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2014 soccer World Cup dates announced

Tournament will take place between June 12 to July 13

AFP

Published Wednesday, July 27, 2011

The 2014 World Cup in Brazil will take place between June 12 and July 13, FIFA general secretary Jerome Valcke announced in Rio on Wednesday.

"The World Cup in 2014 will start on June 12 and finish on July 13. I know everyone wants to know the city that will host the opening game of the tournament, but that will be decided in October," he said.

Five-times champions Brazil will host the tournament for the second time after 1950, when they lost the final at the Maracana stadium to neighbouring Uruguay.

The last South American hosts were Argentina in 1978.

Valcke also confirmed that the Confederations Cup would be held in Brazil between June 15 and June 30, 2013.

The preliminary World Cup draw takes place Saturday in Rio.

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If I am not mistaken,, this font was developed for FIFA and it is their intelectual property. It is the same font used in South Africa 2010 and seems to be a FIFA requirement. After all, besides all the confusion, the tournament is the FIFA World Cup.

The font I referred is not from the phrase "FIFA World Cup" but the word "Brazil". It is part of visual identity. It is not the same as South Africa, the 2010 font came from the word "Africa" and was different.

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If I am not mistaken,, this font was developed for FIFA and it is their intelectual property. It is the same font used in South Africa 2010 and seems to be a FIFA requirement. After all, besides all the confusion, the tournament is the FIFA World Cup.

I was meant to the font in the word "Brasil". The "FIFA World Cup" is classy and very nice. wink.gif

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Goal-line technology possible at 2014 World Cup

RIO DE JANEIRO —

FIFA president Sepp Blatter said goal-line technology could be in use for the 2014 World Cup finals if a system is proved to be reliable and affordable.

There has been a huge push for football to follow sports such as cricket and tennis in embracing technological help for officials with the argument brought into sharp focus by England having a ‘goal’ ruled out against Germany at the last World Cup despite replays having shown that the ball had crossed the line.

“In March next year, we will have a final decision on goal-line technology. If it’s proved to be accurate and affordable, it’s possible that the international board will adopt this technology during the 2014 World Cup,” Blatter told a news conference.

“If this is the case then other football associations will have the right to use the goal-line technology.”

FIFA will also decide in 2012 whether or not to have two extra officials behind the goalline as a “general rule”.

“It is not yet decided if the assistance of two additional assistant referees will be included a general rule,” said Blatter.

“This will be done by an international board meeting in London that will take place immediately after the 2012 European Championships. Then, in July, we will have an indication how World Cup refereeing will be done in 2014.”

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UEFA seeding pots

2014 FIFA World Cup seeding pots decided

UEFA's 53 member associations have been split into six pots for Saturday's 2014 FIFA World Cup preliminary draw (from 20.00CET) in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, from which nine groups will be determined.

The six seeding pots were based on the July FIFA World Ranking, which was released today. The top nine teams are placed in Pot 1 (including world champions Spain and 2010 runners-up the Netherlands), the next nine in Pot 2 and so on, with the lowest eight in Pot 6.

In the European qualifying competition, to be played between 7 September 2012 and 15 October 2013, the teams will be divided into eight groups of six teams and one of five. Each pool will contain one team from each pot, except for the five-team Group I, which will have no country from Pot 6.

The nine section winners progress straight to the finals in Brazil − to be held from 12 June to 13 July 2014 − and the eight best runners-up will play off for the remaining four berths over two legs from 15 to 19 November 2013, with the winners of those matches also competing in South America.

Pot 1

Spain

Netherlands

Germany

England

Portugal

Italy

Croatia

Norway

Greece

Pot 2

France

Montenegro

Russia

Sweden

Denmark

Slovenia

Turkey

Serbia

Slovakia

Pot 3

Switzerland

Israel

Republic of Ireland

Belgium

Czech Republic

Bosnia-Herzegovina

Belarus

Ukraine

Hungary

Pot 4

Bulgaria

Romania

Georgia

Lithuania

Albania

Scotland

Northern Ireland

Austria

Poland

Pot 5

Armenia

Finland

Estonia

Cyprus

Latvia

Moldova

Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia

Azerbaijan

Faroe Islands

Pot 6

Wales

Liechtenstein

Iceland

Kazakhstan

Luxembourg

Malta

Andorra

San Marino

UEFA

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Jarome Valcke said today Final match will be in Maracana stadium, Rio de Janeiro.

http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/copa-do-mundo/noticia/2011/07/valcke-confirma-final-no-rio-e-com-boa-vontade-abertura-em-sao-paulo.html

"The stadium for final match is already evident, but if we think there are not many cities that could accommodate the decision. Not confirmed yet, but it's a stadium that has received the final 61 years ago. What we have to decide now is where the semifinals will be played the opening match, the third-place" - Jerome Valcke said, recalling the decision of the 1950 World Cup at the Maracana.

