4seasonscentre Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 ^ Well, there's politics involved. The premier wanted to spread the money spent on the Games. It probably wouldn't fly for an Olympic bid, but for Pan Am it's good enough to win on the first ballot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted May 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) Both the City and the Tiger Cats (Canadian football team) have agreed to a facilitator, Michael Fenn. July 8th deadline, day before my birthday. In true North American mentality the TiCats wants something out of this deal either free rent, higher subsidy, etc. Either way it sounds like the TiCats owner, Bob Young, will agree to whatever Michael Fenn rules. Michael Fenn was the founding CEO of Metrolinx (regional transit authority that covers Hamilton as well) and currently the interim CEO of the Canadian Urban Institute. So it's likely Mr. Fenn will support the West Harbour stadium location, best location for public transportation and strong urban setting. So it's really up to Mr. Fenn to make the West Harbour stadium location work and find a compromise for the TiCats. Edited May 23, 2010 by Apple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Not only is the location an issue, but what is included in the staduim will soon become an issue. Football teams (as in Canadian football, not what we Canadians call soccer!) do NOT like to play in stadiums that have a track around the playing surface, between the fans and the football players. That's why the suggestion to have track & Field at U of Toronto, in their new facilities, and build a football stadium (that can also be used for soccer, field hockey, rugby etc) in Hamilton is a good one. Then, the location can be more to the 'Cats liking. Mr Fenn is going to have a tough time finding common ground between the 'Cats and the city of Hamilton. I still think its retarded having track an hour away from the athletes village. I would have built a venue at York University instead. Hasn't the phrse "retarded" in this context, gone out of favour? Not only is the location an issue, but what is included in the staduim will soon become an issue. Football teams (as in Canadian football, not what we Canadians call soccer!) do NOT like to play in stadiums that have a track around the playing surface, between the fans and the football players. That's why the suggestion to have track & Field at U of Toronto, in their new facilities, and build a football stadium (that can also be used for soccer, field hockey, rugby etc) in Hamilton is a good one. Then, the location can be more to the 'Cats liking. Mr Fenn is going to have a tough time finding common ground between the 'Cats and the city of Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkiFreak Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 So will the anarchists make a return visit to Toronto in 2015? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 So will the anarchists make a return visit to Toronto in 2015? Let's hope not! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted June 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Looks like Katz is going to take over Hamilton's West Harbour stadium. Rexall Stadium? He's meeting with Hamilton's City Council right now should be a news conference really soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted June 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Oilers talking Copps, stadium with the city June 29, 2010 http://www.thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/798487 Edmonton Oilers billionaire owner Daryl Katz and entertainment giant AEG are looking at taking control of Hamilton’s Copps Coliseum and the future Pan Am stadium. The group is at city hall today, asking council for time to come up with a business plan and proposal for the sports and concert facilities. No formal proposal has been put to city hall yet. Councillors are behind closed doors right now negotiating with Katz and his partners on how much time they need to develop a proposal. Patrick Laforge from the Oilers' group first approached council shortly after the Balsillie deal locking up Copps expired last fall. By April, he had a general agreement in place with HECFI to hold Copps for the group while they assembled a pitch. That deal expires on July 1, and today’s meetings are an effort to extend that arrangement to give the group more time to develop a business case. LaForge said that after watching the Balsillie-NHL fight over an NHL team, they decided to move in and take a ”more professional and more strategic” approach to the city’s professional sports prospects. He stressed this is not about moving the Oilers to Hamilton and there is no proposal for an NHL team on the table. He said their involvement is about creating a facility that could support an NHL team. LaForge also suggested that Copps may be too old for an NHL team and that a new arena may have to be built. He said he had not talked to the Ticats but fully intended to. He said he loves the West Harbour site and would also be interested in a soccer team for the facility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruling Czar Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Well, let's see how many promises will be broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted July 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2010 Got a sneak peek at the draft report. Summed up: Want an extention to select the final stadium site to August 31, extra time will allow for more negotiations with the Katz Group. Plus it's narrowed down to either West Harbour (urban) or East Mountain (suburban) for final stadium location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted