baron-pierreIV Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Seamus, those translations are a big joke!! Horrible! Horrible English!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seamus21514 Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 I know, it's from an online translator, but the portions about the cauldron lighting are much clearer than the other translation of the same article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingspread Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Leakage! Spoiling Olympic secretsPosted by Tim Johnson Thu Jul 31, 7:03 AM ET Much to the dismay of China, a Korean journalist snuck into the Bird’s Nest stadium Monday night and filmed a rehearsal of the Aug. 8 opening ceremonies for the Olympic Games. ADVERTISEMENT As background, the opening ceremonies for the Games have been a huge secret, almost equivalent to military classified information. Leakers have been threatened with seven-year jail terms. China’s most famous filmmaker, Zhang Yimou, put together the three and a half hour show. So when the two-minute Korean network news spot was posted on YouTube, China jumped to action. First, it leaned on YouTube to block the link. Click here to see what happens when you call up the video. (Please correct me if it's only blocked in China.) Then China ordered domestic video websites to take it down. Ceremony1 That’s the Chinese way: if you have a leak, find out how to make it go away, even if you have to pull out a sledgehammer and drive a stake through its heart. I saw the video this morning on YouTube before it was taken down, but I’ll excerpt from a Sydney Morning Herald article about what the show contains. It begins with a countdown and thunderous drums. A giant traditional scroll painting unfurls, revealing a lone rhythmic gymnast. Other highlights include the projection of larger-than-life whales on a giant screen that appears to run around the entire interior lip of the stadium roof, and dozens of airborne acrobats. There is also spectacular use of gymnastics in which hundreds of performers synchronise to create moving tableaux. In one scene, thousands of white cubes with people underneath move up and down in waves that suggest the explosive growth of high-rise cities in China. Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcb_china/20080731...golympicsecrets And here's the SMH blog with a video link of the footage: http://blogs.smh.com.au/olympics/stephenhu...youtubeoly.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 PD: Can anyone tell me the number of order Venezuela will march? O_O (yeah, that's my country) The Chinese translation of Venezuela is: 委內瑞拉. In Mandarin, it is said like this: wěi nèi ruì lā. So, if the "pin yin" system is used, it would be at the back end of the parade. Come to think of it, I think I should do this, to help you guys out what is the Chinese equivalent of the English country names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryjane Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 The Chinese translation of Venezuela is: 委內瑞拉. In Mandarin, it is said like this: wěi nèi ruì lā.So, if the "pin yin" system is used, it would be at the back end of the parade. Come to think of it, I think I should do this, to help you guys out what is the Chinese equivalent of the English country names. NOT IN PINYIN~please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) NOT IN PINYIN~please. Then, what do you suggest? Just outright English, like the way they did it for the Nagano 1998 Winter Olympics? Anyway, I know a couple of them, like Canada 加拿大 (jiā ná dà) and the United States of America 美國 (měi guó). Edited July 31, 2008 by Guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryjane Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Then, what do you suggest? Just outright English, like the way they did it for the Nagano 1998 Winter Olympics? Stroke (CJK character) The CJK strokes (also known as the CJK(V) or CJKV strokes) are the strokes needed to write the Chinese characters used in East Asia. The corresponding CJKV characters being the characters that come from Chinese Hanzi, and which are now used in China, Japan, Korea, and still a little in Vietnam. There are some thirty distinct types of strokes recognized in Chinese characters, some of which are compound strokes made from basic strokes. The compound strokes comprise more than one movement of the writing instrument, and many of these have no agreed-upon name. Each single stroke includes all the motions necessary to produce a given part of a character before lifting the writing instrument from the writing surface; thus, a single stroke may have abrupt changes in direction within the line. In order to be able to write CJK characters one first has to know how to write CJK strokes, and thus, needs to identify the basic strokes that make up a character. The following section lists the most usual common shapes of the basic CJK strokes, and the proper way of writing each. Many different lists of basic strokes coexist and there is no broad agreement as far as the stroke names are concerned (examples). We use a set of 37 CJK strokes based on the 8 basic strokes of 永, and 29 other compound strokes. We also use a common naming system, which is not the only available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryjane Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 SO for example GREAT BRITAIN 英国 United States 美国 Italy 意大利 They usually would pick the first Chinese chacracter of counting total strokes it has. like Great Britian is 8 strokes to form 英 8 strokes to form 美, 13 strokes to from 意. Then that means Italy definitly behind the GB and U.S. Usually if both of the first chacracters of 2 nations are having the same amount of strokes, then they would be adding the second chacracter and the third one of all the strokes combined to rank them. In this case, you could see GB and U.S. are still the same, then they might be counting the full name of two nations like The United States of America 美利坚合众国 and The United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northern Ireland 大不列颠与北爱尔兰联合王国 in which case the U.S. has the far less total strokes than GB~ That means U.S. is following by GB, and Italy would be that last of these 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Oh, I see. The radical and/or strokes idea is not a bad one. For those not knowing what this means, it means that the number of "single movements before picking up the brush again" of the first Chinese character could determine the parade of athletes order. There are SEVENTEEN (17) radicals in the Chinese language, PLUS what Maryjane has provided in her post. For examples, look up this Chinese-English Dictionary site for your information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 So where would that leave the US and the UK in the running order of countries ish. Knowing my luck i'll miss Great Britain when i go for a pee during this marathon opening ceremonies lol! Ah the good old days when it was in french or english........