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I'm no longer going to restict such posts to the FIFA forum here. This is poisoning your World Cup so it's going to poison this thread, enjoy reading this. On what should a great day in the start of Brazil's preparations for the World Cup, this is what our papers are full of. Monumental fail Brazil 2014, carry on like this and your tournament will be the worst in living memory:

World Cup 2014 draw: Ricardo Teixeira, Brazil's most powerful football figure, calls British media ‘corrupt’

Ricardo Teixeira’s distaste for all things English was demonstrated again as Brazilian football’s most powerful figure declined to answer questions from international journalists and said the UK media was “corrupt”.

As president of the Brazilian federation the CBF and the 2014 World Cup organising committee, Teixeira is all-powerful in Brazilian football, but he has made plain his dislike for the English since being accused in Parliament of seeking inducements in the 2018 World Cup bidding process, and by the BBC’s Panorama of receiving bribes from collapsed sports marketing agency ISL.

Teixeira strongly denied the accusations. In an interview with Brazilian magazine Piaui published this month, he described the English as “a bunch of pirates”, said the allegations levelled by Lord Triesman and Panorama were motivated by spite following the 2018 defeat, and promised to “make life hell” for the BBC in 2014.

He also declined an invitation to attend a dance at the Copacabana Palace hotel to mark the Queen’s birthday, telling staff, “nobody is going to anything British”.

His dislike for the media is not confined to the UK. He told the same interviewer that “the Brazilian press is a bunch of jackasses”. The entire staff of Brazil’s biggest sports newspaper Lance! are banned from the World Cup draw because of their repeated criticism of Teixeira’s running of the Brazilian game.

Despite being chairman of the organising committee Teixeira is yet to take a question from the domestic and international media who have been in Rio for five days.

He made a brief appearance at a press conference, during which he welcomed the media, but would not field questions. When asked why by English journalists, he replied: “Because you are corrupt.”

Can anyone tell me why - as an Englishman - I should support your World Cup and why I should care in the slightest about its success or failure? If such rubbish came from Seb Coe I wouldn't expect anyone to support London 2012.

The draw is completely overshadowed to the extent that's it's already clear Brazil has fallen at the first hurdle in its build up to the world cup. At least Pele had the decency to say such words from Texiera are not appropriate, a true legend.

Hopefully Rio 2016 will carry off its preparations with more grace rather than pissing off a participant nation three years before its event.

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I'm no longer going to restict such posts to the FIFA forum here. This is poisoning your World Cup so it's going to poison this thread, enjoy reading this. On what should a great day in the start of Brazil's preparations for the World Cup, this is what our papers are full of. Monumental fail Brazil 2014, carry on like this and your tournament will be the worst in living memory:

Can anyone tell me why - as an Englishman - I should support your World Cup and why I should care in the slightest about its success or failure? If such rubbish came from Seb Coe I wouldn't expect anyone to support London 2012.

The draw is completely overshadowed to the extent that's it's already clear Brazil has fallen at the first hurdle in its build up to the world cup. At least Pele had the decency to say such words from Texiera are not appropriate, a true legend.

Hopefully Rio 2016 will carry off its preparations with more grace rather than pissing off a participant nation three years before its event.

Well Rob, how else would you expect the man to react to what's being perpetrated against him -- true or not? Yes, he may have an inflated ego or whatever, but I think he's just reacting instinctively as would anyone act, i.e., his back up against the wall. And he is in his realm, he is NOT stepping on English territory, so the (man/fool) can act however he likes. I mean this is the price the Brits must pay for having a very hounding press. At some point, the targets of the UK's exposes will have to fight back somehow. Am not justifying his actions, just saying it's just a natural equation.

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I'm sure you're right, but the natural reaction to that here is a wish for Brazil 2014 to fall so flat on its arse that it can't get back up. It's very hard not to feel that way even if it isn't completely reasonable.

Well, the juggernaut of failure and egotism that is Brazil's slow preparations for this world cup will continue with Teixeira at the helm. I'll just try hard not to smile too much when it inevitably crashes.

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RobH, you are one of the posters here I respect more, but you're overreacting.

