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The Beijing Olympic Games and especially the IOC are heading into yet another big scandal. Read for yourselves:

IOC admits Internet censorship deal with China

Just a couple of hours earlier, the IOC made the following false pretenses:

IOC to challenge internet censorship in Beijing

Sorry for breaking the nettiquette, but the IOC consists of the lousiest, most hypocritical a**holes I've ever seen. Foreign journalists trusted them that they would reject the regime's refusal to provide free internet access -- but now they've stabbed the journalists in the back and shown the white feather to that mendacious regime.

IOC, start packing! The world definitely doesn't need you anymore.

Now, I hope that the journalists react with boycotts. The time for patience is up.

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Chinese do not have the games and not Olimpische village festival in Beejing.Freie public, free journalistic news, free Internet, etc., etc., everything goes together with Olimpischen games and nobody nor China can not in the sense prohibited, now and in Future.

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I think it's a shame that not only certain topics are blocked (but I can at least understand) but even the free press at large is blocked... BBC News's Chinese service is blocked as well? Come on, that's a bit too far.

BBC News Video

The content of BBC CHINESE are very senstive from the perspective of China's mainlanders...lol~I know what's going on~but if you are clever enough, just use the proxy~

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Get rid of your rose-tinted specs will you? This shows what all of us should have suspected - the Chinese regime lied and lied and lied some more to get the Games and the soft bastards of the IOC fell for it. Pathetic.

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Political repercussions aside, this will lead to a lot of pissed off journalists and you don't want to piss off journalists. Maybe Beijing won't get the write-up it wants in a month's time; we know journos look after their own and report on each others' experiences. It will only take one incident of a journalist being treated poorly for the whole of the world's media to turn on Beijing; the Chinese have to be very careful.

Blocking parts of the internet when they promised not to is not a good start.

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Political repercussions aside, this will lead to a lot of pissed off journalists and you don't want to piss off journalists. Maybe Beijing won't get the write-up it wants in a month's time; we know journos look after their own and report on each others' experiences. It will only take one incident of a journalist being treated poorly for the whole of the world's media to turn on Beijing; the Chinese have to be very careful.

Blocking parts of the internet when they promised not to is not a good start.

My thought exactly.

Part of the relatively bad and unfair coverage Atlanta got came from problems with the media (minor technical glitch in the first hours of the day).

I think that BOCOG sees the Games as an event for the Chinese and doesn't care that much about what the rest of the world thinks.

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Political repercussions aside, this will lead to a lot of pissed off journalists and you don't want to piss off journalists. Maybe Beijing won't get the write-up it wants in a month's time; we know journos look after their own and report on each others' experiences. It will only take one incident of a journalist being treated poorly for the whole of the world's media to turn on Beijing; the Chinese have to be very careful.

I heard about the Internet content which involves provking riots, conflicts, hatreds over the unity of the republic is illegal. That's a part of China's constitution. But on the other side, the prono sites aslo been banned because of a mass Chinese users of the internet are children. The problem is China still lack of independent cyber-watchdogs, but only cyber polices. But even that, China still grown to be the first web-users in the world counts almost as the entire population of U.S. Generally I don't think such a vast nation would choose to please few journalists just before a games. It's like calling off the U.K. terrorism law just in order to please all folks , including some islamic extremists. Well~Obama says the promises beyond politics is another politics itself....Let's hope the journalists could enjoy themselves and do their job properly. They can use a proxy if they wish to watch some porn or having a talk with the Chinese separatists overseas during the games time

Well~ Thanks to all the drama of 2008 over China, I only seeing China losing the confidents of the West as the West losing the patient of China. A century begins.

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Part of the relatively bad and unfair coverage Atlanta got came from problems with the media (minor technical glitch in the first hours of the day).

It was slightly more than one technical glitch in the first hours of the day. Atlanta's main reason for hosting the Olympics was to promote a positive image abroad - initially it failed to do this in spectacular fashion.

In the first few days of competition the international media’s advanced computer results service, which had been claimed was so ‘technically superior’ that practice testing had been deemed unnecessary, collapsed. Statistical data about individual athletes was often incorrect, with some competitors suddenly awarded bionic talents – a French fencer was credited with the 400 metres world record!

