plusbrilliantsexploits Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Maybe, the Football world needs to get together and start a new Fifa. You do realize that this essentially what others, including myself, have already said on this thread. Any original insights from you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox334 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Well, the farce is finally over! FIFA has officially stripped Qatar of... the 2021 Confederation Cup. Because they finally realized it's too bloody hot during the summer and that moving the tournament to the winter is impractical. Now if only they had thought of that a couple of years earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshi Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Every time you think they can't make this any more farcical, they find a way...it would be hysterical if the lives of thousands of people (not to mention the integrity of football) weren't at risk :/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Fifa don't care. As long as Fifa gets the money, nothing else matters in Fifa's mind. We either live with it, or the Football world does something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Well, the farce is finally over! FIFA has officially stripped Qatar of... the 2021 Confederation Cup. Because they finally realized it's too bloody hot during the summer and that moving the tournament to the winter is impractical. Now if only they had thought of that a couple of years earlier. The thing was, no one really took the Khatar bid seriously. That was the tragedy of it. And what's even worse, most of the 14 yutzes who voted for Khatar won't even be around in 7 years to "enjoy" the mess they created. Blame it all on Mike Lee for creating a winning campaign for those Bedouins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony E Loves Architecture Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Exactly, which makes Qatar's bid even more corrupt. No one in their right mind gave Qatar any chance, then they host? Fifa keep digging a deeper and deeper hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotosy Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Qatar World Cup: Final on December 18, 2022 (CNN)The 2022 World Cup final in Qatar will be held on December 18 -- the Gulf state's national day. The decision was made by FIFA at an executive meeting in Zurich, Switzerland on Thursday. FIFA, world football's global governing body, decided to move the tournament to the Qatari winter following fears over the intense summer temperatures. CNN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox334 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 They managed to piss off both North American and European broadcasters, and yet this is still probably the most reasonable timeframe to hold the tournament in such an unreasonable venue. I'm almost tempted to say "well done, FIFA". Almost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Sheesh. Damn thing finally settled. Yup; no deaths from the heat -- but deaths from extremists for sure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Sheesh. Damn thing finally settled. Yup; no deaths from the heat -- but deaths from extremists for sure!! You forgot the poor sods building the stadiums. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plusbrilliantsexploits Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 It's just one giant Qatarstrophe! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Slaves Forced to Run Marathon Shoeless in QatarIn an effort to break a Guinness World Record, a Qatari sports club reportedly bused in migrant workers and forced them to run in a state-sponsored “megamarathon” in Doha last Friday.Many of the workers were said to have run the race in flip-flops and jeans and, according to Doha News, some laborers “tried to leave but were turned back and were yelled at that they need to stay and cross the line.”According to the race’s official site, the marathon was created to illustrate a “decisive response to the campaign waged by the sector of envious haters on the success of Qatar to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup, and to their false allegations of persecution of workers and residents in our beloved country.”.http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/02/slaves-to-run-shoeless-in-qatar.html Edited April 6, 2015 by Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningrings Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Slaves Forced to Run Marathon Shoeless in Qatar In an effort to break a Guinness World Record, a Qatari sports club reportedly bused in migrant workers and forced them to run in a state-sponsored “megamarathon” in Doha last Friday. Many of the workers were said to have run the race in flip-flops and jeans and, according to Doha News, some laborers “tried to leave but were turned back and were yelled at that they need to stay and cross the line.” According to the race’s official site, the marathon was created to illustrate a “decisive response to the campaign waged by the sector of envious haters on the success of Qatar to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup, and to their false allegations of persecution of workers and residents in our beloved country.” .http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/02/slaves-to-run-shoeless-in-qatar.html Vile, despicable place. I don't even like the idea of flying via Doha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krow Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 Report: Sepp Blatter Too Afraid Of The FBI To Enter The United StatesSlavery-enabler Sepp Blatter might actually be facing consequences for how FIFA awarded the 2018 and 2022 World Cup bids to Russia and Qatar. ESPN’s investigative newsmagazine show, E:60, debuted an hour-long documentary on Blatter tonight, and reports that he is so fearful of an FBI investigation into bribery and corruption during the bidding process that he has decided not to step foot on U.S. soil: http://screamer.deadspin.com/report-sepp-blatter-too-afraid-of-the-fbi-to-enter-the-1704086341 absolutely delicious. (even better was the commenter who said "Luckily for Blatter, all he needs to do to avoid U.S. surveillance is stay out of the country.") 