In a war between a briber FIFA dirigent and British media, I wish both to lose. And I believe, most of us here.

You're wishing a disaster event, but a fail World Cup in Brazil WILL NOT affect Teixeira or Blatter, they are already very rich and poweful people.

A disaster World Cup in 2014 will affect many Brazilian citizens who already spent more than US$ 10 bn in this event with the goal to show Brazil abroad as a new nation, and stage a nice party in our territory...

And we a hoping to stage a great Cup in name of Brazil nation, not Mr. Teixeira's.

Your are pointing your torpedos to the wrong target. And by far. :(

And even if some FA member said something really stupid about Brazil, I'd never make a mess between him and the British people or some British event.

Spanish members from Madrid 2016 said a lot of **** of Rio and Brazil during all 2016 race, and still, I could support them and root for magnificent Olympics in Madrid. Not all spanyards are idiots like those from Madrid 2016 bid team.

Be more reasonable. :)

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It's very hard to be reasonable in the face of such comments. If this was a one off from FIFA maybe it would be easy to brush aside but it's part of a trend that's been ongoing for a while and has got very nasty in the last few months. I'd like your world cup to be a success but at the moment I feel I wouldn't be upset if it isn't.

If people want to discuss the draw that I believe is happening soon I'll keep away from this thread for a bit. Hopefully when I retuen it'll be to comment on your stadiums and preparations rather than the xenophobe organising the thing.

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It's very hard to be reasonable in the face of such rubbish. If this was a one off from FIFA maybe it would be easy to brush aside but it's part of a trend that's been ongoing for a while and has got very nasty in the last few months. Tell me why I should be in any mood to be reasonable?

If people want to discuss the draw that I believe is happening soon I'll keep away from this thread for a bit. Hopefully when I retuen it'll be to comment on your stadiums and preparations rather than the xenophobe organising the thing. I'm not holding my breath though.

In fact, I can understand you angry, RobH. I'm also angry with Teixeira for more things, you can't even know about local Brazilian football.

Also, in fact, Teixeira is not working in the preparations of this World Cup. Worse, he is expected to be the chairman of the event.

No doubts, he couldn't fight journalist (no matter the nationality) and this led a huge campaign in twitter against him here in Brazil.

But, this tournament is not owned by Mr. Ricardo Teixeira and have not been payed by him of by CBF organization.

I'm sure he will disappear in the following months and probably will not attend the events related to the World Cup, maybe even today.

You should be more nice, because, at the end, this is the party of football (we both love this sports), and Brazilians (the nation) are not fighting English people or journalist, otherwise, we are together angry against TEIXEIRA, but hoping to have a nice World Cup. :)

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RobH,

As I have said in GB before. You are making a fool out of yourself. The FA ran a lousy campaign and lost. When they realised that, they went down shooting at FIFA. And I don't think FIFA is managed by a bunch of priests. They are corrupt, but so is the world of football.

Have you never asked yourself why the hell didn't the FA denounced the so called bribery attempts and dropped th bid when people started to make those propositions to them? Really, the only possible way to come out on the top in such a situation is to withdraw and denounce. But the FA played it through.

Besides, the News of the World scandall, which was the newspaper that exposed 2 ExCom members, has actually put a big part of the British media in a bad situation. You cannot really claim at this point that the British media is not corrupt.

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As I have said in GB before. You are making a fool out of yourself. The FA ran a lousy campaign and lost. When they realised that, they went down shooting at FIFA.

You have said it before, but once again, you're wrong, as you always are. :rolleyes:

My recent posts have NOTHING to do with the 2018 campaign. They have EVERYTHING to do with FIFA and a few of their members' anti-English agenda, and with the attitude of the man running your World Cup bid which is likely, if it continues, to turn a lot of people off your World Cup. It already turned me off the draw (which I normally would have watched), and as I see from reading SSC, coverage and perceptions of the World Cup in your own country is also being harmed by him.

You might want to write to your FA or FIFA or one of your newspapers rather than trying to change my mind by (strangely) calling me a fool me aluz. Just a thought. :rolleyes:

Besides, the News of the World scandall, which was the newspaper that exposed 2 ExCom members, has actually put a big part of the British media in a bad situation. You cannot really claim at this point that the British media is not corrupt.

