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They must really be hurting to call it quits just a year before the Big One.

i guess so. i wonder how big did CoP played a part in their decision? prior to CoP i've never heared of this much retirement during the 6.0 era. bring back 6.0.

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Skate America 2008 Pairs results from Everett, WA

1 Aliona SAVCHENKO

Robin SZOLKOWY GER 180.77 2 1

2 Keauna McLAUGHLIN

Rockne BRUBAKER USA 172.69 3 2

3 Maria MUKHORTOVA

Maxim TRANKOV RUS 167.67 1 4

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The rest of the final results:

LADIES:

1. Yu-Na Kim (Korea) -> 193.45 points

2. Yukari Nakano (Japan ) -> 172.53 points

3. Miki Ando (Japan) -> 168.42 points

ICE DANCE:

1. Isabelle Delobel/Olivier Schoenfelder (France) -> 187.64 points

2. Tanith Belbin/Benjamin Agosto (USA) -> 186.53 points

3. Sinead & John Kerr (Great Britain) -> 180.20 points

Next event: Skate Canada @ Ottawa starting this Friday.

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The 2008-2009 ISU Figure Skating Season is the most crucial one as this year's World Championships in Los Angeles will determine the respective Olympic slots for Vancouver.

here are theGrand Prix schedules this season

Skate America, 23-26 October, Everett, WA

Skate Canada International, 31 October - 02 November, Ottawa, ON

Cup of China, 06-09 November, Beijing

Trophée Eric Bompard Cachemire, 13-16 November, Paris

Cup of Russia, 20-23 November, Moscow

NHK Trophy, 27-30 November, Tokyo

ISU Grand Prix Final, 10-14 December, Seoul (combined junior & senior)

Important Competitions

ISU European Figure Skating Championships - 19-25 January, Helsinki

ISU Four Continents Figure Skating Championships - 2-8 February, Vancouver, BC

ISU Junior World Figure Skating Championships - 23 February - 01 March, Ostrava, Czech Rep.

ISU World Figure Skating Championships - 23-29 March, Los Angeles, CA

The U.S. National Figure Skating Championships is set for Cleveland, Ohio while the BMO Canadian Nationals will be in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.

Here are the skaters Grand Prix assignments:

http://www.isu.org/vsite/vcontent/content/...ws-item,00.html

Per ISU Communication No. 1535, the 2009 ISU Junior World Figure Skating Championships will be held in Sofia, Bulgaria for the second straight year, after the withdrawal of the Czech Figure Skating Association.

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Just learned that my favorite up-and-coming young US pair, Naomi Nuri Nam and Themistocles Lefteris (what a great name!!) -- have (at least Naomi) retired from competitive skating. What a pity. He was very powerful (rare among US pairs' mens); their synchronicity was almost flawless; and I think their centers of gravity were similary located. Naomi was forced to retire due to injuries to her hip. I hope Themi can find another suitable partner.

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Skate Canada International final event

Ice Dance

1 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE USA

2 Vanessa CRONE / Paul POIRIER CAN

3 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT FRA

All roads to Beijing for Cup of China, 06-09 November.

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Can we not edit posts here? Oh well. I did some searching and found this:

http://web.icenetwork.com/events/schedule.jsp?mode=tv

So I take it to understand we'll not get anything but the US Championships and the Worlds this year? And some professional exhibitions?

Weren't most of the ISU Grand Prix events televised in the US in recent history? I don't understand why we're not getting any of the programming, even on ESPN or something.

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Can we not edit posts here? Oh well. I did some searching and found this:

http://web.icenetwork.com/events/schedule.jsp?mode=tv

So I take it to understand we'll not get anything but the US Championships and the Worlds this year? And some professional exhibitions?

Weren't most of the ISU Grand Prix events televised in the US in recent history? I don't understand why we're not getting any of the programming, even on ESPN or something.

