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It defintiely seems to be the case. I am very impressed. Kinda sad I didn't get my opening ceremony ticket now. Oh well.

I am equally gutted as well. Am pinning my last hope they will announce a Wimbledon style queuing sale for the very last batch of the OC ticket. Will be the first in line to camp provided the cheapest ticket avail is not the absurd £995 like previously!

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London 2012 seems have to found their way of outdoing Beijing is not through mass precisions, but through stage theatrics.

Totally agree. Beijing is all about grandeur, the power of human as raw power. Whereas London is about story telling and humanity. They are both very different and I think London will unexpectedly outdo Beijing to the surprise of everyone purely by the epicness of the staging and theatricality and originality.

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LOL the O2 arena has outgrown the Thames! :)

Why is there another giant ring on top of the roof. So there ARE 5 of them, scattered all over. Very curious why one is on the roof hmm. And as much as the ground treatment looks like a map of London (or am abstract version), for now it's more like London after a nuclear attack :P

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Could this be the title of the ceremony; "the London of the Rings" or "Harry Potter and the Lost Rings" or "Honey, I Shrunk London" ... Kidding aside I getting more and more excited about this ceremony and can't wait the day to come...

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Everything looks awesome, BUT, there better not be Morris dancing round those poles, hopefully if there is it will just be round the English pole with Highland dancing around the Scottish one. Morris dancing does not represent Scotland that would really annoy me if they did

Actually, whilst I kind of see where you are coming from, it all depends on what kind of morris dancing we are talking about. I guess it comes from the moors (that's the general theory anyway), which explains why there are similarities with dancing in Spain, Portugal and even Romania - to name but a few. The traditional style also coves the whole world as there are morris dancing groups in Cyprus, Canada, Australia, USA (again there are more countries that I could put in here). There is more than one kind of morris dancing - 6 traditional in fact, but if you include the modern female morris dancing, it makes 7 I guess. The following are the different types, but I believe that most people only ever think of the Cotswold type.

  • Cotswold morris - from cotswold obviously
  • North West morris - again obvious - includes females
  • Border Morris - Engish-Welsh border areas
  • Longsworld dancing from Yorkshire and south Durham.
  • Rapper - or Short sword dancing from Northumberland and Co. Durham.
  • Molly dancing - from the English Midlands and East Anglia.

I notice in particular the short sword dancing - rings a bell wiith regards Scottish dancing? It makes sense when the areas that do it border with Scotland does it not? The Welsh share the border morris and there is definitely their own version the furthe into Wales you go.

Modern morris dancing covers the whole country really. In the modern area, they are more like the majorettes. It's usually female, very precise (and repetitive if you ask me), plus they tend to wear more majorette type costumes. A national competition was held in my hometown several years ago and I happened across it one day. It was absolutely fascinating, with teams from across all of the UK competing. Alright, maybe (I don't know for sure) there are more English teams than the other home nations, but the competition I saw absolutely included the other nations. Also, thee are english , scottish, northern irish and welsh Irish dancing clubs, as well as english, scottish andnorthern irish Welsh dancing clubs (obviously to varying degrees) etc... At the end of the day, I've seen Edinburgh's miltiary tattoo where they have included the traditional dancing from all 4 nations and it has been incredibly similar. I tend to believe that they all had the the same origins mostly - well it always seems like it!

Personally, I believe that Danny Boyle will go with the traditional dancing as people know them from each individual nation, but I posted this to point out that even most GB citizens view of morris dancing is wrong let alone the rest of the world. If you are going to have a downer on morris dancing, please have it for the right reasons! :)

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I am blowing in emotion to see such pics. Nevertheless, Boyle stated it was just the opening segment "Green and pleasant". I guess the song "Jerusalem" will be displayed at the time... or not??

After this opening segment the scene in the stadium will change... so.. how could be all that grass removed in a few minutes???

Boyle states he was prepared to feel "failed" ... What does he mean?

That makes me worry... could this ceremony would be such spectacular or he is telling that some of us could find it dissapointing??

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Personally I don't think Jerusalem will be played. There may well be music which features it as a motif alongside other traditional pieces but straightforward playing/singing it is unlikely in my opinion.

Perhaps you are right, but personally I hope you are mistaken. It is such a magnificent piece and would be such a fitting benediction for the Games.