At least get some facts on your side before posting here, thank you. :rolleyes: It was the Times that ran big with the FIFA expose, not the NOTW. And the BBC have done just as much to expose FIFA as any News International publication and their reputation remains very high worldwide (unless you're a bore like Texiera and believe they are a "state organisation" who have an interest in getting the 2018 World Cup wrested away from Russia - perhaps the funniest bit of paranoia that has come from the idiot's mouth in the last week). :lol:

The British media has corrupt elements and those elements have a lot to answer for but you rather conventiently forget (or more likely didn't know going by your grasp of the facts thus far) that it was the Guardian that exposed the hacking scandal. The British media is both the best and worst in the world, as I've often maintained. Nothing in the last month changes my view; only that the worst are worse than I thought and the best better. And when it comes to exposing FIFA I'm rather proud of their work, Murdoch run or otherwise.

Perhaps, rather than repeatedly telling me not to post things against FIFA or against your World Cup, you could instead tell me why the head of your FA and the world cup he is organising deserves any of my interest or time given the outright xenophibia he has displayed recently? Replace the word British with the word "black" or "Jewish" in any of his remarks and you'd be the first to condemn him. I wonder why in this instance you fail to do so?

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Great post aluz. I notice RobH is a very patriotic dude and he's mad because Teixeira talked **** about his country but he should realize that Teixeira is not Brazil and the english FA representatives themselves probably don't even care what Teixeira says.

They needed to blame someone for wasting millions from the tax payers to do the cup and the successfully found the scapegoat.

In one year people wont even talk about this anymore and England will bid for the 2026WC you can be sure about that.

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Perhaps, rather than repeatedly telling me not to post things against FIFA or against your World Cup, you could instead tell me why the head of your FA and the world cup he is organising deserves any of my interest or time given the outright xenophibia he has displayed recently? Replace the word British with the word "black" or "Jewish" in any of his remarks and you'd be the first to condemn him. I wonder why in this instance you fail to do so?

RobH, all Brazilians here and in SSC are condemning him... Or are you blind? blink.gif

Man, whatever what you think. Sorry, you're wrong, and if you really doesn't want to watch or support any world cup because some sports-politician said something wrong about your country, do it. Maybe in few days you can decide not watch football anymore in your life!

Indeed, because England FA are not giving a damn to Teixeira, they confirmed yesterday FA is scheduling a match Brazil v England for the upcoming months.

And please, you are so free to post what you think here, even being a bit wrong or mad about things you probably should not, as many people are telling you (We are also so free to point this) wink.gif

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Brazil could do a lot of good for world football if they wanted.

If your President can see Teixeira for what he is perhaps he could make him step aside - put someone else in charge of your FA and your World Cup.

Normally that would lead to sanctions from Blatter who protects his inner circle. But what would FIFA do, suspend Brazil, the biggest footballing nation on Earth and hosts of the next world cup? Can't see it.

Well, we live in hope.

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Brazil could do a lot of good for world football if they wanted.

If your President can see Teixeira for what he is perhaps he could make him step aside - put someone else in charge of your FA and your World Cup.

Normally that would lead to sanctions from Blatter who protects his inner circle. But what would FIFA do, suspend Brazil, the biggest footballing nation on Earth and hosts of the next world cup? Can't see it.

Well, we live in hope.

CBF is a private entity, and according to Brazilian law, our President has no power to kick presidents of private entities away... And probably in UK is the same.

Also, you can't imagine how big it would be to Braziliansoccer-mad society to see our national squad out of a World Cup due FIFA sanctions. No politician would dare to put the country in this position or he/she could "be burned in public square" (metaphorically, of course - no capital punishment in Brazil).

As I pointed, it's a hopeless situation. The only hope is that Teixeira already announced he will leave CBF presidency after 2014... But, for sure, other like him will be the new president..

Unfortunatelly sports-politics stinks in the whole world, no exceptions. smile.gif

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And RobH, again, if I follow your way of thinking, so, I must be utterly against Madrid 2020, due the stupid commentary staff from Spanish Olympic Commitee made about Rio city and Brazil as whole.

I'm not against Madrid, and indeed, they can put a great show if they win 2020. A couple of idiots from Spain will not make me want a vendetta... I'll never think and have the same behaviour of them. smile.gif

Brazil could do a lot of good for world football if they wanted.

If your President can see Teixeira for what he is perhaps he could make him step aside - put someone else in charge of your FA and your World Cup.

Normally that would lead to sanctions from Blatter who protects his inner circle. But what would FIFA do, suspend Brazil, the biggest footballing nation on Earth and hosts of the next world cup? Can't see it.

Well, we live in hope.

CBF is a private entity, and according to Brazilian law, our President has no power to kick presidents of private entities away... And probably in UK is the same.