There were innumerable transport problems, bus drivers who were not familiar with Atlanta would deliver athletes at the wrong venues and many were late for their events. Similarly, one bus of journalists missed the Opening Ceremony after the driver mistakenly drove them to an industrial park miles away from the stadium instead.

The media reaction was obviously scathing, additionally, many members of the IOC, Olympic athletes and veteran sportswriters were united in their claim that they were experiencing the worst organised Olympics in living memory - the crucial determining factor for the success of events like the Olympics is the reaction of the media: as the IOC pointed out to Atlanta’s leaders, it is ultimately the media who will decide whether an Olympics is a success or not. Nevertheless, the Atlanta organising committee and the city’s mayor seemed virtually at war with the 17,000 journalists present, the mayor went on to suggest that the whinging critics should be shot!

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I heard about the Internet content which involves provking riots, conflicts, hatreds over the unity of the republic is illegal. That's a part of China's constitution. But on the other side, the prono sites aslo been banned because of a mass Chinese users of the internet are children. The problem is China still lack of independent cyber-watchdogs, but only cyber polices. But even that, China still grown to be the first web-users in the world counts almost as the entire population of U.S. Generally I don't think such a vast nation would choose to please few journalists just before a games. It's like calling off the U.K. terrorism law just in order to please all folks , including some islamic extremists. Well~Obama says the promises beyond politics is another politics itself....Let's hope the journalists could enjoy themselves and do their job properly. They can use a proxy if they wish to watch some porn or having a talk with the Chinese separatists overseas during the games time

Well~ Thanks to all the drama of 2008 over China, I only seeing China losing the confidents of the West as the West losing the patient of China. A century begins.

Get real. There is no comparison between one and the other and your continual justification of their failings, lies and lack of moral fibre is sickening in the extreme.

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Let's hope the journalists could enjoy themselves and do their job properly. They can use a proxy if they wish to watch some porn or having a talk with the Chinese separatists overseas during the games time

Now your pathetic political babble starts once again. You don't seem to have realised that porn websites and websites of "Chinese separatists overseas" aren't the only ones that are blocked in the MPC, but also the websites of BBC and CNN. That means: The British journalists, for example, can't even get access to the news of their main television programme by internet! -- At least without using the proxies you seem to praise as an excuse for the misbehaviour of that deeply rotten regime and its ass-lickers in the IOC.

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I have to correct myself slightly: In terms of BBC, the ban only applies to the BBC's Chinese page. And obviously, CNN is accessible. But at the same time, the webpage of German global radio and TV channel Deutsche Welle (http://www.dw-world.de/) can't be accessed from the MPC (according to a report by one of Germany's main TV newscasts, ARD's "Tagesschau").

The report can be seen here (in German): http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/video/video355412.html

This remains a big scandal. There's absolutely no reason to ban newspages like the Chinese BBC section or DW-World.de. But of course, your Commie friends, Maryjane, always find (ridiculous) reasons to ban those pages.

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Get real. There is no comparison between one and the other and your continual justification of their failings, lies and lack of moral fibre is sickening in the extreme.

So you'll be happy one day if I'm wishing all Chinese die out as those Yellow Peril threating the entire globe, won't you? I'll happy to do that, but there are 1.3 billion of them who are currently challenging the truth, the perfection, the moral highground the great Europeans set up. So it's me to get real, or somebody else?

PLUS~Are you happy to watch millions of muslims might be protesting hardly before London games, or some other NOC criticising and blaming all the Englishmen for the London knife crime crisis and the terrible soccer hooliganism. I beg British government also having a military deal with Saudi Arab which concerns to be holding one of the worst human rights record....I'm currently using a Vodafone UK boardband which has a rubbish content patrol even blocking the getty images. Yes~somebodyelse always have the right to criticise over and over again~but this world is real, nobody could be claiming the role model of the world. I do criticise all the wrong deeds, but I am hating the double standards.