It seems that figure-skating viewership numbers have been down in recent years PLUS the US ladies are kinda weak this year. It's the 18+ TOP ladies who drive the viewers it seems, not the teens like Tara and Kimmie (who I was never impressed with) and all those Asian and other little Asian-American twinkies. Plus after Michelle and Sasha, the new ones don't hang around long enough for viewers to vicariously live thru. Of course Tanith Belbin is hot -- but I dunno about Agosto?? And the other guys? It's a choice so far between a neo-geek, Lysacek, and the oh-trying-so-hard-to-be-butch Fairy Queen, Johnny Weir. (And the tight leather pants don't always work on everyone.)

I like Ryan Bradley. I think he has some charisma that projects well on the ice. (Dick Button I believe, singles him out, too.)

So it's really down to the personality of the skaters. Well, with the Worlds happening in LA in March, we might see a bump in some competitive broadcasting. But it seems there's already a saturation of F.S. shows.

Time to bring on the Synchornized Teams!!!

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It seems that figure-skating viewership numbers have been down in recent years PLUS the US ladies are kinda weak this year. It's the 18+ TOP ladies who drive the viewers it seems, not the teens like Tara and Kimmie (who I was never impressed with) and all those Asian and other little Asian-American twinkies. Plus after Michelle and Sasha, the new ones don't hang around long enough for viewers to vicariously live thru. Of course Tanith Belbin is hot -- but I dunno about Agosto?? And the other guys? It's a choice so far between a neo-geek, Lysacek, and the oh-trying-so-hard-to-be-butch Fairy Queen, Johnny Weir. (And the tight leather pants don't always work on everyone.)

I like Ryan Bradley. I think he has some charisma that projects well on the ice. (Dick Button I believe, singles him out, too.)

So it's really down to the personality of the skaters. Well, with the Worlds happening in LA in March, we might see a bump in some competitive broadcasting. But it seems there's already a saturation of F.S. shows.

Time to bring on the Synchornized Teams!!!

Yeah, it does seem it's taken a bit of a dive in popularity. Personally I would far rather watch a Grand Prix event than Brian Boitano's Super Special Skating Super Awesome Spectacular. But that's just me.

I agree about the post-Michelle Kwan hangover, though.

I really like Tanith and Benjamin...

What are the chances of synchronized skating getting to the Olympics? lol

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Cup of China Results

Men

1 Jeremy ABBOTT USA

2 Stephen CARRIERE USA

3 Tomas VERNER CZE

Ladies

1 Yu-Na KIM KOR

2 Miki ANDO JPN

3 Laura LEPISTÖ FIN

Pairs

1 Dan ZHANG / Hao ZHANG CHN

2 Tatiana VOLOSOZHAR / Stanislav MOROZOV UKR

3 Qing PANG / Jian TONG CHN

Ice Dance

1 Oksana DOMNINA / Maxim SHABALIN RUS

2 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA

3 Jana KHOKHLOVA / Sergei NOVITSKI RUS

That's three down 3 to go. Off to Paris.

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Funny how the US men seem to be on the ascendancy, and the women are pretty much kaput. I mean you have Abbott, Bradley, Carriere, Lysacek and Weir, all seemingly poised to peak for Vancouver.

BTW, I just learned that Lysacek is Tanith Belbin's BF. Lucky stiff.

Also, came across this piece from another website: http://www.figureskatingmystery.com/2006/0...nt-russian.html

RENT-A-RUSSIAN - Jan 2006

As of today, Senior Dance standings at the United States Figure Skating Championship (after the Original Dance; top 8 only) are as follows:

1 Tanith Belbin / Benjamin Agosto

2 Melissa Gregory / Denis Petukhov

3 Morgan Matthews / Maxim Zavozin

4 Jamie Silverstein / Ryan O'Meara

5 Kimberly Navarro / Brent Bommentre

6 Tiffany Stiegler / Sergey Magerovskiy

7 Loren Galler-Rabinowitz / David Mitchell

8 Jennifer Wester / Daniil Barantsev

Of these top eight, five feature a team member born outside of the United States. Of the top three (unless standings change after the Free Dance, this is presumably our Olympic team), three have been naturalized within the past month. (For details about the battle to ensure defending World Silver Medalist Tanith Belbin's citizenship, click here).