Also, you can't imagine how big it would be to Braziliansoccer-mad society to see our national squad out of a World Cup due FIFA sanctions. No politician would dare to put the country in this position or he/she could "be burned in public square" (metaphorically, of course - no capital punishment in Brazil).

As I pointed, it's a hopeless situation. The only hope is that Teixeira already announced he will leave CBF presidency after 2014... But, for sure, other like him will be the new president..

Unfortunatelly sports-politics stinks in the whole world, no exceptions. smile.gif

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And RobH, again, if I follow your way of thinking, so, I must be utterly against Madrid 2020, due the stupid commentary staff from Spanish Olympic Commitee made about Rio city and Brazil as whole.

I'm not against Madrid, and indeed, they can put a great show if they win 2020. A couple of idiots from Spain will not make me want a vendetta... I'll never think and have the same behaviour of them. smile.gif

Sorry for the double-posting... Something went wrong here wacko.gif

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I guess that's why he's so mad at brazil because our president didn't "kicked teixeira out". I dunno about how it works in England but in Brazil the president have no hierarchy over CBF.

In fact, they don't have any means to even threat teixeira because he refused all the 'public' money that CBF (just like every Olympic federation in Brazil) had rights.

In the past she could say: "step out or I will cut that influx of money" but today she can't do anything about him if she by following the law.

The only way to kick him out is by proving he committed a crime and talking **** about England FA is not a crime... If he was a politician the backlash would be too big and he would renounce in order to avoid further damages but he's not. He's an executive and he doesn't care what the public in England thinks about him.

Sorry RobH but we live in a democracy and by the letter of the law we can't do anything to impeach him...

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You have said it before, but once again, you're wrong, as you always are. :rolleyes:

My recent posts have NOTHING to do with the 2018 campaign. They have EVERYTHING to do with FIFA and a few of their members' anti-English agenda, and with the attitude of the man running your World Cup bid which is likely, if it continues, to turn a lot of people off your World Cup. It already turned me off the draw (which I normally would have watched), and as I see from reading SSC, coverage and perceptions of the World Cup in your own country is also being harmed by him.

You might want to write to your FA or FIFA or one of your newspapers rather than trying to change my mind by (strangely) calling me a fool me aluz. Just a thought. :rolleyes:

At least get some facts on your side before posting here, thank you. :rolleyes: It was the Times that ran big with the FIFA expose, not the NOTW. And the BBC have done just as much to expose FIFA as any News International publication and their reputation remains very high worldwide (unless you're a bore like Texiera and believe they are a "state organisation" who have an interest in getting the 2018 World Cup wrested away from Russia - perhaps the funniest bit of paranoia that has come from the idiot's mouth in the last week). :lol:

The British media has corrupt elements and those elements have a lot to answer for but you rather conventiently forget (or more likely didn't know going by your grasp of the facts thus far) that it was the Guardian that exposed the hacking scandal. The British media is both the best and worst in the world, as I've often maintained. Nothing in the last month changes my view; only that the worst are worse than I thought and the best better. And when it comes to exposing FIFA I'm rather proud of their work, Murdoch run or otherwise.

Perhaps, rather than repeatedly telling me not to post things against FIFA or against your World Cup, you could instead tell me why the head of your FA and the world cup he is organising deserves any of my interest or time given the outright xenophibia he has displayed recently? Replace the word British with the word "black" or "Jewish" in any of his remarks and you'd be the first to condemn him. I wonder why in this instance you fail to do so?

RobH,

You must see that you are wrong. You should take a good look at yourself and realize how pathetic this crusade is. Ricardo Teixeira was elected to CBF by an unanimous vote, running unopposed. Even SPFC, its biggest opponent, voted for him instead of abstaining as usual. Blatter was elected with more than 90% of the votes of the FIFA Congress, also unopposed. The vote was so high that even with Bin Hamman on the play I think he would win after all.

Second, the FA, and maybe the Australian one, is the only national federation not accepting the results of the 2018 vote and conducting this ridiculous crusade to try to remove the FIFA heads. If they think they are on the right side of things, they should instead build consensus with the other federations to do so. They could start with an UEFA rebellion for instance. Well, it turns out it won't work because Platini is a big Blatter ally and most of the European countries, including big leagues Spain, Italy and German are probably embarrassed by the current behaviour of the FA. So, there is no hope in changing anything. You might replace the people, but you will have the same kind of management.

