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Pesonaly, I would love a Houston games, but :glare: Houston is not ready, I think New York will win without a thought. And I am going to love the closing cerimonies of the London games. A preview of New York and American in London. :wwww: bring on 2016!!!!!!

Let's not jump the gun quite yet.  Altho it might eventually be the Big Apple, I'd say let's enjoy the ride and all its vagueries for now.

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A preview of New York and American in London. :wwww: bring on 2016!!!!!!

WOW!  it would be something new and very surprising!  

the triumph of the anglosaxon world, I can't wait :sleepy:

You forgot Vancouver 2010.  But that's how it could conceivably play out.  

Well, so far, it's only the "Anglo-Saxon" economies that can sanely afford and sustain such giant extravaganzas -- that's why.

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So, it seems that New York City had a booster shot in regarding a possible bid for the 2016 Olympic Games. However, I think it is still Ueberroth's call on whether the USOC will actually give the green light to do so.
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A little blurb in the paper about bringing an NFL team back to the Coliseum:

Super Bowl in Los Angeles in 2016

A newly renovated Colesieum as well as the new arena just built for the Lakers and the renovation of the Figueroa Corridor and downtown could make 2016 an attractive bid for another Olympics.  

BTW - the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena, site of boxing in 1984 is due to be torn down to make way for parking in the event the NFL decides on the Coliseum for the new NFL team.

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A little blurb in the paper about bringing an NFL team back to the Coliseum:

Super Bowl in Los Angeles in 2016

A newly renovated Colesieum as well as the new arena just built for the Lakers and the renovation of the Figueroa Corridor and downtown could make 2016 an attractive bid for another Olympics.  

BTW - the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena, site of boxing in 1984 is due to be torn down to make way for parking in the event the NFL decides on the Coliseum for the new NFL team.

Yeah, it's been ages since the SuperBowl played in the LA area -- the last time being 1985 or '86 in the Rose Bowl.  

Anyway, going back to the shudda-cudda thread in Zenica's crazy 'Dubai-Tokyo-Chicago' thread:  I think the Evaluation Committee did as good a job as they did for New York -- but I also sensed that they knew, no matter how good NYC's bid was, it was going to be either London or Paris.  It was simply fated that way.  

But again, with the bridges and good impression that the NYC 2012 team left with the IOC, I think they (USOC included) should build on that.  As for the '2012 or never;' -- well, there's always one candidate in the pack that says that: Paris also used that line. However, Istanbul never has.  

BTW, Zen -- uhmmm, with what's happening in Damascus and Iran today -- that's why (other than those Asian Games in Doha in December), no other Arab nation will land the Olympic Games.  It just can't be left to hotheads -- and certainly not during my upcoming IOC presidential term, beginning in 2009 -- running thru 2059.   :D

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A preview of New York and American in London. :wwww: bring on 2016!!!!!!

WOW!  it would be something new and very surprising!  

the triumph of the anglosaxon world, I can't wait :sleepy:

You forgot Vancouver 2010.  But that's how it could conceivably play out.  

Well, so far, it's only the "Anglo-Saxon" economies that can sanely afford and sustain such giant extravaganzas -- that's why.

...And a Glasgow or Halifax Commonwealth Games in 2014 looks likely at the moment... :)

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A preview of New York and American in London. :wwww: bring on 2016!!!!!!

WOW!  it would be something new and very surprising!  

the triumph of the anglosaxon world, I can't wait :sleepy:

You forgot Vancouver 2010.  But that's how it could conceivably play out.  

Well, so far, it's only the "Anglo-Saxon" economies that can sanely afford and sustain such giant extravaganzas -- that's why.

...And a Glasgow or Halifax Commonwealth Games in 2014 looks likely at the moment... :)

I'd hardly call the States Anglo Saxon. It's got millions of people from all over the world, and not just Northern Europe.

Hell, one of London's major selling points was that more languages are spoken in it then any other city in the world.

Anglo Saxon? Nope.

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Philly and USOC are teaming up

By PAUL VIGNA

Philadelphia is making some Olympic news on the eve of the Turin Games.

The United States Olympic Committee yesterday announced that it has picked the region as a community partner, establishing an official relationship that could yield bigger dividends down the road.

The USOC describes this new program as a way to unite forces "with a select group of U.S. communities that will work directly" with it to increase public awareness of and participation in Olympic and Paralympic sports." Exactly what does that mean? That, among other benefits, the USOC likely will direct more Olympic trials and related events in Philly's direction.

Already selected were Houston, Birmingham, Ala., the Oklahoma City region and, most recently, Chicago. The USOC is expected to name another half-dozen partners this year.

The partnership officially lasts for 2 years, but could go far beyond 2008. Elizabeth Hurley, the USOC's managing director of development, said yesterday that assuming the marriage works over the next 24 months, it can be continued indefinitely. This new program, she said, develops more permanent ties than in the past, when the USOC would work with cities bidding for the Olympics and then lose touch once the process finished.

