memorabilia Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 I doubt that the IOC will award Olympic Games to a city, which uses venues in another country - altough you should never say never - therefore I think these possible venues, which are mentioned in a local newspaper, would be better...It is interesting that Ski acrobatique is given to Valberg and not to Beuil, too. As i said, this map is nothing official and may be realised by people that do not know nothing about olympics. Valberg is bigger than Beuil and could be the official host for those nordic events ! Regarding the use of venues in Italy, for sure it will be a premiere... but i am sure they (people from the bid) already start to have contact to see if it was possible (with french IOC members, Prince Albert from Monaco...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 As i said, this map is nothing official and may be realised by people that do not know nothing about olympics.Valberg is bigger than Beuil and could be the official host for those nordic events ! I am aware that this is just "a proposal" of some local journalists and not the official bid... Regarding the use of venues in Italy, for sure it will be a premiere... but i am sure they (people from the bid) already start to have contact to see if it was possible (with french IOC members, Prince Albert from Monaco...) Does Prince Albert have influence on the French NOC and its decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memorabilia Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Does Prince Albert have influence on the French NOC and its decisions? I could not say for sure YES, but i'm think he is often consulted by the French NOC on olympic questions... He was known to be very close from Paris 2012 Bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memorabilia Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 The Logos... The official ones : Grenoble Nice Pelvoux Annecy (not official) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Why are these French cities/towns doing this dance? Do they really think a French candidate has a chance for 2018? I like Nice but...uhmmm... Sochi will have just done that winter-palm tree thing, so even that angle won't be a novel approach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenica Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Ha.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Why are these French cities/towns doing this dance? Do they really think a French candidate has a chance for 2018? I like Nice but...uhmmm... Sochi will have just done that winter-palm tree thing, so even that angle won't be a novel approach... As I explained in a previous post elsewhere, this "dance" is just a self gratification exercise by Henri Sérandour to cover his incompetence over 2012 and the "badge affair" at the Beijing 2008 Games. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_S%C3%A9randour (in French) Unfortunately I was shouted off the forum by people who don't like to see their agendas challenged..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfm Jeremie Posted November 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Unfortunately I was shouted off the forum by people who don't like to see their agendas challenged..... Agenda Paranoia anyone? Shouted off You are the one who couldn't stand that facts didn't fit your opinion. And BTW, I, as well as others, have been very critical about the CNOSF behaviour in the past few years and, unlike yourself blaming an "Anglo-saxon conspiracy" for Paris 2012 failure, I acknowledge that poor French PR and involvement in the Olympic Movement in general was a key factor in France Olympic bid repeated failures. But I have also acknowledged that the CNOSF has evolved this past year: the transparency around the 2018 domestic bid process is a first. Also a first is the clear statement that, win or lose, any 2018 bid should leave a legacy. I still think that the chance of France winning 2018 is, at best, very small. However, it's important for France to be involved in the Olympic Movement and to build strong relationship with its actors. As for Sérandour, he is stepping down next year (it's about time) sooooo I don't see what he could possibly gain from the 2018 bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfale Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Is there any possibility, that France stops its bid in favor of Munich's bid? Germany would certainly support the French bid for the EURO 2016, if the French withdraw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Is there any possibility, that France stops its bid in favor of Munich's bid? Germany would certainly support the French bid for the EURO 2016, if the French withdraw. Germany already played that card for the 2011 Women's World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 As I explained in a previous post elsewhere, this "dance" is just a self gratification exercise by Henri Sérandour to cover his incompetence over 2012 and the "badge affair" at the Beijing 2008 Games. That is a interesting hypothesis, but I doubt that it is true, since if this bid is to cover up Henry Sérandour's incompetence over 2012 isn't the possibility to loose the bid for 2018, too, not counterproductive? I mean isn't two lost bids not more bad as one lost bid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfale Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Germany already played that card for the 2011 Women's World Cup. Yeah, but does it really matter? France is nothing in Womens Football compared to Germany. Nobody took their bid seriously. I doubt, that the French really wanted to host the World Cup. If the French want to avoid another humiliation, they have to withdraw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 But you can't really say - well we made a deal to trade support for the 2016 Euro and the 2011 Women's World Cup, but we know want your support for the 2018 Winter Olympics too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfm Jeremie Posted December 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Annecy's official website is up: Annecy 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memorabilia Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 The Annecy 2018's official logo : http://www.annecy-2018.fr/ The Logos...The official ones : Grenoble Nice Pelvoux Annecy (not official) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Oh dear. As I (more or less) predicted, all this is going pear shaped! http://www.tsr.ch/tsr/index.html?siteSect=...y=1225900272000 http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jNV6SK...zm-HEhINaFiFtcA http://www.sport24.com/autres-sports/fil-i...randour-211483/ http://www.nicerendezvous.com/FR/NICE-JEUX...OUR-n-4466.html For those without a French dictionary, the articles reveal how Bernard Laporte (French sports minister) and Sérandour are at each other's throat over how long presidents of French sporting federation can remain in office. Laporte wants a 4 year term renewable once and Sérandour is violently against claiming the dispute will have an adverse effect on the 2018 WOG bids. It's going to end in tears, I tell ya..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memorabilia Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Annecy's venues : Chamonix & Morzine-Avoriaz : Alpine Skiing La Clusaz : Nordic Skiing & ski jumping Le Grand Bornand : biathlon. Flaine : Snowboarding Annecy : Ice skating events La plaine de Mont-Blanc, Megève & Chamonix : hockey Saint-Gervais : Curling 80% of the venues are already existing. 2 ice-skating arenas, the ice-rink and the ski-jumping stadium have to be built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Annecy's official website is up:Annecy 2018 ohh - I didn't know that Andre Dussolier is from Annecy - he is on the website mentioned as "ambassador" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FYI Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 I haven't been following this, so is France bidding for 2018, & if so, with what town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Annecy's venues :Chamonix & Morzine-Avoriaz : Alpine Skiing La Clusaz : Nordic Skiing & ski jumping Le Grand Bornand : biathlon. Flaine : Snowboarding Annecy : Ice skating events La plaine de Mont-Blanc, Megève & Chamonix : hockey Saint-Gervais : Curling 80% of the venues are already existing. 2 ice-skating arenas, the ice-rink and the ski-jumping stadium have to be built. where would luge/skeleton/bobsleigh take place? I haven't been following this, so is France bidding for 2018, & if so, with what town. Annecy, Grenoble, Nice and Pelvoux want to bid - the French NOC decides if France will bid for 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfm Jeremie Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 New Pelvoux Ecrins web site (and logo): http://www.pelvoux-ecrins-2018.com/default.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memorabilia Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 where would luge/skeleton/bobsleigh take place? In La Plagne (the Albertville's venue) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canary Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Proposal Venues (official) Annecy Grenoble (Page 4) Pelvoux-Écrins Any news from Nice?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citius Altius Fortius Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Annecy and Grenoble use "La Plagne" as venue of the luge/bobsleigh/skeleton-run - I wonder which city is prefered by La Plagne for the 2018 bid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfm Jeremie Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 For those of you interested (and speaking French obviously), the presentation of the 4 French potential applicant cities to the CNOSF will be broadcasted live on the CNOSF website (I have to say, I am favourably impressed by the transparency, so far, of the French selection procedure) at: CNOSF Website Starting time: 13h45 French time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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