And while Tanith doesn't strictly fit the definition, the others most certainly look, act, and quack like the derisively-monikered, "Rent-A-Russians."

The trend began in 1993, when Russian-born Gorsha Sur won the first of two U.S. Dance titles with his American partner, Renee Roca. And planted an idea into the heads of dozens of girls desperately looking for a boy to skate with: Hey! The boy they were looking for didn't necessarily need to be American!

Unfortunately, a slight nuance was lost along the way. Gorsha Sur settled in the U.S. legitimately. He defected because he was looking for freedom. He wasn't even thinking about continuing to compete, until a phone call from Renee Roca suggested the possibility. Unlike the boys who followed in his wake, Gorsha wasn't bought and paid for.

Which was more than could be said for Oleg Fediukov, who, in 1993, skated at the U.S. Nationals with American Julianna Sachetti. The team placed 3rd in the Novice division -- despite the fact that Oleg had already represented the USSR internationally as a Senior.

The Sachetti family, wanting the best partner money could buy for their daughter, traveled to Russia and, like picking a puppy from the pound, offered Oleg an all-expenses paid (car and green-card included) trip to the U.S.

Oleg was no fool. He took the offer. But, within a year, he was off to greener pastures, skating with Laura Gayton (with whom he won the 1994 U.S. Junior Dance title) as soon as her family presented him with a better deal. By 1997, Oleg was skating with his third American partner, Debbie Koegel (whose previous partner, Russian-rental Michael Sklutovsky won the 1993 U.S. Junior Dance title with American Kimberly Hartley).

The disgruntled grumbling began almost immediately. American ice-dancers wanted to know who these foreigners thought they were, flying in and winning medals at the U.S. Championships, medals that many believed rightfully belonged to U.S. skaters. American boys resented how the Russians had received all their training for free under the old Communist system, and now were cashing in again, as U.S. parents tripped over themselves to become the highest bidder and secure the best boy for their daughter. Even before the rule-change to 'eligible' and 'ineligible,' the Rent-A-Russians could hardly be considered anything short of paid, professional ringers.

Yet, nothing in the USFSA rulebook prevented non-U.S.-citizens from skating at the U.S. Nationals. And, as skating became a more and more profitable venture to undertake, more and more parents began to see buying a boy as the ultimate investment in their daughter's future -- no different than buying her the best pair of skates, or the prettiest dress in the marketplace.

By the 1996 U.S. Championships, in the Senior Dance division, seven of the fifteen couples entered featured non-American male partners (five Russian and two British), including one team, Sophia Eliazova and Peter Tchernyshev, where both partners were Russian. (This team created an added controversy when, instead of following protocol and entering the Regional championships which qualified them for the Sectional championships which qualified them for the Nationals, the team simply dropped in to the Sectionals, demanding that they be allowed to skate. When they finished 3rd, the referee refused to sign off on the results, claiming they were invalid, and the couple that finished 5th filed a grievance claiming that, even though they didn't place in the top four, they should still advance to Nationals, since the number three team was there illegally. In the end, the USFSA, afraid of a full-scale conflict, nullified the Sectional results, and granted both teams a bye to the Nationals.)

A year later, Peter Tchernyshev was back with a new partner, Naomi Lang. In 1998, when they finished 3rd at the U.S. Nationals, three of the top six teams skating there were non-American (Eve Chalom & British-born Matthew Gates placed 4th, and Koegel & Fediukov, 6th).

Peter and Naomi went on to win the U.S. Dance title fives times before retiring in 2004.

