kernowboy Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Exactly, some venues aren't even decided yet! I still don't get that once it became clear that in mid summer 2010, that Hamilton was rapidly becoming not an opton, that the Committee did not immediately pursue a waterfront option especially especially as the York location had already been rejected for a MLS and CFL stadium due to its remoteness. Whilst 2007 was an excellent stringboard for Rio successfully winning the 2016 games, 9 years later, Toronto seem to be striving for the complete opposite. Can you imagine a Joao Havelange Olympic Stadium built for 40,000 in the eastern portlands close to the village, ready to be expanded for the 2024 games? Talk about a missed opportunity. The irony is with over 3 years to go, it would be possible even now to build something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 I still don't get that once it became clear that in mid summer 2010, that Hamilton was rapidly becoming not an opton, that the Committee did not immediately pursue a waterfront option especially especially as the York location had already been rejected for a MLS and CFL stadium due to its remoteness. Whilst 2007 was an excellent stringboard for Rio successfully winning the 2016 games, 9 years later, Toronto seem to be striving for the complete opposite. Can you imagine a Joao Havelange Olympic Stadium built for 40,000 in the eastern portlands close to the village, ready to be expanded for the 2024 games? Talk about a missed opportunity. The irony is with over 3 years to go, it would be possible even now to build something similar. Micheal Thompson a councilor suggested venues be built as big as Olympic venues, however nothing seems to have changed. Also for the venues that haven't been decided I was referring to baseball/softball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowboy Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 Micheal Thompson a councilor suggested venues be built as big as Olympic venues, however nothing seems to have changed. Also for the venues that haven't been decided I was referring to baseball/softball I'm a big fan of making things scaleable. Often a stadium is built and it is then really expensive to expand it. The Joao Havelange was built at 46,000 but easily increasable to over 60,000. Reading about athletics, have they actually settled on the site yet? It does seem ridiculous that the Skydome is possibly only going to be used for ceremonies. Why not close the roof and use all that interior space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I'm a big fan of making things scaleable. Often a stadium is built and it is then really expensive to expand it. The Joao Havelange was built at 46,000 but easily increasable to over 60,000. Reading about athletics, have they actually settled on the site yet? It does seem ridiculous that the Skydome is possibly only going to be used for ceremonies. Why not close the roof and use all that interior space? Yes its at York University here is a map: http://www.yorku.ca/web/maps/KEELE_Map.pdf Where building 6 is right now will be demolished and a 12,500 seat venue will replace it. Rogers center was supposed to host baseball, but that seems to be off as it was reported that Hamilton was offered it. I think its because it would be hard to convert from the ceremony stage to a baseball diamond, here's hoping for a grand opening ceremony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I think my head is spinning. Is it just me or there is still more "decisions" to be made on sport venue sites, never mind getting them built or upgraded? For starters, I am certainly not wanting Toronto 2015 look like a repeat of Montreal 1976! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I think my head is spinning. Is it just me or there is still more "decisions" to be made on sport venue sites, never mind getting them built or upgraded? For starters, I am certainly not wanting Toronto 2015 look like a repeat of Montreal 1976! Only venue not decided is baseball/softball and wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Just a piece of info, Mario Vazquez Rana when speaking to reporters yesterday said the Toronto games will be "better" then the ones of Guadalajara and at almost an Olympic level" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted March 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Hamilton won't even touch the baseball/softball proposal from the Pan Am committee, council voted no this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Hamilton won't even touch the baseball/softball proposal from the Pan Am committee, council voted no this evening. Unless a feasible plan comes through no city should. I wonder what happened with Richmond Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Looks like Women's baseball is confirmed which is hard to believe considering only 6 teams from the Americas are ranked in the world rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Here is a comic from the Hamilton Spectator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Venue changes: Karate (from downtown Toronto) and Wrestling (from Brampton) have been moved to Mississauga. While Bowling and Roller sports have been moved from Mississauga to somewhere in Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Mata Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 If I remember well, the last three editions of the PanAms were chosen with 5 years of advance. Toronto was chosen 6 years ahead of 2015 and the recent news give the impression the organizers are really taking their time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 If I remember well, the last three editions of the PanAms were chosen with 5 years of advance. Toronto was chosen 6 years ahead of 2015 and the recent news give the impression the organizers are really taking their time... More time then expected All venues should be done by FEb 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deawebo Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Any renders on TO 2015's venues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Any renders on TO 2015's venues? Only the Markham Pan Am Centre has had its design finalized -.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Some renderings of the venues: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Track and Field Stadium Plans. *Note stadium will seat 12,500 with temporary seating and is just a 2 minute walk from where I study Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimena Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 I'm sure Toronto will organize the best Pan Ams ever! But i think they need to hurry with some venues planing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 I'm sure Toronto will organize the best Pan Ams ever! But i think they need to hurry with some venues planing. They have all venues finalized most will start in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 The Opening ceremony will be "simple" -.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormiermax Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Well, you cant expect anything Olympic calibre. Not totally sure what they mean by "Simple" though, weather that means basic or simple in style only time will tell. Not expecting something overly good though, specially with what we got from Guadalajara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Well, you cant expect anything Olympic calibre. Not totally sure what they mean by "Simple" though, weather that means basic or simple in style only time will tell. Not expecting something overly good though, specially with what we got from Guadalajara. Well according to TO2015 officials they said Guadalajara was amazing and that "simplicity would be an asset" for the 2015 ceremonies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikarus360 Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 ^^ Let's see, maybe they will change their mind later on and try to make something more spectacular. Although I hope is not simple as Winnipeg was...that was the first Pan Am Games ceremony i've watched ever, but it hasn't aged very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormiermax Posted April 20, 2012 Report Share Posted April 20, 2012 Well according to TO2015 officials they said Guadalajara was amazing and that "simplicity would be an asset" for the 2015 ceremonies. Then the officials must be mildly retarded, sounds a bit like Rob Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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