One side the Beijingers are heart-warming welcome all the guests, the other side somebody else sayin they're all lack of moral fibre and liars.~

Great~I got it. Olympic Games is game of 'moral fibre', about 100/250 participating nations should all be disaqualified in order to bring a cleaner games for London 2012

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I have to correct myself slightly: In terms of BBC, the ban only applies to the BBC's Chinese page. And obviously, CNN is accessible. But at the same time, the webpage of German global radio and TV channel Deutsche Welle (http://www.dw-world.de/) can't be accessed from the MPC (according to a report by one of Germany's main TV newscasts, ARD's "Tagesschau").

The report can be seen here (in German): http://www.tagesschau.de/multimedia/video/video355412.html

This remains a big scandal. There's absolutely no reason to ban newspages like the Chinese BBC section or DW-World.de. But of course, your Commie friends, Maryjane, always find (ridiculous) reasons to ban those pages.

Why are you sayin those reasons are mine? Can you read? I'm saying that is what the Chinese censorship rules claim~I'm only telling the objective fact.

Please do read some Chinese sites to get the full story before you drop out such ''clever judgement''

I wish I could ban your loud mouth only speaking shits.~

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Now your pathetic political babble starts once again. You don't seem to have realised that porn websites and websites of "Chinese separatists overseas" aren't the only ones that are blocked in the MPC, but also the websites of BBC and CNN. That means: The British journalists, for example, can't even get access to the news of their main television programme by internet! -- At least without using the proxies you seem to praise as an excuse for the misbehaviour of that deeply rotten regime and its ass-lickers in the IOC.

Could you read this?

'''I heard about the Internet content which involves provking riots, conflicts, hatreds over the unity of the republic is illegal'''

do you know a website called ANTI-CNN.COM?

It's a long story~Do learn some Chinese before you dealing with a Chinese issue. Thanks~ Holy man~reborn Christ

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Please do read some Chinese sites to get the full story before you drop out such ''clever judgement''

Which "full story"? The full story is that the Chinese regime bans even harmless, non-pornographic and non-separatist newspages like BBC's Chinese section and DW-World.de.

Also, the regime and the IOC promised that there would be no restrictions for the foreign correspondents at the Games, including free access to the internet.

Those promises have clearly been broken. And now you are telling me that I'm not allowed to call all that a big scandal?

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... do have 1.3 billion chinese all the same opinion?

NOPE~

I could be honest~

Poll: Most Chinese Satisfied With Nation's Progress

As the Olympics approach, a poll finds the vast majority of Chinese are satisfied with their country's direction. The Pew Research Center conducted face-to-face interviews with more than 3,000 Chinese. China's stunning economic growth is one explanation for the extraordinary optimism. But the growth is also raising concerns about rising prices and the country's growing income gap

Pew Research Center

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do you know a website called ANTI-CNN.COM?

Oh, that propagandistic website which mainly still gnaws on mistakes made by some Western media back in March/April? I'm NOT impressed.

It's a long story~Do learn some Chinese before you dealing with a Chinese issue. Thanks~ Holy man~reborn Christ

And you learn some German first before you post German news articles whose content you even don't understand.

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Which "full story"? The full story is that the Chinese regime bans even harmless, non-pornographic and non-separatist newspages like BBC's Chinese section and DW-World.de.

Also, the regime and the IOC promised that there would be no restrictions for the foreign correspondents at the Games, including free access to the internet.

Those promises have clearly been broken. And now you are telling me that I'm not allowed to call all that a big scandal?

First~ THAT'S NOT MY WORDS, SO DON'T MAKING IT like A SCANDAL OF MINE! OR MJ THIS MJ THAT~I don't know you! You or I don't have the great privillage to patronizing each other just because the misread of the issue. So get over it~

I CAN TELL YOU WHY IF YOU ARE TIRE OF READING THE WHOLE THING.

BBC CHINESE is regularly posting the articles of FROM TAIWAN SEPERISTS, FA LUN GONG( A Chinese Cult aims to provoke the hatred between believers and non-believers of China), 1989 Pekin riots refugees but linked to the Western Intelligent Agecies)

DW stands for the voice of German government and particularly in 2008, its voice standing stronger in the tune of anti-Chinese policy

Anti-China Holy Alliance and Tibet by Ben Mah

The Friedrich-Naumann Foundation, an organization largely financed by the German government, began the preparatory work for the fifth ¡°International Tibet Support Groups Conference¡± as early as March 2005. The Conference, with representatives from various Tibetan associations and support groups from 56 countries who were invited by the Foundation, was held from May 11 to 14, 2007 in Brussels.1.