Proponents of foreigners at the U.S. Nationals argue that it will raise the standard of American ice-dancing. That if Americans are forced to battle head-to-head with their better-trained, international counterparts at the U.S. Nationals, it will inspire them to improve, which, in the long-run, will mean a better showing for American teams on the World stage.

There really is no way of knowing that. As there hasn't been a U.S. Championship team where both parties were American-born, since 1998.

(For those curious, as someone who was born in the former Soviet Union myself, I am all for truth, justice, freedom, and the American way. I believe in open immigration and I most certainly believe that American citizenship is one of the most wonderful things in the world. What I don't so much believe in is blatant opportunism. To be fair, in the case of Petukhov and Magerovskiy, both are married to American women and appear committed to becoming true, lifelong Americans. Everyone else... who knows?)

posted by Alina Adams at 6:26 AM

The writer is a transplanted Russian-to-American.

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Then there was this rejoinder in the Comments section:

At February 14, 2008 10:35 PM, Anonymous said…

What BS! To impune Russian skaters this way is absurd...should ALL 'writers' be assumed to have all the same circumstances & decisions in life?

Some authors create for profit, some for love of storytelling - shall we condemn either of them for trying to make a living?

YOU don't know the circumstances driving ANY of these people, males or females!

Check the mirror - what assumptions can we leap to about your life - Let's see, your site is 'changing direction'...perhaps because 'no one buys the books'? Perhaps because your better at gossip than mystery writing?

See how easy it is to make unfounded assumptions that tilt to the negative. We know some of these people and know that they were/are not paid for, EVER! More than one sought freedom and others simply exercised it! They immigrate here & work at what they know, and yes, some are even talented! Should the designers, artists, actors, etc. all be impuned because they came here with talents & used them?

If you decided to move to another country, should you be denied the right do what you know best, particularly if you do it well? Exactly why should a talented athlete be a slave to his country when NO ONE ELSE IS -- Let's see, according to your view, being talented should limit your options, not expand them -- So if you want to change where you live, don't be good at what you do - is that your message?

IF you were a really talented American writer, should you not be allowed to go to Russia to write? A carpenter, lawyer, engineer with talent should stay home & don't bring their talents to America so our home grown can be the only choices in those careers!

Oh, so sorry, guess Americans expect to go anywhere, do anything they want, but they don't think Russians should be allowed the same privileges, right? -- Do you bother to read what you write?

FREEDOM should be valued for everyone, not JUST Americans! Foreigners can come here & fight in our army for your freedom -- they can die for YOUR freedom to put them down, but they can't represent this country in ice skating? This is an absurdity!

You got here one way or another; if you were identified as a top 10 writer, should there calls to prohibit your presence? Or perhaps, you were one of the lucky ones that came over with your parents so no one questioned how/why you came?

If you don't like that opinion, then don't get me started on the fact that the 'Americans' are being trained by the RUSSIANS! We want to claim we're better than they are because of what?...that we can afford to pay for what they can teach us? We take their lessons and then claim that WE are the best!?...so, IF they stayed home & taught their own athletes, then wouldn't the medals be headed in that direction.

Let's see, you approve of the coaches being capitalist, but not the athletes (who will become coaches, btw).

How about just appreciating each other - we obviously need them because WE choose to use them to teach us. Why not appreciate anyone who wants to continue teaching as well as those that want to continue performing, REGARDLESS of where they come from or go to?

Remember, 'Judge not, lest ye' be judged!'

You've been very judgemental...do you appreciate those that judge your credibility?

I think the comment is particularly vicious to a not-very malicious original post to begin with.

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US Men's Figure skating is on fire right now. Having watched the top five in the Grand Prix events, it's clear that we could be looking at some major medal hopes in Vancouver. Steven Carriere in particular skated beautifully at COC. Ryan Bradley is also a lot of fun to watch and oozes personality. With the recent retirements in the Men's competition, it's great to see great talent coming through. :D

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