tmlfan4ever Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 I am hopping New York does not win the 2012 Summer Olympics, because I feel for now the United States has hosted the Olympics enough times. There was 1984 in Los Angeles, 1996 in Atlanta & most recently 2002 in Salt Lake City. Do you agree with me & if you don't, what are some good reasons that New York should host the 2012 Summer Games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOlympiadsW Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 hey your a little too late....this has been discussed at least 50 times....about 20 today alone...go look those up before posting more unecessary threads.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaJeff Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Well, I look at it this way. Since, 1984 Winter, North America as a whole has hosted 4 Olympics (all 3 US plus Calgary 1988), while Europe has hosted a total of 5 times. If anything, I would like to see Asia or Africa get a shake at it, but that's not happening unless they come up with an unbelievable plan. I don't think NYC should be prohibited only on frequency ultimately. Other factors perhaps, but not frequency. Just because someone has hosted the party a lot shouldn't prevent them from hosting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thatsnotmypuppy Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Fuckoff newbie! Go bother someone at disney.com already. Sheesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmlfan4ever Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Then let's say New York some how wins the bid & it could happen. Should Toronto have still have bid for 2012, because a New York would show the IOC would go to North America for back 2 back Olympics, or would they claim they wouldn't want to have back 2 back Olympics in Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaJeff Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Then let's say New York some how wins the bid & it could happen. Should Toronto have still have bid for 2012, because a New York would show the IOC would go to North America for back 2 back Olympics, or would they claim they wouldn't want to have back 2 back Olympics in Canada? I don't know the full circumstances behind the Toronto 2012 bid, but my guess would be they pulled out because they knew the odds were too slim of getting the games in terms of the costs it takes to bid in the first place.. No country I'm aware of has hosted the games back to back or both summer and winter in the same year. That fact would make it hard to justify such a cost, if not next to impossible. They are better off to wait for a better chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOlympiadsW Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Then let's say New York some how wins the bid & it could happen. Should Toronto have still have bid for 2012, because a New York would show the IOC would go to North America for back 2 back Olympics, or would they claim they wouldn't want to have back 2 back Olympics in Canada? no....there is absolutely no way that the IOC would have had Vancouver 2010 and Toronto 2012......Toronto 2016 would even be a real stretch at best..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Three, four...are NEVER enough. And why do they keep coming back to Uncle Sam? Because when you are low on cash, who do you go to? :unclesam: :unclesam: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexjc Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 America can host on arternating years with Europe for ever.... The simple reason is the USA's MASSIVE coporate wealth. That's why the IOC now gets a little titchy when there is a long break between US hostings, be it Summer or Winter! The IOC is reminded that the whole movement nearly collapsed under it's debt burdening weight during the 1976 games and it was only Los Angeles that bothered to stump up with a credible bid, and commercialise the games. At that stage they even offered the IOC a permenant home!! Personally it would be better value for money if the USA hosted every 12 years a SOG alternation with Europe and the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 America can host on arternating years with Europe for ever....The simple reason is the USA's MASSIVE coporate wealth. That's why the IOC now gets a little titchy when there is a long break between US hostings, be it Summer or Winter! The IOC is reminded that the whole movement nearly collapsed under it's debt burdening weight during the 1976 games and it was only Los Angeles that bothered to stump up with a credible bid, and commercialise the games. At that stage they even offered the IOC a permenant home!! Personally it would be better value for money if the USA hosted every 12 years a SOG alternation with Europe and the rest of the world. No argument from me, my good man. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Then let's say New York some how wins the bid & it could happen. Should Toronto have still have bid for 2012, because a New York would show the IOC would go to North America for back 2 back Olympics, or would they claim they wouldn't want to have back 2 back Olympics in Canada? I don't know the full circumstances behind the Toronto 2012 bid, but my guess would be they pulled out because they knew the odds were too slim of getting the games in terms of the costs it takes to bid in the first place.. No country I'm aware of has hosted the games back to back or both summer and winter in the same year. That fact would make it hard to justify such a cost, if not next to impossible. They are better off to wait for a better chance. France hosted both in 1924 USA in 1932 Germany in 1936 USA Winter 1980 - Summer 1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOlympiadsW Posted July 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 yes but a long time ago the host nation had the choice to chose first whether it wanted both....completely different then what it is today.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyjoeda Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Im sure either London or Paris will get 2012 so it will be interesting to see who gets 2016. If NYC bids they would have a decent shot at winning it, if that happens it will be years befor the games come back to North America; Toronto might not have a shot till 2024 or 2028. Who know Canada could win anouther winter games in that time. It would be nice to see the game on a new continent, Maybe Dubai, or a Brazilian city could realistically host it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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