Hansfromdenmark Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Qatar has just started Handball World championschip. And that is big for us danes. The openening match played at a brand new venue with room for 15.000 spectators in the middle of nowhere, There was around 2-3000 spectators... There have also been mentioned that Qatar has 17 World championschips within the next few years. It seems like the coming years have a lot of big fancy World championschips, but possible few spectators is my guess. Unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Qatar has just started Handball World championschip. And that is big for us danes. The openening match played at a brand new venue with room for 15.000 spectators in the middle of nowhere, There was around 2-3000 spectators... There have also been mentioned that Qatar has 17 World championschips within the next few years. It seems like the coming years have a lot of big fancy World championschips, but possible few spectators is my guess. Unfortunately. Read this yesterday.... Qatar sign Spain handball fans to cheer in championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 I think the Federations will give Qatar the various world champs (of mostly indoor events)...but the IOC won't give them the Big One...or at least I hope not. But that's what $$ can buy you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympicdreamin Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 To be fair, I went and looked at attendance numbers for the 2013 Handball World Cup in Spain and things weren't much better. The only difference is that Spain didn't build a new 15,000 seat arena for the event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 To be fair, I went and looked at attendance numbers for the 2013 Handball World Cup in Spain and things weren't much better. The only difference is that Spain didn't build a new 15,000 seat arena for the event. Well, Qatar is obviously only fulflling its "build-it-&-dey-will-come" mantra. So by the time they've hosted these 17 or so WCs and World Cup 2022, they would have ALL the venues necessary for a SOG; and I guess the IOC will just have to cave in some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinXTC Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Well, Qatar is obviously only fulflling its "build-it-&-dey-will-come" mantra. So by the time they've hosted these 17 or so WCs and World Cup 2022, they would have ALL the venues necessary for a SOG; and I guess the IOC will just have to cave in some time. They won't if it means moving the SOG to February. The WC will be stupid enough to give into a move that drastic but NOT the IOC, especially when SOG will most surely overlap with winter sports, which are sports that are relevant to the Olympics. They're not about to do something ridiculous like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 They won't if it means moving the SOG to February. The WC will be stupid enough to give into a move that drastic but NOT the IOC, especially when SOG will most surely overlap with winter sports, which are sports that are relevant to the Olympics. They're not about to do something ridiculous like that. Latin, that was said partly tongue-in-cheek. Of course, NO sane mind would want that to happen but stranger things have happened in this world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I don't think the IOC will choose Doha. They won't make the same mistake that Fifa did, especially with all the problems surrounding Fifa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plusbrilliantsexploits Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Well, Qatar is obviously only fulflling its "build-it-&-dey-will-come" mantra. So by the time they've hosted these 17 or so WCs and World Cup 2022, they would have ALL the venues necessary for a SOG; and I guess the IOC will just have to cave in some time. The IOC is a lot of things, but stupid they are not. What credible narrative could Doha even run with for an Olympic Games? The Nepotism and Elite 1% Olympiad? Good luck getting anyone inspired for that...and running the marathon in 45°C heat. The calendar alone (remember, it's the Olympic Summer Games) combined with the atrocious climate there will never let these games happen. Someone give me whatever those Qataris are smoking - because that's the only way I could explain their belief that Doha might get the games. It won't happen. Period. I don't think the IOC will choose Doha. They won't make the same mistake that Fifa did, especially with all the problems surrounding Fifa. Then again, FIFA is worse than the IOC under Samaranch...and that's saying something! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 The IOC is a lot of things, but stupid they are not. What credible narrative could Doha even run with for an Olympic Games? The Nepotism and Elite 1% Olympiad? Good luck getting anyone inspired for that...and running the marathon in 45°C heat. The calendar alone (remember, it's the Olympic Summer Games) combined with the atrocious climate there will never let these games happen. Someone give me whatever those Qataris are smoking - because that's the only way I could explain their belief that Doha might get the games. It won't happen. Period. The fact that FIFA gave Qatar a World Cup is exposing them for the sham that they are and is giving the IOC all the reasons they need (as if they needed any in the first place) to avoid Qatar like the plague. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Someone give me whatever those Qataris are smoking - because that's the only way I could explain their belief that Doha might get the games. It won't happen. Period. Their weed is called Petrodollars. Interesting article in German about the Qatari handball team here: http://www.spiegel.de/sport/sonst/handball-wm-2015-katar-kauft-sich-spieler-und-fans-a-1013907.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Yeah, money is what it is. Russia and Qatar showed the money, FIFA then gave them the FIFA World Cup hosting rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rols Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Yeah, money is what it is. Russia and Qatar showed the money, FIFA then gave them the FIFA World Cup hosting rights. Tony - the country is just called "Qatar". Not "Russia and Qatar". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Tony - the country is just called "Qatar". Not "Russia and Qatar". Well, they are two different Countries, but they both had corrupt bids IMO. The bidding process was corrupt, Qatar and Russia doesn't have the best record with corruption. Fifa accepted money from both Russia and Qatar IMO, so I disagree with you on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikarus360 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 With Russia now facing the consequences, economicaly wise, of their actions last year (and they are still acting behind the curtain in Ukraine civil war), I wonder if they will be able to finish the stadiums now. I mean, they have taken aeons to build the St. Petersburg stadium for example. Putin understimated Europe and they thought they could use the petrodollars and Gas to blackmail them (something even the USSR didn't do) but they forgot Europe has now plenty of regasification plants. You can have all the oil in the world but if you try to face the world on your own, the world will make you kneel to them. Same which happened to Saudi Arabia in the 70's and now Venezuela. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 We tend to overthink the cost of these events in the grand scheme of things. Depending upon how you count, Russia has an economy of $2 - $3.5 trillion. Even if the economy gets hammered, the costs of the World Cup is a blip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 We tend to overthink the cost of these events in the grand scheme of things. Depending upon how you count, Russia has an economy of $2 - $3.5 trillion. Even if the economy gets hammered, the costs of the World Cup is a blip. Depends on the country. For Russia and Brazil and countries with GDP measured in the trillions, it's smaller. For a countries like Greece and South Africa not on the higher end of the spectrum, it's a little bit more than a blip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulsa Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/27/world-cup-2022-qatar-fifa-vote-rerun-council-of-europe Maybe Fifa should vote again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plusbrilliantsexploits Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/27/world-cup-2022-qatar-fifa-vote-rerun-council-of-europe Maybe Fifa should vote again... They won't. Just like they're not going to remove Blatter. Too many people benefit from the system - most notably the developing countries... Plus, it's ironic that the Council of Europe (under whose auspices the European Convention of Human Rights was signed) calls for Qatar to be taken out, but doesn't say a peep about Russia... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/27/world-cup-2022-qatar-fifa-vote-rerun-council-of-europe Maybe Fifa should vote again... What power does the Council have over FIFA? Probably at most, to save face, FIFA might just altogether cancel 2022 rather than ask another station to step in, to cause the least embarrassment for the Arab world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plusbrilliantsexploits Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 What power does the Council have over FIFA? None. The only thing that could get FIFA is an indictment by a well-funded prosecutor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Now they are thinking about hosting the 2022 Fifa World Cup in November or December 2022. It's ridiculous, it should be June and July 2022, if they can't host it then, don't host at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Now they are thinking about hosting the 2022 Fifa World Cup in November or December 2022. It's ridiculous, it should be June and July 2022, if they can't host it then, don't host at all. Tony, that's just making the best of a disaster. FIFA made their bed; let them lay on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulsa Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Really I can imagine a boycot from European countries about Qatar 2022. I'm pretty sure, the world cup won't be in Qatar in 2022. Nobody wants this world cup there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Really I can imagine a boycot from European countries about Qatar 2022. I'm pretty sure, the world cup won't be in Qatar in 2022. Nobody wants this world cup there. I can't see an outright boycott... I can see the Euro leagues doing a backdoor boycott by refusing to move their schedules around. Likely? No, But possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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