July 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 So HOSTCO, Ian Troop, has taken the Track and Field event away from Hamilton to Toronto. In return soccer will go to Hamilton from Toronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave199 Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 It's about time. Track & Field should have always been in Toronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Not surprising that the track facility has been a topic of conversation. Football, both amateur and pro, don't like stadiums that have a track. Football fans/owners etc like to have the crowd close to the game. A track puts the fans too far away from the game they believe. Here in Kingston, the university (Queen's) has plans to renovate their stadium, without a track in it. Only an artificial turf field. Not surprisingly, the plans are on "hold" due to the gigantic cost and the other expansion of the university. Needless to say, the track people are not pleased, nor are many others. A stadium that hosts as few as 4 games a year, and soccer, is a strange use of money. But, to get back to the PAG....track really should be hosted in Toronto; I have thought that all along. Hamilton can build a much more useable stadium for football, soccer and field hockey, etc. With good programming, it can be used from dawn to dusk in the summer, and a lot of time in the shoulder seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted August 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2010 Based on the latest news Hamilton might not get a new stadium. The Feds and Province won't fund a stadium at the West Harbour. Instead the City may end up having to renovate Ivor Wynne stadium and host the soccer event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Based on the latest news Hamilton might not get a new stadium. The Feds and Province won't fund a stadium at the West Harbour. Instead the City may end up having to renovate Ivor Wynne stadium and host the soccer event. Ivor Wynne is a dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted August 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Hamilton Council voted 12-3 in favour for West Harbour stadium site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave199 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Hamilton Council voted 12-3 in favour for West Harbour stadium site. So the Feds won't fund that then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted August 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Feds require "The stadium must be used for high-performance sport, after the 2015 Games". No mention about an anchor tenant. You could claim a high school football team is enough. Doesn't require a professional sport team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted August 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 HostCo Rejects Hamilton Track and Field site HostCo Rejects Markham Pan Am Rugby site HostCo Rejects Burlington Soccer field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted September 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 Tomorrow TO15 committee will celebrate the beginning of the countdown to 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Well, now that a new mayor has been elected in Toronto, how will the preparations for the 2015 Pan American Games be affected by Ford's election to the office? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted November 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 New design and site plan for the Pan American stadium in Hamilton was unveiled today. http://www.900chml.com/Channels/Reg/NewsLocalGeneral/Story.aspx?ID=1309366 http://www.ticats.ca/article/ticats-unveil-details-for-proposed-stadium-site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzi Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Were will be the athletics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord David Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Were will be the athletics? Toronto, where it should have been in the beginning. They should have proposed a site near the city with more than sufficient land, to build the 15,000 seater athletics facility which could would be expanded for a future Olympics. Then the surrounding land could be utilized as a sort of Olympic park. The Ceremonies need not be located in this stadium, you can easily use the Skydome as that, which is proposed, but the stadium will be located in Toronto to be expanded to 80,000 and host both athletics and ceremonies for a Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormiermax Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 New design and site plan for the Pan American stadium in Hamilton was unveiled today. http://www.900chml.com/Channels/Reg/NewsLocalGeneral/Story.aspx?ID=1309366 http://www.ticats.ca/article/ticats-unveil-details-for-proposed-stadium-site Looks horrible, why such a simple bland design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezzi Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Toronto, where it should have been in the beginning. They should have proposed a site near the city with more than sufficient land, to build the 15,000 seater athletics facility which could would be expanded for a future Olympics. Then the surrounding land could be utilized as a sort of Olympic park. The Ceremonies need not be located in this stadium, you can easily use the Skydome as that, which is proposed, but the stadium will be located in Toronto to be expanded to 80,000 and host both athletics and ceremonies for a Olympics. They already have a render or somethimg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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