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Fifa to investigate arrest of BBC news team in QatarTeam was on official visit to inspect migrant workers’ accommodation after outcry over conditions for those building 2022 World Cup stadiums.Football’s governing body, Fifa, has launched an investigation after a BBC news team was arrested in Qatar while reporting on the plight of migrant workers building stadiums for the 2022 World Cup.The four-strong crew had been invited by the Qatari’s prime minister’s office on an official tour of new accommodation for construction workers. It was part of a public relations drive in the wake of an international outcry over the slave-like conditions for workers exposed by a Guardian investigation.But despite official permission to report in Qatar, the crew were arrested by the security services, interrogated and jailed for two days before being released without charge.The Qatari government defended the arrests and accused the BBC crew of trespassing.Fifa, which has been repeatedly criticised for the way Qatar won the bid to host the 2022 World Cup, was helping to run the tour. It said it was investigating the arrests. “Any instance relating to an apparent restriction of press freedom is of concern to Fifa and will be looked into with the seriousness it deserves,” it said in a statement.The BBC’s Middle East correspondent, Mark Lobel, was one of those detained, along with his cameraman, a driver and translator.Speaking about his ordeal, Lobel said his interrogators never explained why he had been detained but showed him surveillance photographs of his movements in Qatar. “They had actually photographed my every move since I arrived,” Lobel told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.After their release, members of the team were allowed to take part in the official tour of a migrant accommodation block but their equipment remained confiscated and Qatar has offered no explanation or apology for the arrests.“We are fine,” Lobel said. “The worrying sign of this is that it might be a crackdown on the media to deal with the problem at the same time that other parts of the government are trying to change their image.”In an article for BBC News, he added: “Whatever the explanation, Qatar’s Jekyll-and-Hyde approach to journalism has been exposed by the spotlight that has been thrown on it after winning the World Cup bid.”Qatar’s head of communications, Saif al-Thani, said the BBC crew were arrested after departing from an official tour. He said: “We gave the reporters free rein to interview whomever they chose and to roam unaccompanied in the labour villages.“Perhaps anticipating that the government would not provide this sort of access, the BBC crew decided to do their own site visits and interviews in the days leading up to the planned tour. In doing so, they trespassed on private property, which is against the law in Qatar just as it is in most countries. Security forces were called and the BBC crew was detained.”No apology was issued, but Thani added: “The problems that the BBC reporter and his crew experienced could have been avoided if they had chosen to join the other journalists on the press tour. They would have been able to visit – in broad daylight – the very camps they tried to break into at night. Reporters from the Associated Press, AFP, the Guardian and Le Monde have filed stories on what they saw and heard in Qatar, and we invite interested readers to review their reports, which are available online.”“By trespassing on private property and running afoul of Qatari laws, the BBC reporter made himself the story. We sincerely hope that this was not his intention. Moreover, we deeply regret that he was unable to report the real story, which is that the government and the private sector are making significant progress in efforts to improve the lives and the labour conditions of guest workers in Qatar.”Human Rights Watch, which has highlighted Qatar’s poor record on labour conditions, described the arrests as “jaw-droppingly awful PR”. It pointed out that last week a German television crew was also arrested on a tour of Qatar.HRW Gulf researcher Nicholas McGeehan said: “Qatar put itself in the harshest of spotlights when it won the right to host 2022 and this is not the way to deal with the inevitable press attention. If it wants to put an end to media criticism, it needs to make some serious reforms to its labour system. Claiming that the arrest and intimidation of BBC journalists was legitimate on account of their “trespassing” is probably the lowest point so far in a dismal series of PR disasters.”http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/18/fifa-to-investigate-arrest-of-bbc-news-team-in-qatar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Yup, give all those prized championship events to the Qataris!