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Barcelona had some heavily Catalan elements including dancing the sardana and Catalan music. Interestlingly the Catalan anthem was played although somewhat detracted by the arrival of the King and Queen at the same time which is rather odd (or deliberate?).

The alphabetical order of the parade of nations was in French by the way, a compromise between those who wanted it in Catalan and those who thought it should be in Spanish/Castillian.

Nonetheless, there was a segment titled "Land of Passion" with elements from other regions of Spain just after the sardana.

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I am also wondering about that giant ring on the roof, could this be the possible cauldron placement site?

And if you look around the field, there are four other rings. My guess is the five will come together will form the Olympic rings. But I think this also proves that the roof can hold more than people think. It isn't a pup tent, after all.

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Perhaps you are right, but personally I hope you are mistaken. It is such a magnificent piece and would be such a fitting benediction for the Games.

For me it's too English as opposed to British - despite my earlier posts on the subject I think it would be a step too far unless alongside songs from the other three nations and it's also too Christian - for that reason I don't think it should be used as England's Commonwealth Games anthem.

Anyway, I can't wait to see what they do, I'm really getting excited now.

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For me it's too English as opposed to British - despite my earlier posts on the subject I think it would be a step too far unless alongside songs from the other three nations and it's also too Christian - for that reason I don't think it should be used as England's Commonwealth Games anthem.

Anyway, I can't wait to see what they do, I'm really getting excited now.

Christianity is an important part of England's history and foundation. Incorporating Jerusalem would not be like commanding everyone to pray. LA featured some African-American spirituals in the the Music of America portion of the ceremony. Athens featured Greek gods. Beijing drew on multiple faiths in subtle ways. I'm sure Istanbul would incorporate Islamic influences. I just don't see Jerusalem as problematic. And it is WONDERFULLY iconic.

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I think Jerusalem would work well as the backbone to an original composition, much like *Hard Times Come Again No More* was threaded through the American West Suite from the Salt Lake Opening Ceremony.

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Jersualem may sounds too English for british festivity, but anyway it's a breathtaking composition that also reminds us the movie Chariots of Fire related woth the Olympics, too...

It would be nice to hearing that song during the opening segment "Green and pleasant". By the way, that name was taken from its lyrics... So, I think it's highly probable that it will be played...

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At first I though that too but now as there are 4 other rings identified in these photos (see the Cauldron thread) besides that one around the stadium, I've been since guessing that they maybe all be "flown' or come togoether somehow at some point to form the 5-Olympic rings logo

I think that is the case too. The five rings are part of the puzzle that Boyle mentioned, pieces that are put together to form a giant Olympic ring.

And it makes perfect sense that the Thames is the last scene change that is to stay till the cauldron. It's the path athletes follow and they will congregate at both banks of the river. Also the cauldron sequence might start from the real river Thames leading up to the final torch runner running up this fake Thames onto the tor. It's a nice link i reckon

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At first I though that too but now as there are 4 other rings identified in these photos (see the Cauldron thread) besides that one around the stadium, I've been since guessing that they maybe all be "flown' or come togoether somehow at some point to form the 5-Olympic rings logo (led lights).

(- sorry Kenadian, just read your post after i posted this and see you had the same idea).

Thomas Heatherwick is the designer of the Cauldron and he has created some way out, ground breaking contemporary sculptures. So perhaps he might be expected to come up with something unique and elaborate (or unique and simple?)

I now believe that the 5 rings will come together in some way to form the Olympic Rings. I also have a feeling that whatever Heatherwick does it will be as much an engineering feat as a design one. What I mean is that the cauldron is unlikely to just be simply unveiled, I have a feeling it will be quite a technical engineered unveiling with some machinery involved.

The only thing I have been able to predict so far is the Thames going through the centre of the stadium, I had that picture in my head for one of my ideas. The green and pelasant land, live animals and dramatic set change has really surprised me, for the good. I am impressed that he is not making it easy for himself and is really trying to put a British stamp on this show. Wonderful.

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London 2012 is not England's games exclusively.

Oaky!! I love you n all, but ... yes, there is a but lol! Why can't/shouldn't this ceremony be more skewed towards a London/English centric vision?? I mean, the Olympics are happening in London, in England.

Natually there should be aspects of the ceremony that incorporate the other UK nations, but I do not see it as unreasonable that London and England be heavily represented.

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