You are so buried in the ridiculous assumptions about the pristine intentions of England and the FA that you can't see that there are no good guys in this story. Of course there is corruption. The case that the Times is trying to pull out now has appeared here in Brasil several times, because it is pretty old. The problem is that there is no evidence, since the settlement terms are confidential. Moreover, the reason for one's settling on a case is not only to admit guilt, but to prevent for having to face a costly, long and time consuming law suit.

But, anyway, it all started when NOTW probably tipped by the FA itself taped some FIFA ExCom members allegedly selling votes for 2018/22. It happens that these two guys ended up not voting, giving no space to discredit the voting system. But that's beside the point, since the British media is making generalizations about FIFA and its members, Teixeira felt that he could generalize his assumptions about the British media.

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You should take a good look at yourself and realize how pathetic this crusade is

I wasn't aware I was doing anything as grand as a crusade! Posting a few articles on the internet and saying how FIFA are tarnishing their own tournaments with their continued shambolic state is an opinion, not a crusade. If you don't like it, tought titties, doesn't mean it's wrong. :P But I'm glad I'm having as much impact as I seem to be having; that's certainly a good thing! A crusade eh?! :lol:

Since you can't seem to respond to any of my posts about FIFA without giving me a lecture on the FA of the country I happen to live in or the media of the country I happen to live in (both of which, from your recent posts, it's clear I know a lot more about than you do) let me ask you these questions:

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What about the Belgian, Norwegian, and German media? Are they on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

What about Transparency International? Are they on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

What about the Swiss Parliament who are trying to enact laws just because of recent FIFA grubiness? Are they on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

What about the MPs from several countries who have joined the International Partnership for the reform of FIFA? Are they on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

What about the respected German judge who resigned from the FIFA Ethic Committee stating they have no interest in cleaning themslves up? Is he on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did he lose?

What about the head of the ECU, also Bayern Munich Chairman, who has constantly been rallying against FIFA's dictatorial style and the lack of inputs clubs have? Is he and the clubs he represents on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

What about the 17 other countries who showed some balls and voted with England to postpone the FIFA Presidential elections? Are they on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

What about the IOC who are, as we speak, investigating members of their own who also happen to be members of FIFA? Are they on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

What about the Trinidad and Tobago players who were refused their tournamant pay by Jack Warner and had to go to court twice before they were eventually paid? Were they on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

What about Mastercard who successfully sued FIFA for their financial mismanagement of awarding contracts and the judge who was scathing of FIFA's practices? Were they on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

How about the 70,000 Germans who booed Sepp Blatter after the Women's World Cup final before the medal ceremony? Were they on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

What about those Brazilians protesting against Texieria during the draw? Were they on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

How about the Argentinians who are today protesting against Grondona and want him out? Are they on a pathetic crusade? Which World Cup bid did they lose?

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Our media and our FA have perhaps been the loudest in condemning FIFA (and the condemnation - certainly from the former - has been ongoing long before we lost the World Cup bid), but they are not "along with the Australians" the only ones. You seem to have a rather selective memory.

So, next time I post about FIFA aluz, either ignore my post or do me the kindness of firstly not denigrating my opinion because I happen to be British and secondly, not somehow confusing me for someone who works for the FA or the media. There are A LOT of people who don't like FIFA and who have made this clear through protests, resignations, campaigns, court cases, heckling, voting - but you haven't questioned their motives or brought up their nationality everytime they've spoken or acted. I'll ask you to extend the same courtesy to me and my opinion.

Thank you.

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It doesn't have nothing to do with the fact that you're from the country that's being attacked by Teixeira? Seriously? You told us otherwise at least 4 times in this thread and in the other one that you created...

Can anyone tell me why - as an Englishman - I should support your World Cup and why I should care in the slightest about its success or failure? If such rubbish came from Seb Coe I wouldn't expect anyone to support London 2012.

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It doesn't have nothing to do with the fact that you're from the country that's being attacked by Teixeira?

I didn't say that.

I was simply questioning why, whenever I say anything against FIFA, Aluz has to give me a lecture on the English FA and the British media as though the fact that I happen to come from the UK means I'm in no position to criticise. Every single time I post anything against FIFA I get the same bullshit from him.

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Because, somehow, RobH, you criticise FIFA and indirectly points that England FA is 100% right and they have only honest people on it, and you said you as British citizen can not support a World Cup because the president of Brazilian Federation fighted some British journalists.

All of them: FIFA, Brazilian FA president, England FA and British media are not saints and doesn't deserve any lawyer here in the threads, neither Brazilian nor English... smile.gif

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