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanMUC Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 You couldn't make it up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Once you've been accused of killing more people than the 9/11 attacks, does arresting a few reporters really harm your reputation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Once you've been accused of killing more people than the 9/11 attacks, does arresting a few reporters really harm your reputation? Very much so, actually. We all have a pretty good idea how these migrant workers from other countries get treated when they come to Qatar, even if it's false pretenses that get them there. If the Qataris are now going out and arresting and detaining journalists, how's that going to look for other journalists that might visit the country. Or fans who would attend the World Cup. Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchbearerSydney Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Poor workers in Qatar..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacre Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I normally try and defend developing countries over huan rights and environmental issues because western societies tend to compare developing countries to modern first world countries as opposed to where they were at a similar period in their own histories. China is currently a smoggy mess, but the USA and the UK were also polluted and miserable when they were the factories of the world. The Qatari worker issue really is indefensible, though. Something like a dozen to two dozen people died digging the Thames Tunnel (the world's first underwater tunnel) in the 1860's. About a half dozen people died building the Empire State Building. Twenty seven people died building the Brooklyn Bridge, in part due to a lack of awareness about decompression sickness. But for thousands of workers to be dying building stadiums and housing is inexplicable, and not even comparable to the projects of a century (or two) ago in western societies. 3,500 deaths is likely more than the total number of Chinese deaths building all of the western railroads in the United States with similarly racially-stigmatized Asian workers in the 1860's and 1870's. When you compare the scope of construction between the two and safety equipment available today vs back then, that's astounding. It can't even be defended on the basis of heat: the western USA is full of deserts too, and it was much harder to get fresh water into Death Valley in the 1860's than it is to Qatar today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I cannot find the link anymore but there was an article about two months or so ago that offered a solution to the whole Qatar World Cup mess, especially with the tournament being moved to the winter months. It centered on two points. First, while FIFA can mandate clubs release players for their national teams, FIFA cannot mandate which players get chosen. In protest, European powerhouses along with the likes of Mexico, Brazil, and the U.S. should select "B teams" most likely under 20 squads to send to the World Cup. Second, get a number of big time billionaire sports team owners such as Mark Cuban, Jerry Jones, Paul Allen, to organize a one-time rival tournament with the top players promising them nice paychecks, more than they could receive even as a member of a World Cup championship team. FIFA and Blatter would go insane, but really what could they do, ban powerful UEFA team from competition. Like I said before, it's a lot easier to suspend a federation such as Myanmar than it is to go after one of the big boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nacre Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) There's no need to send a U-21 team to the World Cup at all, since teams have to qualify for the tournament. If Germany does not want to take part in the World Cup, they can simply field a terrible team in the qualification matches and thus fail to qualify. The problem is that the players, coaches, FA officials, etc have their livelihoods based on the performance of the team in the World Cup, so they don't want to skip the tournament. And if the politicians of a country order the coaches and officials to tank the tournament, then FIFA can suspend them on the grounds of political interference in football. The only way for FIFA to really be hurt by a boycott is for fans and sponsors to do the boycotting. Edited May 19, 2015 by Nacre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 There's no need to send a U-21 team to the World Cup at all, since teams have to qualify for the tournament. If Germany does not want to take part in the World Cup, they can simply field a terrible team in the qualification matches and thus fail to qualify. The problem is that the players, coaches, FA officials, etc have their livelihoods based on the performance of the team in the World Cup, so they don't want to skip the tournament. And if the politicians of a country order the coaches and officials to tank the tournament, then FIFA can suspend them on the grounds of political interference in football. The only way for FIFA to really be hurt by a boycott is for fans and sponsors to do the boycotting. FIFA would not suspend the likes of Germany, England, Brazil, etc. on political grounds. Maybe a public scolding and a fine, but FIFA knows where the bread and butter comes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2012 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 No sign of a boycott here. England is planning on winning 2022, it was Officially Announced today. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/19/martin-glenn-england-2022-world-cup-qatar-man-on-the-moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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