Rob2012 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Well, exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted February 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 It doesn't really matter anyway as we all know that in any case bid book renders are always different from the eventual venues. Yeah, totally. I am just talking about bid details. Everything the bids spit out is filtered through hindsight that these are just plans to get the IOC swayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruling Czar Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Jim, I have to say that that's a very interesting idea! i really like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted February 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Jim, I have to say that that's a very interesting idea! i really like it! It wouldn't work. The field is too small, and is a bad location for such a huge venue. People would also flip out about Grant Park having such a huge venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzi Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Rio already send the Bid Book to IOC: http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Espor...SIE+RIO,00.html Translating the video: (I'm brazilian, so my english is very bad ) Rio 2016 dossier will be send today to IOC. The copies of the documents will be coiled in a canvas with suport messages with 70000 signatures of brazilians an tourists colected in Rio 2016 Wheel. Authorities and athletes take part in the ceremony. Another video with pictures of the Bid Book: http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Espor...A+O+COI,00.html Translating: Rio 2016 dossier is ready and will be sent to IOC in Switzerland. The stuff that have 970 lbs, is in the graphic and will be sent tomorrow to São Paulo, and then will be dispatched to Lausane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfm Jeremie Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Rio already send the Bid Book to IOC:http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Espor...SIE+RIO,00.html Translating the video: (I'm brazilian, so my english is very bad ) Rio 2016 dossier will be send today to IOC. The copies of the documents will be coiled in a canvas with suport messages with 70000 signatures of brazilians an tourists colected in Rio 2016 Wheel. Authorities and athletes take part in the ceremony. Another video with pictures of the Bid Book: http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Espor...A+O+COI,00.html Translating: Rio 2016 dossier is ready and will be sent to IOC in Switzerland. The stuff that have 970 lbs, is in the graphic and will be sent tomorrow to São Paulo, and then will be dispatched to Lausane. Thanks for the links. Looks quite nice too. Can't wait to discover the files this WE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim jones Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Hutchinson Field (where Obama gave his speech), is not large enough for an Olympic Stadium, and would basically shut down the downtown area. It would also pose more security and logistical issues. There were enough concerns when Obama staged his rally there... as of the last I checked, the archery venue is planned to be in Hutchinson Field, which should work perfectly.There is also this rule about no new buildings in Grant Park. An Olympic stadium would cause people to riot. what says you have to actually have a permanent Stadium for the Opening Ceremonies ? Where London 2012 is building what is a tier for 55,000 that could even be permanent Stadium if they did not tear down that post games. There are ways of doing huge stands with environmental impacts . Montreal did it ever year for the Canadian Grand Prix. Leyner Scaffolding , an Urban park Setting and you could have a unique Opening Ceremonies. Now that would stop the Show for Chicago. Jim jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted February 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I never posted anything negative about Chicago's use of a temporary stadium. I simply stated Hutchinson Field would not be the best location for the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim jones Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I never posted anything negative about Chicago's use of a temporary stadium. I simply stated Hutchinson Field would not be the best location for the stadium. I hear yah . that is no problem because I think what you might have thought with what I was saying was to install a new stadium in the downtown park Barrack Obama gave his victory speech in. I am thinking of something like this that was done for the Rolling Stones in Halifax Nova Scotia http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/1915225.jpg Stageco does the Temporary staging for the Olympics and also had staging work with the Rolling Stones. The Grandstands in the picture were from a separate company from Ontario but basically the same parts as the stage. Of course my though on a Temporary Ceremonies venue is on a scale that could have 80000 seats which is not a ground breaking construction job in regards to Leyner Scaffolding, Montreal has done it for decades with the Canadian Grand Prix with 100,000 plus for seating . The stuff has been around for ever and what does an opening and closing ceremonies require for the Floor ? It does not require the IAAF tartan track as those have been covered over in the last couple of Games openings. The Turf wasn't even in the Main stadium at Athens while the Opening ceremonies were going on . Overnight it was brought in with forklifts as it was a turf in Tray System with ITM Greentech of Georgia. It is all advance logistical planning of course . jim jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzi Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I can't wait to tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I can't wait to tomorrow. uh-huh. Madrid's the most foolish bid of the four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfm Jeremie Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 uh-huh. Madrid's the most foolish bid of the four. And the connection with Rio being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 And the connection with Rio being? Oops. U're right. But Madrid - Rio..., same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzi Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Tokyo Bid Book: http://www.tokyo2016.or.jp/en/plan/ A very good bid, but I don't think they will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzi Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Madrid Bid Book: http://www.madrid2016.es/es/nuestracandida...version=spa-eng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzi Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Rio will release the Bid Book only next week 02/16, but they release an sumary of the project (portuguese only): http://urutau.proderj.rj.gov.br/rio2016_im.../rio2016_pt.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted February 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Here is Chicago's bid book: http://www.chicago2016.org/our-plan/bid-book/bid-book.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzi Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 Forget what i said early. Here is Rio's Bid Book: http://www.rio2016.org.br/sumarioexecutivo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I expect the Rio bid to be full of lies and padding. Yeah, we want to convince the world with lies and padding... It's a safe choice to a bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Yeah, we want to convince the world with lies and padding... It's a safe choice to a bid. Danny, don't get too defensive. There's always great EXAGGERATION on these boards. You should know that by now. BTW, where have you Brazilians been all this time? My Ipanema girl (that actress) misses all of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 BTW, where have you Brazilians been all this time? My Ipanema girl (that actress) misses all of you. Yes, bring that lovely Latina toosh back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaring Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 BTW, where have you Brazilians been all this time? My Ipanema girl (that actress) misses all of you. Maybe they were working on the bid books, and now have some free time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyelBrazil Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 BTW, where have you Brazilians been all this time? My Ipanema girl (that actress) misses all of you. As we say in Brazil, Baron was with "saudade"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruling Czar Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 Yeah.......but everyone knows that the two hottest bid books in terms of interest will be Tokyo and Rio. THAT"S SOOOOOOOOOO OBVIOUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted March 1, 2009 Report Share Posted March 1, 2009 No it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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