This is where I now mention the Paralympic opening ceremony. Despite it's huge scientifical theme and that the set wasn't as good as the olympic one, they did a much better work than Boyle when it came to the narrative and protocol aspect, as the whole ceremony was connected with the themes of science and The Tempest (the characters of Miranda and Prospero). Also, that segment of the social network could have been done much, much better, and without having to had looked so kitsch and campy.

I wish there could had been a little tribute to the events of WWII. It would had been an emotional and tear jerking moment, although probably they wanted to avoid issues with Germany. :P As for the cauldron, I don't have too much complains, except for the fact that it became locked inside the stadium for the first time since Seoul, and provoked a considerable negative feeedback, despite the beautiful design by Heatherwick and their intentions to make a shoot out of the London 1948 cauldron (which will probably make Rio try to avoid repeating this again in 4 years)

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My problem with the London ceremony was that it didn't show who London was, or who the UK was for that matter. Many countries have rebellious teenagers, industrial revolutions, and nice farm land. Other then Mary Poppins, "story time with JK Rowling", and the UK national anthem, what was unique about London and the UK.

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My problem with the London ceremony was that it didn't show who London was, or who the UK was for that matter. Many countries have rebellious teenagers, industrial revolutions, and nice farm land. Other then Mary Poppins, "story time with JK Rowling", and the UK national anthem, what was unique about London and the UK.

That too but (1) London is well-known enuf worldwide; and which is why (2) I think they pushed it over to the Closing. There was also the speeded up fly-thru London in the intro.

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