After several days of discussions, the Conference decided that the main agenda for the Tibetan movement in the months ahead should be political support for negotiations with the Chinese government, human rights, environment and development, with the 2008 Olympics being ¡°the single focus of attack for their activities for the next 15 months.¡±1. The Conference hired a full-time organizer in Washington to direct world wide Olympic disruption campaign.1.

The first action of this disruption campaign was the disturbance which occurred at the Olympic Torch Relay in Greece, then it followed with violent demonstrations in London and Paris, all orchestrated from the headquarters in Washington. According to one participant of the Conference, this campaign of disruption will continue on to the Olympic Games, and even to the point of ¡°direct action in heart of Beijing, inside the Games, every day¡±.1.

As a result, the Conference, under the auspices of a Foundation largely financed by the German government, which supposedly has a friendly relation with China, began a subversive and hostile activity against China. This might be a shock to most Chinese or even to the foreign policy establishment in Beijing, as for the past two decades, China has provided a lucrative market for Germany and German firms which have reaped an enormous profit from China. Successive German Chancellors have come to China on a state visit with smiling faces and profusions of friendship. They were all lavishly entertained and returned home with business contracts to the tune of billions. Therefore it is puzzling why any nation would be so ungrateful, about-face, and launch such provocative covert action against a sovereign government. However, according to the German foreign policy source, since the mid 1980s, Germany has revived Nazi¡¯s policy of ¡°supporting extensive autonomy rights for Tibet and even its secession¡±, which was dated back to 1930s and 1940s, as ¡°Berlin considered this region to be an important base for expanding its influence toward China.¡±2.

Accordingly, the organizations of ¡°Volksgruppen¡± (ethnic group) policy in Germany actively promoted a ¡®free Tibet¡¯. The secessionist policy is also aimed at other vast regions of China (Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang). These objectives were not only to increase German influence for potential neocolonial exploitations, resource extraction, and to detach these territories from China, but to weaken China for fear she would be a future potential rival.2.

With these objectives in mind, the German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, despite the vigorous protest by China, received the Dalai Lama in Berlin in September, 2007. This was claimed to be historical talk, as it was for the first time that the exiled Dalai Lama had been received at the Chancellery of Germany. With this unforgiving act, one has to conclude that an irreparable damage has been done to bilateral relations between the two countries. However, a German government spokesman declared at that time that ¡°he was confident that the meeting would not disturb the good state of German-Chinese relations and co-operation¡±.3.

Astonishingly, the calculation of the German government with respect to the potential harm of this historical talk with the Dalai Lama had been correct, as the Chinese government did not take any punitive measure to punish the government in Berlin.

In the absence of retaliation on the part of the Chinese government, which emboldened the Germans to use the 2008 Olympic Games as an opportunity to fulfill their objective of destabilizing China, as the ¡°Games are used as a means of applying pressure to force Beijing onto its defensive from its rise to world power status.¡±2. As a result, a meeting on ¡°Tibet and the Olympic Games¡± was organized by the ¡°Tibet Discussion Group in the German Bundestag¡± in November, 2007. The discussion in this meeting was focused mainly on ¡°if the Olympic Games could offer a lever for influencing China¡¯s Tibet policy.¡±2. It decided to launch the ¡°Team Tibet Project¡± that ¡°is aiming to send its own Tibetan team to the Beijing Olympics¡±.2. As a result, the German parliamentarians secretively initiated a blatant provocation against China by directly challenging China and seriously violating China¡¯s sovereignty.2.