In this case, Philadelphia began a dialogue with the USOC last spring when it set up an advisory committee to begin looking at the feasibility of making a bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics. That committee, directed by Joe Torsella, has deliberately kept a low profile as it gathers data and measures the commitment. It's funded by the William Penn Foundation.

Their work eventually will lead to a decision on whether the region - which includes southern New Jersey, Delaware and southeastern Pennsylvania - has the infrastructure and will to put up its hand.

The USOC ultimately will have the final call on whether any U.S. cities will make a bid. USOC president Peter Ueberroth said last week that he won't support a bid from a U.S. city unless it can show a united front among city, state and federal officials, and the public sector. Mind you, there's still plenty of time. Preliminary bids don't have to be submitted for 18 months. The International Olympic Committee will pick the host city in 2009.

While this designation doesn't promise the region a bid, it is a necessary first step that likely wouldn't have come without the past 10 months of dialogue. And whether there's an eventual bid or not, the partnership will give the region a relationship with the USOC that it hasn't had since John B. "Jack" Kelly Jr. was elected president of that body 21 years ago yesterday. He died 22 days later.

According to Torsella, the partnership could bear fruit in several ways:

1. Set up training programs that would lead to more local Olympians.

2. Give the region priority status for Olympics qualifying and other USOC events. "That's something we've never had here before," said Torsella, adding that it will provide an infrastructure to hold and publicize the events.

3. Allow for the dissemination of information on the many USOC programs. One, for instance, is the F.L.A.M.E. (Finding Leaders Among Minorities Everywhere) program, where selected minority youth spend 3 days in Colorado Springs interacting with Olympic athletes and coaches.

In addition, it will put in motion an opportunity for the local committee to raise funds and then direct them locally, whether it's to create more training areas or develop additional Olympic-related curriculum.

"That's one of the things we like about this," Torsella said. "The money that's raised for this program stays here. It's up to us and the USOC to decide what that means."

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Well, a new sports complex is being built in Brooklyn:

The pic is in my sig.

The complex, which incorporates both indoor and outdoor space, is targeted at a wide range of athletic interests. Being built inside four of the airfield’s historic hangar buildings that are being linked together underneath a single roof, are two NHL regulation ice hockey rinks (one of which has seating for 1,500 spectators), a 17,000-square-foot gymnastic center, a 28,000-square-foot field house that will accommodate sports such as basketball, volleyball and handball, an 8,000-square-foot sports bar and restaurant and an 8,000-square-foot food court, which, said Minifee, “Is going to feature all the best foods in Brooklyn.” In total, the indoor complex is 170,000-square-feet in size.

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It looks like NYC is really trying to put the events into a compact area... This is a few minutes away from the existing Flushing Meadows Olympic Sports Complex, the Brooklyn Sports Complex, and Manhattan. This sports complex is perfectly fit for another bid from NYC.

With an mile-long track outside, it will easily be a warm-up venue close to the Flushing Meadows Complex, so does the Icahn Stadium. It can host some indoor sports to free up some from the Javits Center in Manhattan.

This is another one that we could tie up on a possible bid from NYC...

Willet's Point Redevelopment

This one is in the shadows of Shea, where the Olympic Stadium is planned for NYC2012. The IBC could be placed here in this area, so does the Olympic Village

It's all falling into place, piece by piece...  :)  :unclesam:

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The Floyd Bennett Field Sports Complex will be even better than I first thought...

First, it can host a lot of events like soccer eliminations, handball, some indoor sports to ease up Javits a little. Making it another huge olympic park similar to Flushing Meadows Olympic Park.

Second, it will rival the Flushing Meadows Park which already has a lot of infrastructure as an Olympic Park by hosting a significant number of events like some soccer eliminations, field hockey, complete with warm-up running tracks, lawn fields etc. It could very well be included in the Brooklyn cluster proposed for NYC2012.

Third, it can host some more water events. Tides can be controlled as this area is a little swampy, so rowing and canoe/kayak is possible too.

Fourth, it is controlled and managed by the National Parks Service. Besides from Security, the Federal Government could have a big impact here which solves a problem pointed out with a New York's 2012 bid. Too much private business money, less government contribution.

Fifth, it will almost make all the venues in the city. Virtually eliminating Nassau Coliseum for handball. Leaving the Giants Stadium for "Futbol" Soccer eliminations as the only venue outside City limits.

And, it will be ready September this year.  :)  :unclesam:

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It looks like NYC is really trying to put the events into a compact area... This is a few minutes away from the existing Flushing Meadows Olympic Sports Complex, the Brooklyn Sports Complex, and Manhattan. This sports complex is perfectly fit for another bid from NYC.

With an mile-long track outside, it will easily be a warm-up venue close to the Flushing Meadows Complex, so does the Icahn Stadium. It can host some indoor sports to free up some from the Javits Center in Manhattan.

This is another one that we could tie up on a possible bid from NYC...

Willet's Point Redevelopment

This one is in the shadows of Shea, where the Olympic Stadium is planned for NYC2012. The IBC could be placed here in this area, so does the Olympic Village

It's all falling into place, piece by piece...  :)  :unclesam:

Hey kiddo, where've you been?  

