baron-pierreIV Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 A Madrid vs. Rome race in 2020 could be great Yeah, great for Rome!! :laughlong: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted November 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 A Madrid vs. Rome race in 2020 could be great Yeah, great for Rome!! :laughlong: Yeah, Rome has to been grateful to compete against such a marvellous and glorious capital city as Madrid :laugh: ¡Jódete mamón, que te la he jugado! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 oh forget rome and madrid...cape town 2020...they all gonna get kicked!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Leipzig 2026 has no chance as OG´s 2036 will go to Berlin, that´s for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted November 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 oh forget rome and madrid...cape town 2020...they all gonna get kicked!!! We'll see :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 the only chance I can see for Madrid will be 2024, together with Rome and all the other Europeans. 2036 seems to be reserved for Berlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted November 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 the only chance I can see for Madrid will be 2024, together with Rome and all the other Europeans. 2036 seems to be reserved for Berlin. 2036 doesn't seem anything it's 31 years left!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Unfortunately Europe has only a chance every 12 years to get the Games as the other continents too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Posted November 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Unfortunately Europe has only a chance every 12 years to get the Games as the other continents too. Who has said that? Athens 2004- Torino 2006- London 2012- Maybe 2018- Maybe 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 the only chance I can see for Madrid will be 2024, together with Rome and all the other Europeans. 2036 seems to be reserved for Berlin. Who says? Since when has Berlin already been promised 2036. If you're talking anniversaries, the IOC has yet to award a centennial anniversary games to ANY city (and anyway, 2036 would be one of the least likely ones they would do so _ why would they want to mark the 100th anniversary of the Hitler Olympics?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 If 2036 there would have past more than 60 years after the last Summer Games in Germany. And Berlin is the top address in Germany. Also it would be a welcome sign to show the world that there are other Games possible in Germany than the Nazi-Games from 1936. Other cities in Germany are less attractive, I think. Berlin also could represent the whole world it´s new status after the wall has fallen. These are very good arguements for Berlin which I think no other city can provide in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 The fact is though, that if Athens didn't 1996, it just shows that the IOC is not interested in awarding centenary hostings to cities for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 I'm sure a Berlin Olympics would be phenomenal and I'm sure any candidature would be well received by the IOC, afterall the stereotypical german is very efficient! However, your justifications for being awarded the 2036 Games won't convince anyone. As roltel says the IOC hasn't awarded any city a centenial Games and Berlin would be perhaps their last choice if they were considering it. Also, it's only 33 years since the last German Summer Olympics in Munich, whereas it's 93 years since Stockholm or Sweden; 85 years since Antwerp or Belgium; and 77 since Amsterdam or the Netherlands hosted any Olympics at all. Then there are all the other countries all around the world that are capable of successful Games but haven't yet hosted at all - including European capitals such as Copenhagen, Prague or a Summer Games in Oslo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Sorry almost forgot Paris which hasn't had the Summer Games since 1924 - a major European capital! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Athens was in plan for 1996 but IOC decided for Atlanta so they got it 2004. 2000 it went to Sydney and 2006 it got Torino (with help of the Agnelli-family and Primo Nebbiolo) and so on. "Games" like this will happen also in future. Other cities are in the race, that´s true, like Brussels or Amsterdam which think about a bid for 2024 or 2036, but this is not quite clear. Maybe Stockholm ist interested, Sofia, Oslo or Prague. But in 2036 there are 70 years gone (not 33) since the last Games in Germany. Historic facts are not to decide but they are also to keep in consideration. We should not forget what has happened in this period and we should keep an eye on it, for our youth which doesn´t know what that all means. There are a huge number of candidates for only 2 dates (2024 and 2036) plus possible manipulations as stated before. But I´m pretty sure Berlin will be one of the top candidates for 2036, one of the strongest in Europe and well prepared for an event like the greatest sport event in world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Sorry but I don't understand the point you're trying to make - have Sydney and Torino been special examples of Olympics being awarded for particular anniversaries? I'm sure Berlin would do well in an Olympic bidding process whenever it decides to compete but reminding everyone of 1936 would be counterproductive and if they stated that it must be their turn in that year - that wouldn't wash with the IOC either, they see it as a gift more than a right. Berlin is an amazing city - It should concentrate on it's strengths, both in it's present and past, and not draw attention to it's weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 1996 was planned for Athens but because of several special interests the Games gone to Atlanta. The next change was in 2000 which was gone to Sydney, also because of special interests. Finally they got it 2004. Habe a look at Torino: until today I think they are not the right candidate because of a lot of problems in numerous areas which are still not resolved. In future we have several other candidates like Budapest (maybe 2020 or later). This would be also a strong candidate as Hungary never had any Games. Besides other candidates there will be also Berlin. It has to be decided which of them do the best job. But I´m pretty sure Berlin will be on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 As the president of USOC, Peter Ueberroth, said, it is necessary for any US bid city that governments on any level has to strongly support the bid. For me this is a sign that thew race will between Chicago - San Francisco - New York. Decision may be next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Besides the US and Asian candidates there are also European candidates like Prague, Budapest, Sofia, Madrid, Rome, Amsterdam and Brussels for 2016/2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Now New Delhi is one of the candidates which never had the OG´s. After Commonwealth Games in 2010, India will be one of the candidates for 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Marc Ganis, of Chicago-based sports marketing company SportsCorp. Ltd. said Chicago has the right mix of factors that could put it at the top of the list of U.S. cities hoping to host the Games. Along with hotels, transportation and available land, there is a strong corporate base from which to solicit potential financial support. “I think Chicago would be the best city in the United States to host the Olympics”. His company is playing a role in developing the Beijing 2008 Summer Games. This is from the latest news. It´s a good hint to choose Chicago. USOC should decide - for Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 In January the National Italian OC will decide over Italy´s candidate for 2016. I think this is nonsense as after 2012 London the next OG´s will be in America or Asia. The candidates from these continents will have much greater chances before a European candidate. Additionaly there are Winter Olympics 2006 in Torino so the next chance for an Italian candidate (Rome or Milan) will be 2020 or 2024. Both cities should save their money for a later bid. Also see the financial problems of Torino. It´s way to soon for Rome/Milan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 New Delhi will be a strong candidate for 2016 - but only when the budget is ok. There were never OG´s in this area so they might be possible for 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Dubai has not only venues for summer sport they also have a skiing hall (height about 110 meters, 450 meters long). They want to get a membership in FIS. This hall should soon be the greatest ski-doom in world and a whole-year training area with international ski-races (also nordic and biathlon). When having those venues they should be able to host summer games, too. A tale from 1001 nights. Costs for this venue 272 million $. There are more than 6,000 tons of snow necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 a few pictures: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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