In the wake of March 14, 2008 Tibetan Riot, ¡°Berlin is using the upheaval in the western region of the People¡¯s Republic of China to pursue its campaign of attrition against Beijing.¡±2. The German Chancellor, returned once again to the old colonial mentality of the Nazi regime by ¡°demanding that the Chinese government enter a ¡®dialogue¡¯ with the Dalai Lama, and a prime minister of German federal state of Hesse, ¡°would like to have international observers sent to Lhasa¡±2. and threatened a boycott of the Olympic Games if China did not oblige to his demand. 2.

The shameful act of the Germany Chancellor and other politicians is the old colonial game of divide and rule. It used ethnic division as a pretext for interference in domestic affairs and the break up of other countries, and this has been practiced by the Western powers for centuries, and more recently in the Balkans. The break up of the Yugoslavia Federation has been a great rewarding experience for Germany, as she pursued economic dominance in the region.12.

Nonetheless, this is a bold step to take against China, and one would think that as a vanquished power in the Second World War, Germany would have learnt a lesson from colonialism and military conquest. Yet one should not be surprised by this aggressive action and audacious demand from Germany, as the destabilization of China also conformed to the geopolitical interests of other Western powers, particularly the United States. This anti-China holy alliance manifested with the presence of Paula Dobrinasky, the U.S. Undersecretary of State and Special Coordinator for Tibet Issues in the May, 2007 Brussels Conference. The Office of Special Coordinator, much to the affront of the Chinese people, was established only two days after the state visit of the Chinese president in 1997 during the Clinton administration, which declared it would treat China as a strategic partner. Unfortunately, this infringement of Chinese sovereignty was met without any challenge on the part of the Chinese government. Dobrinasky, a member of neo-conservative and considered to be a hardliner in Washington, has been involved in the Color Revolution in Eastern Europe.4.

The Color Revolutions are political campaigns which usually result in the overthrow of the existing governments and their leaders. The American organizations such as USAID, the governmental agency providing aids to the third world countries, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), the International Republican Institute, and Free House are directly involved in the Color Revolutions. It has succeeded in the regime changes of several republics of the former Soviet Union.10.

¡°As in the other Color Revolutions, the U.S. Government is fanning the flames of destabilization against China by funding opposition protest organizations inside and outside Tibet through its arm, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).¡±5. The NED is funded by the U.S. government to do the works ¡°done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA¡±5.

Prior to the destabilization against China, the Saffron Revolution was orchestrated by Washington against Myanmar in September, 2007. Even the U.S. State Department admitted its supports of NED activity in that country for a regime change. In fact, ¡°the U.S. State Department has recruited and trained key opposition leaders from numerous anti-government organizations in Myanmar. The United States has continuously provided financial support for regime change since at least 2003. It recruited and even trained citizens of Myanmar in the U.S. for organizing activities, and funded the opposition media.¡±6.

Myanmar¡¯s Saffron Revolution was chosen for its strategic position as China¡¯s southwestern neighbor as well as a test run for the Tibet riots. It is not a surprise then, that the Saffron Revolution was followed with a carefully staged violent riot against the local citizens in Lhasa on March 14, 2008.

In the aftermath of the riot, ¡°a media disinformation campaign supported by political statements by Western leaders directed against China was launched.¡±7.

Consequently, accusation, distorted reports and false condemnation of China appeared in most media in the Western world. China, a victim of terrorism, became a violator of human rights and suppressor of freedom of the Tibetan people. NED, the organization which provided most funding for the terrorist and subversive activities of the Tibetan exiles against China and the killing of innocent Chinese, was promoted as the champion of democracy.7.

These Western leaders who expressed support for the Tibetan rioters including George Bush, Condi Rice, and Angela Merkel of Germany, who announced the boycott of the Olympic Games as a gesture of protest. Nicolas Sarkozy of France, who had returned from China a few months ago with more than $30 billion business contracts, also voiced protest and indicated that he may not attend the Olympic opening ceremony if China does not open talk with the Dalai Lama. 5.

In the U.S. presidential campaign trail, Hillary Clinton also urged President Bush to boycott the Olympic opening ceremonies in Beijing. This is a direct contradiction to her husband, Bill Clinton, who took millions of dollars from China as compensation for speech engagement fee. Hillary, on the other hand, in endeavoring to boast her anti-China credential, urged a get tough policy as she declared: "The violent clashes in Tibet and the failure of the Chinese government to use its full leverage with Sudan to stop the genocide in Darfur are opportunities for presidential leadership.¡±8.