How was the trip to LA?  

Re your post:  it says u "got to be a Registered User" to view that Ledger link.  How 'bout reprinting it?

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It looks like NYC is really trying to put the events into a compact area... This is a few minutes away from the existing Flushing Meadows Olympic Sports Complex, the Brooklyn Sports Complex, and Manhattan. This sports complex is perfectly fit for another bid from NYC.

With an mile-long track outside, it will easily be a warm-up venue close to the Flushing Meadows Complex, so does the Icahn Stadium. It can host some indoor sports to free up some from the Javits Center in Manhattan.

This is another one that we could tie up on a possible bid from NYC...

Willet's Point Redevelopment

This one is in the shadows of Shea, where the Olympic Stadium is planned for NYC2012. The IBC could be placed here in this area, so does the Olympic Village

It's all falling into place, piece by piece...  :)  :unclesam:

Hey kiddo, where've you been?  

How was the trip to LA?  

Re your post:  it says u "got to be a Registered User" to view that Ledger link.  How 'bout reprinting it?

I was really busy... The LA Trip was ok, I was kinda busy there too. It wasn't a leisure trip as you may know it. Same as my vacation.

Anyway, here's the article...

City seeks Willets Pt. plan details  

By Scott Sieber

The city wants the 13 developers vying for the coveted opportunity to redevelop Willets Point under the shadow of Mets Stadium to submit even more detailed plans.

The New York City Economic Development Corporation recently issued a Request for Proposals for the 13-block area between Flushing and Corona known as the "Iron Triangle" due to the string of rundown auto junkyards proliferating in the area.

Responses may include suggestions for the redevelopment of the entire 75-acre area or for small portions, and proposals can ignore the current industrial zoning designation.

"This marks a milestone in a decade-long effort to transform this part of Queens into a centerpiece of opportunity and renewal for the entire city," Councilman John Liu (D-Flushing) said.

The request is actually the second step in the redevelopment push, following last year's Request for Expressions of Interest in which the 13 groups provided sketched-out plans and general ideas about what could be done with the area.

Since then a spokeswoman for the EDC said the city has been performing engineering and environmental studies in Willets Point in order to determine the extent of the contamination known to exist in the soils.

Within the coming months, the EDC will select a consultant to prepare an Environmental Impact Statement and begin the public review process for the redevelopment.

Liu said the redevelopment is being looked at with the construction of the new Shea Stadium in mind, which is scheduled for a 2008 completion. He said the emergence of the RFP is big news for Flushing, but he emphasized that the plans must contribute vitality to Flushing and Corona, and not simply displace existing businesses.

"This ties in well with the planned new Mets stadium. At the same time, it is also crucial that plans for Willets Point complement, and not compete with, the transformations in Flushing and Corona."

A spokeswoman for the EDC said the agency has met with and will continue to meet with the Willets Point Business Association, area businesses and community board members as the redevelopment progresses.

Business owners in the Iron Triangle have cried fowl after earlier EDC meetings because they claimed

The EDC is also overseeing the creation of a comprehensive Business Assistance and Workforce Development Program to assist businesses in Willets Point affected by the redevelopment.

"This targeted RFP is another step forward in our efforts to transform the underused, underserved Iron Triangle into a new regional destination with a vibrant mix of uses to enhance the area's assets, such as the communities of Flushing and Corona and the Flushing Bay waterfront," said EDC President Andrew Alper.

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Well, a new sports complex is being built in Brooklyn:

The pic is in my sig.

The complex, which incorporates both indoor and outdoor space, is targeted at a wide range of athletic interests. Being built inside four of the airfield’s historic hangar buildings that are being linked together underneath a single roof, are two NHL regulation ice hockey rinks (one of which has seating for 1,500 spectators), a 17,000-square-foot gymnastic center, a 28,000-square-foot field house that will accommodate sports such as basketball, volleyball and handball, an 8,000-square-foot sports bar and restaurant and an 8,000-square-foot food court, which, said Minifee, “Is going to feature all the best foods in Brooklyn.” In total, the indoor complex is 170,000-square-feet in size.

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what part of bklyn?

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Oh, so that area then is not being designated as a new Olympic Village area.  If that's not the case, then were will the OV be if NYC still wants to bid?

Probaly somewhere else in  queens, or in staten island where they are planning to build a dumb nascar track. ug. just what i need alabamans in my neighborhood :rolleyes:

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Oh, so that area then is not being designated as a new Olympic Village area.  If that's not the case, then were will the OV be if NYC still wants to bid?

Could be in the Flushing Airport Complex... This is Willet's Point, right beside Shea. Flushing Airport Complex is in the other side of LaGuardia Airport. No definite decision yet on whether which one they would use. But asking for investors on these neglected areas is a very good sign as they want to develop the areas around the Flushing Meadows Olympic Park.

The Olympic Sports Complex in Brooklyn, will be in the existing Floyd Bennett Field. Right by JFK Airport and the Belt Parkway. It is also right beside the water which is perfect for water sports.

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