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IDK in Canada but the seem to have a growing profile, because of the media coverage. But after 2015 they will go back to be non-existent in Canadian eyes.

I was curious because they definitely wouldn't be high profile at all in the states. There was a time when the PanAms were much more popular here, and they actually were televised on a major US network. I remember some classic boxing matches back when the Cubans and Americans were two of the top teams in the world. I'm sure the PanAms would still be a good event to attend if it's in your backyard, but I can't see a lot of people shelling out for plane tickets and a hotel room to attend. It seems like the Women's World Cup is a higher profile event, but maybe that's just my perspective from following women's soccer since I first saw in in Atlanta. I actually will probably try to attend a few WWC games wherever the US team ends up, but I think I'd rather get to Toronto for an Orioles/Blue Jays game than for the PanAms.

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I was curious because they definitely wouldn't be high profile at all in the states. There was a time when the PanAms were much more popular here, and they actually were televised on a major US network. I remember some classic boxing matches back when the Cubans and Americans were two of the top teams in the world. I'm sure the PanAms would still be a good event to attend if it's in your backyard, but I can't see a lot of people shelling out for plane tickets and a hotel room to attend. It seems like the Women's World Cup is a higher profile event, but maybe that's just my perspective from following women's soccer since I first saw in in Atlanta. I actually will probably try to attend a few WWC games wherever the US team ends up, but I think I'd rather get to Toronto for an Orioles/Blue Jays game than for the PanAms.

Well too bad for you. 250,000 visitors are anticipated.

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I was curious because they definitely wouldn't be high profile at all in the states. There was a time when the PanAms were much more popular here, and they actually were televised on a major US network. I remember some classic boxing matches back when the Cubans and Americans were two of the top teams in the world. I'm sure the PanAms would still be a good event to attend if it's in your backyard, but I can't see a lot of people shelling out for plane tickets and a hotel room to attend. It seems like the Women's World Cup is a higher profile event, but maybe that's just my perspective from following women's soccer since I first saw in in Atlanta. I actually will probably try to attend a few WWC games wherever the US team ends up, but I think I'd rather get to Toronto for an Orioles/Blue Jays game than for the PanAms.

Don't compare Canada to the US. Every Canadian sporting achievement and event means a lot to Canadians, because we dont win 90+ medals every games and don't have the opportunity to host major international events all the time. I'm glad that I don't root for the Americans because winning an event is just another medal, nothing more. There are no national heroes.

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Don't compare Canada to the US. Every Canadian sporting achievement and event means a lot to Canadians, because we dont win 90+ medals every games and don't have the opportunity to host major international events all the time. I'm glad that I don't root for the Americans because winning an event is just another medal, nothing more. There are no national heroes.

I'm not comparing them, which is why I asked in the first place. I basically was wondering if Canadians beyond the Toronto area were interested in the PanAms, or if they're apathetic like Americans would be if they were held in the USA. Secondarily, I was also wondering how interest in the PanAms compared to the WWC, which, as I stated, is of particular interest to me personally. I don't think those are unreasonable questions to ask of people on this board. No offense intended.

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I'm not comparing them, which is why I asked in the first place. I basically was wondering if Canadians beyond the Toronto area were interested in the PanAms, or if they're apathetic like Americans would be if they were held in the USA. Secondarily, I was also wondering how interest in the PanAms compared to the WWC, which, as I stated, is of particular interest to me personally. I don't think those are unreasonable questions to ask of people on this board. No offense intended.

I think both events will be successful. I do see media from Vancouver reporting on the games it self. The WWC is likely to get more coverage because its a more international event after all.

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I'm not comparing them, which is why I asked in the first place. I basically was wondering if Canadians beyond the Toronto area were interested in the PanAms, or if they're apathetic like Americans would be if they were held in the USA. Secondarily, I was also wondering how interest in the PanAms compared to the WWC, which, as I stated, is of particular interest to me personally. I don't think those are unreasonable questions to ask of people on this board. No offense intended.

Yeah, sorry. I came off as pretty agrresive there lol. Everyone outside of Ontario could probably care less about the games right now, but by 2015, with the amount of coverage that CBC is devoting, I would expect there to be excitement for the games, especially right after the WWC.

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Just as I suspected:

Flooding damages whitewater course

“The huge flow through the dam and Horseshoe Lake has caused significant damage to the infrastructure of the whitewater course at the Minden Wild Water Preserve,” preserve site manager Russ Duhaime wrote in email to the paper. A vital wall at the top of the course has been toppled.

The engineered course, created in 1972, is the property of Parks Canada and the Ministry of Natural Resources.

It is scheduled to be the venue for the whitewater events at the Toronto 2015 Pan Am/Parapan Games.

According to Duhaime, a wall of large concrete blocks that used to extend from bank to bank and served to funnel water onto the side of the main channel, has been ruined.

The course is located just below the dam at Horseshoe Lake, where the Trent Severn Waterway has been holding back large amounts of water in order to prevent further flooding of Minden.

On Monday, some logs had been removed from the dam, and torrents of water were gushing into the river.

“Now that the wall has toppled, the river splits into two channels around the island,” Duhaime wrote. “You can clearly see this from the top of the dam. The fear is once the water recedes, the flow will split, and neither channel will have enough water to be useful.”

Duhaime was hoping disaster relief funding might be able to help pay for repairs.

Minden Hills Reeve Barb Reid was aware of the damage, and said the Pan Am organization would be sending a consultant to assess the damage.

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They really should have chosen Glen Abbey for golf. It is the best course around, and it is closer than Angus Glen.

Angus Glen is not confirmed. I think its because logistically it would be easier with the Markham Pan Am Centre being there as well.

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