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I will say this (and it may provoke a bit of controversy), I love the landscape of the set and the idea of a tor. However, Glastonbury is so well-known as a hub of occult activity that I'm bothered to see it feature prominently in the OC. Perhaps it will not be specifically referenced as such and will just be treated as a generic hill instead (I'm glad it doesn't have the tower). I just don't like the idea of demonic influences coloring the opening of the Olympic Games.

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I will say this (and it may provoke a bit of controversy), I love the landscape of the set and the idea of a tor. However, Glastonbury is so well-known as a hub of occult activity that I'm bothered to see it feature prominently in the OC. Perhaps it will not be specifically referenced as such and will just be treated as a generic hill instead (I'm glad it doesn't have the tower). I just don't like the idea of demonic influences coloring the opening of the Olympic Games.

Eh? Demonic? Please explain and give facts as I just can't understand your point of view! :blink:

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Sure. Saw them in person. Greek mythology is a far cry from the present-day occult.

The tor pre-dates paganism etc and was a place where they celebrated British godesses. Not much difference to the Greeks really. It's also mythically the home of the fairies - are they demonic too? Ultimately, the issue here is that you have seen a report that some nutjobs have 'used' the site for activities that you disapprove of and therefore you call it demonic etc. The vast majority of us view it as a mythical site that has legends around King Arthur, fairies, you name it basicaly. All good things by the way and not perceived at all to be demonic. It wasn't set up for satanic rituals in history, it wan't used that way going though paganism, druids, etc. It was a celebration of mother earth more than anything. Just because you';ve read that a few people have used it (legally or illegally) for something dodgy does not make it an invalid object for us to celebrate surely? :wacko:

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Hey, maybe it will just be a hill in which case there's no issue.

LOL - that's a bit of a cop-out statement really, but I give you your due as you did say you thought it might be controversial. :)

I actually can't believe what I am reading. People never cease to amaze me what they can think of to complain about.

I agree with you - it's just so odd at times!

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Well this stage looks fantastic! I am quite irritated about this presentation... It was extremely detailed as they delete with this presentation a part of the surprise effect! Did we had such a detailed presentation of the stage before? I think the stage looks truly great and if the story is good then we will have an extraordinary ceremony.

Random thoughts:

- there is no Thames to see on this version of the stage so I suppose the stage will evolve to another version

- it must as there is the need for place for the athletes right?

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Well I just read more posts and some on ssc and my question as answered ... I am really excited to see how they will manage to have such a massive change of the stage! I think it will be awesome !!! :)

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The tor pre-dates paganism etc and was a place where they celebrated British godesses. Not much difference to the Greeks really. It's also mythically the home of the fairies - are they demonic too? Ultimately, the issue here is that you have seen a report that some nutjobs have 'used' the site for activities that you disapprove of and therefore you call it demonic etc. The vast majority of us view it as a mythical site that has legends around King Arthur, fairies, you name it basicaly. All good things by the way and not perceived at all to be demonic. It wasn't set up for satanic rituals in history, it wan't used that way going though paganism, druids, etc. It was a celebration of mother earth more than anything. Just because you';ve read that a few people have used it (legally or illegally) for something dodgy does not make it an invalid object for us to celebrate surely? :wacko:

I'm not referring to the ancient history. I'm referring to present-day practices which I have been unfortunate enough to encounter in Glastonbury.

I hope the hill will simply be a hill that is evocative and suggestive of the colorful past to which you refer.

Do not be too angry with me for hoping the London OC will be free of evil influences. I want only the best for London's OC.

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I'm not referring to the ancient history. I'm referring to present-day practices which I have been unfortunate enough to encounter in Glastonbury.

I hope the hill will simply be a hill that is evocative and suggestive of the colorful past to which you refer.

Do not be too angry with me for hoping the London OC will be free of evil influences. I want only the best for London's OC.

Thats sort of a one dimensional way of looking at things isn't it?

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How so?

You'll have to research that one for yourself. One is a dead mythology that was invented to explain the universe and has been long discarded. The other is a current practice dedicated to the service and harnessing of evil powers.

Thats sort of a one dimensional way of looking at things isn't it?

You'll have to explain what you mean. What's wrong with not wanting the Satanic rites that take place in Glastonbury to color the OC in any way?

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You'll have to explain what you mean. What's wrong with not wanting the Satanic rites that take place in Glastonbury to color the OC in any way?

They aren't going to bring satanic elements into the OC. I thought you were calling ancient/new age paganism evil.

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What's wrong with not wanting the Satanic rites that take place in Glastonbury to color the OC in any way?

Nothing except I think if you mentioned Glastonbury to the majority of the people in the UK, Satanic rite would be very very far down the list of responses you'd get. The festival - yes, the spirituality - yes, ancient Druids - yes. I think mud and wellies would both rank higher. Satanism is certainly something I'd never associate with the Tor.

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Your post suggested that practically everyone in Britain that believed/liked/was interested in the tor was involved in satanic practices! Clealy not true and the tor's origins are not in any way bad. Just because a few people have used (probably illicitly) for bad practices does not mean we cannot celebrate the good that it has brought our country over the centuries. Seriousy that is inflammatory stuff. Focussing on the positive and not the negative is a better way to go. Why make a small negative problem like a few groups using the tor in a way that you view negative as being a sign that Britain and the olympic committee will turn the cermeony into something demonic? It's really not helpful and blatently not true. :(

Anyway, let's move on. I'm sure you didn't mean to offend so let's draw a line and focus on the stuff that is really important! :D

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A friend of my aunt does not like the Olympic Games because she consideres them a pagan ritual that do not pay proper honour to Jesus. Ummmm. OK. Not everyone is Christian. And not everyone in the world reads religion into everything. Sometimes a hill, a meadow and a sporting event are just a nice way to take in a beautiful day and celebrate life.

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A friend of my aunt does not like the Olympic Games because she consideres them a pagan ritual that do not pay proper honour to Jesus. Ummmm. OK. Not everyone is Christian. And not everyone in the world reads religion into everything. Sometimes a hill, a meadow and a sporting event are just a nice way to take in a beautiful day and celebrate life.

Christmas borrows a lot from the Pagans, should have let her know :P

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Oh dear, oh dear as someone who lives less less than 10 miles from Glastonbury to hear it described here as a hot bed of satanism is just unbelievable. A hot bed of weird hippys and and people into mother earth, paganism and splifs absolutely but satanism no. Also a bit ironic when glastonbury is the considered to be the cradle of christianity in england.

As for the tor it is an iconic and instantly recognisable site that is stunningly beautiful when seen from the hills around rising above the morning mists on the moors.

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Do not be too angry with me for hoping the London OC will be free of evil influences.

So, if I understand you... putting something in the show from a city where you've met people that have something to do with a pagan god will, literally, bring out Satan to curse the London games. But putting an actual pagan god into the cermony is fine.

That's some interesting theology you've got there.

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We still have 43 days till OC .. Relax, wait couple more days and u will see the location being built.. I love this time of "Olympic" year .

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My biggest question is. Will the athletes be standing on the stage or will they have their own seat by the audience ? If so 11,000 or so seat will be empty before the Parade A.

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