Since China took over Chevron¡¯s abandoned Darfur oil field and developed with great success, Western politicians have united in the denunciation of China for the responsibilities of genocide in Darfur. In fact, it was the Americans who equipped the rebels with modern military weapons to fight the central government in Sudan. U.S. military support for the president of neighboring Chad ¡°in fact had triggered for Darfur bloodbath. Khartoum reacted and the ensuing debacle was unleashed in full tragic force.¡±9.

Thus, the campaigns of ¡°Save Tibet,¡± ¡°Save Darfur¡± are ¡°controlled by Anglo-American intelligence apparatuses and/or co-opted by them, in order to provide the masses with the propaganda justification for wars and intervention, and resource conquest.¡±10.

As a result, China became a scapegoat for the bloodbath in Darfur, and Western politicians such as Hillary Clinton used the tragedy in Africa and the riot in Tibet for their own political advantage. China, on the other hand, in the pursuit of her own stake in natural resources, has been ¡°violently contested by the Western powers.¡±10.

This contest includes the ¡°Color Revolution¡± in Myanmar, the careful staged riots in Tibet and other regions of western China, ¡°the ongoing effort to get NATO troops into Darfur to block China¡¯s access to strategically vital oil resources there and elsewhere in Africa.¡±5. It also includes the ¡°attempts to ferment problems in Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and to disrupt China¡¯s vital new energy pipeline projects to Kazakhstan.¡±5.

Tibet, the southwestern region of China, has long been the enticing prey of Imperial powers, as it is strategically located on the border with India. This imperial conquest was started with the British aggression in the early part of 20th century, resulting in thousands of death. Tibet is now so captivating to the Western powers for the simple reason that, in addition to vast reserve of oil and gas, it also has ¡°the world¡¯s most valuable water source, and ¡°contains some of the world¡¯s largest uranium and borax deposits, one half of the world¡¯s lithium, the largest deposits in Asia, enormous iron deposits, and over 80,000 gold mines.¡± 5.

But the fact that Tibet endowed with rich resources is not the only reason which led to the formation of the anti-China holy alliance to detach Tibet and the western regions from China, as one of the main reason is the misguided foreign policy of the Chinese government itself. China¡¯s reaction when her national interests and territorial integrity is challenged by the Western powers has always been to launch a protest, to make statement such as ¡°we strongly oppose the interference of internal affairs¡±--an old ritual which has become laughable in the international community since no one would take such a reply seriously. This is a major failure of Chinese diplomacy. The Western leaders have always carefully monitored China¡¯s reaction when they knIowingly committed actions which were against China¡¯s vital national interests. They shrewdly calculate that their commercial interests with China would not be damaged, that China would continue open her market to be plundered by the Western businesses, and that ¡°Chinese leaders recognize that China¡¯s economic advancement depends heavily on integration with the Western countries.¡±11. In their view, ¡°Chinese leaders talk tough in foreign relationship affairs, but in reality, they act in a careful and highly calculated manner to avoid confrontation.¡±11.

Thus, to restore and maintain the credibility of retaliation for any damage done to China¡¯s vital national interests, and avoid being the victim of the anti-China holy alliance, China must resort to a confrontation with any Western power and start sanctions against their commercial interests in China when her sovereignty is being challenged, as no President, Chancellor or any politician can stand the pressures of Western multinational corporations when the latter¡¯s interests are at stake. Moreover, sanctions against Western firms would also confer tremendous economic benefits to China, as the largest share of the profit in foreign trade and investment is now reaped by the Western multinational firms. China would then not only be able to safeguard her sovereignty, win international respect, avoid being the target of the anti-China holy alliance, but at the same time begin a new chapter of healthy, solid development, repairing environmental damage while protecting her indigenous industries and developing her own technology, all for the betterment of the Chinese people.

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Those references of the Chinese current censorship does not stand for my personal opinions! Don mix that up! I'm ONLY TELLING THE INSIDE STORY! BELIEVE IT OR NOT UP TO YOU!

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