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I just watched a taekwondo match the GB girl clearly got a strike to the head of the Chinese girl that went totally un-noticed by the judges which meant she lost. There has been too much scandellous judging and as far as im concerned its tainting an other wise great games. Are the judges just crap or is it a China bias? They are winning loads of medals without the help from bad judges so why are they doing it?

When the games are in London I dont want us scoring better just cause its a GB competitor, that just aint cricket!

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I just watched a taekwondo match the GB girl clearly got a strike to the head of the Chinese girl that went totally un-noticed by the judges which meant she lost. There has been too much scandellous judging and as far as im concerned its tainting an other wise great games. Are the judges just crap or is it a China bias? They are winning loads of medals without the help from bad judges so why are they doing it?

When the games are in London I dont want us scoring better just cause its a GB competitor, that just aint cricket!

Yes I seen that match! Bullshit

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Yeah the chinese crowd were'nt best pleased but that was also due to the lack of annoucement in mandarin made to the audience explaining the judgement. They annouced it in english 15mins before the match and only announced it in mandarin as the mexican and gb girls came on. Poor management by the organisers. But decision wise it was a sensible choice by the taekwondo federation/ officials

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Looks like the isue has blown up in boxing as well:

Olympics: Judging scandal rocks boxing competition

AFP - August 23, 2008, 9:18 pm

Boxing officials were battling to contain a major scandal on Saturday as serious claims of bribery and the manipulation of Olympic judging panels emerged after a series of disputed bouts.

The International Boxing Association (AIBA) suspended Romanian technical delegate Rudel Obreja after he held an impromptu and rowdy press conference and made lurid allegations against senior officials.

AIBA also revealed that it had been tracking "possible attempts of manipulation" for more than two months and had brought in an International Olympic Committee (IOC) observer "when the situation became more serious".

At a testy media conference late on Friday, AIBA technical delegate Terry Smith was grilled by journalists who questioned a series of Olympic results.

Smith insisted none of the fights was fixed although he said the scoring system, where three out of five judges need to press a button simultaneously for a point to be awarded, was under review.

"I'm quite confident that nothing has affected these bouts," Smith said.

He denied Obreja's suspension was a "tit-for-tat" move after the Romanian said a top official was involved in manipulating judging panels and claimed bribery was at work in AIBA presidential elections of 2006.

Taiwanese President Wu Ching-kuo declined to address the disciplinary affair but admitted judging standards needed a shake-up.

"You can see from this tournament how we need to upgrade the level of the judges," he told journalists on Saturday.

"We need re-education and re-training to achieve a higher level. No more cheating, no more manipulation but better referee judges."

Obreja's unauthorised news conference on Friday ended in chaos when it was interrupted by AIBA secretary-general Ho Kim and the two traded heated remarks.

Obreja had been about to be removed from the commission overseeing the computerised refereeing draw, according to disciplinary official Tom Virgets.

The extraodinary developments accompany a series of ringside controversies which have incensed the boxers and coaches involved.

Frenchman Alexis Vastine screamed and wept after Dominican Felix Diaz was awarded a decisive two-point penalty for holding in the dying seconds of their light welterweight semi-final.

"I've been robbed," said Vastine. "I didn't know that could happen at the Olympics."

Irish light flyweight Paddy Barnes was staggered not to be awarded a single point against Zou Shiming in the Chinese world champion's 15-0 victory.

The Algerian camp had also claimed Ouatah Newfel was unfairly eliminated from the super heavyweight quarter-finals to smooth the path of China's Zhang Zhilei.

Ukrainian fighter Vyacheslav Glazkov, who beat Newfel and was due to face Zhang in the semis, withdrew at the last minute on Friday with an elbow injury.

AIBA's Smith said there had been no foul play, adding Obreja's allegations were "totally wrong".

"I will be the first to admit that not every point scored in boxing is recorded," he said.

"There will be points missed but we know most of the time that the right boxer wins the contest."

Smith added that Obreja's claims were under investigation and that AIBA hoped to settle the matter soon.

Disciplinary commission member Virgets also praised the reforms to the AIBA under president Wu Ching-Kuo.

"For 20 years this has been an organisation that has been under a cloud of suspicion but we have seen in the last year or so, under the new reforms, that that suspicion has been largely reduced," Virgets said.

Olympic boxing has a turbulent history including attacks on referees and sit-down protests. At Seoul 1988, Korean boxing officials attacked New Zealand referee Keith Walker, sparking a full-scale riot.

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Something happened during men's tae kwon do today and I missed it. When I started watching all of the judges and officials were in a hubbub and play was being delayed. And then an announcement was made that some Kazakh coach and somebody's results would be stricken and they would be permanently banned. I have no idea who did what when! I thought it might have been the Kazakh guy in the repechage, but he was still there receiving a bronze medal like nothing happened. Did I hear things wrong?

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I think by 2012 events such as Wrestling, Boxing, Taekwondo and Judo should have an additional official watching the match's television coverage (which can be replayed to check the points being played).

There have been far too many irregularities and often to the benefit of the Chinese - judges were obviously being swayed by partisan spectators.

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Something happened during men's tae kwon do today and I missed it. When I started watching all of the judges and officials were in a hubbub and play was being delayed. And then an announcement was made that some Kazakh coach and somebody's results would be stricken and they would be permanently banned. I have no idea who did what when! I thought it might have been the Kazakh guy in the repechage, but he was still there receiving a bronze medal like nothing happened. Did I hear things wrong?

During the bronze medal fight between Cuban Angel Matos and Kazakh Arman Chilmanov. The Cuban got a leg injury, but the one minute time period that is allowed to treat injury expired, so the Kazakh fighter was declared the winer. The Cuban, angered by the turn of event, kicked the referee to the head.

Quite disgraceful.

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I just read an article posted to Yahoo. A Cuban guy who was facing the Kazakh in one of the bronze medal bouts got fouled for wasting time more than a few times, and got so mad he pushed the head referee and kicked one of the chair judges and even SPIT. They instantly barred the Cuban and his coach for life.

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