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtclvr05 Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Dudes, i got more or less how the lighting of the cauldron will be. From a korean website (once again SBS are such a thieves >o<) , this is what i obtained after translating it (there are a lot of mistakes but it gives you an ideahttp://news.sbs.co.kr/section_news/news_re..._id=N1000451458 wtf? this translation sucks! but from what i perceive it is going to be either a dragon or a phoenix coming down from the roof and their are going to be nine fires? very hard to understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) Hey, Maryjane, I thought there are NINE strokes with the two examples of Great Britain and the USA there. Anyway, if you want to know what your country translates into Chinese, you could ask her for advice. By the way, 英国 or 英國 (Yīng guó) could be at the BACK, if the pin yin system is used here because of the ROMANIZATION (English TRANSLITERATION) way of reading Chinese. Essentially, that is what "pin yin" is. Also, to Maryjane, what kind of Chinese script would the placards show: the traditional (like what the Cantonese mostly use) or the simplified one (like what most Mainland Chinese use)? That example somewhere in this topic, it looked like it used the TRADITIONAL one for practice. Edited July 31, 2008 by Guardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryjane Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Found Honda of Street Fighters in OC rehearsal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingspread Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Okay, my earlier post today was pushed way back in the thread with all those Chinese character posts. Again, leaked OC dress rehearsal footage: http://blogs.smh.com.au/olympics/stephenhu...youtubeoly.html Yahoo! article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcb_china/20080731...golympicsecrets Doesn't look as spectacular as I hoped it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryjane Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Hey, Maryjane, I thought there are NINE strokes with the two examples of Great Britain and the USA there. Anyway, if you want to know what your country translates into Chinese, you could ask her for advice. By the way, 英国 or 英國 (Yīng guó) could be at the BACK, if the pin yin system is used here because of the ROMANIZATION (English TRANSLITERATION) way of reading Chinese. Essentially, that is what "pin yin" is. Also, to Maryjane, what kind of Chinese script would the placards show: the traditional (like what the Cantonese mostly use) or the simplified one (like what most Mainland Chinese use)? That example somewhere in this topic, it looked like it used the TRADITIONAL one for practice. I think Pin Yin is a good way to learn to speak Chinese for the children But actually because Chinese is based on a logographic writing systems as Egyptian hieroglyphs, so the more original the better. I think it's going to be used in the simplified ones because of its popularity, but more important it's a symbol of modern China, one of the formal languages of the UN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav3n Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Found Honda of Street Fighters in OC rehearsal I can't see the pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatsh Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 I've found a vidoe in which part of the OC is shown. but I won't show it to you, just wait up to 8/8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 I've found a vidoe in which part of the OC is shown.but I won't show it to you, just wait up to 8/8 Tatsh, then DON'T even bother to post -- with such contrary views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY20?? Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 So the entire lighting has also been leaked? Jeez... I want that to be a big surprise - not going to read anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 So the entire lighting has also been leaked? Jeez... I want that to be a big surprise - not going to read anything. Better check into a cave for the next week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryjane Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 So the entire lighting has also been leaked? Jeez... I want that to be a big surprise - not going to read anything. NOPE~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seamus21514 Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 The lighting hasn't been leaked per se, what we've discovered is pretty nondescript. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron-pierreIV Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Here's the scenario: the last runner appears with the torch, an animated 'Phoenix' swoops down to get the flame from the Torch, 'flies up' to the roof -- and there explodes into the cauldron! Then the cauldron tilts up to its stationary position. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryjane Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 OK~ I have helped to make a short list from 1 to 69 for the Athelets Marching Order on 8.8.2008 in Beijing 1.Greece 希腊 2.The Republic of Guinea 几内亚 3.The Republic of Guinea-Bissau 几内亚比绍 4.Yemen 也门 5.Turkey 土耳其 6.Turkmenistan 土库曼斯坦 7.Maldives 马尔代夫 8.Republic of Malta 马耳他 9.Republic of Madagascar 马达加斯加 10.The Republic of Mali 马里 11.Malaysia 马来西亚 12.Marshall Islands 马绍尔群岛 13.Malawi 马拉维 14.The Republic of Macedonia 马其顿 15.The Republic of Uganda 乌干达 16.Kingdom of Bhutan 不丹 17.The Republic of the Gambia 冈比亚 18.Barbados 巴巴多斯 19.Republic of Benin 贝宁 20.Japan 日本 21.Republic of Ecuador 厄瓜多尔 22.The Independent State of Papua New Guinea 巴布亚新几内亚 23.Eritrea 厄立特里亚 24. the Federative Republic of Brazil 巴西 25.Jamaica 牙买加 26.The State of Israel 以色列 27.Republic of Vanuatu 瓦努阿图 28.Kingdom of Denmark 丹麦 29.Ukraine 乌克兰 30.Kingdom of Belgium 比利时 31.Republic of Mauritius 毛里求斯 32.Republic of Uzbekistan 乌兹别克斯坦 33.The Islamic Republic of Mauritania 毛里塔尼亚 34.Kingdom of Bahrain 巴林 35.Republic of Paraguay 巴拉圭 35.Oriental Republic of Uruguay 乌拉圭 36.Chinese Taipei 中华台北 37.The Central African Republic 中非 38.Hong Kong 中国香港 39.Commonwealth of the Bahamas 巴哈马 40.State of Brunei 文莱 41.The Republic of Panama 巴拿马 42.Islamic Republic of Pakistan 巴基斯坦 43.Palestine 巴勒斯坦 44.The Cayman Islands 开曼群岛 45.The Most Serene Republic of San Marino 圣马力诺 46.Cuba 古巴 47.Republic of Niger 尼日尔 48.Federal Republic of Nigeria 尼日利亚 49.Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 圣文森特和格林纳丁斯 50.Saint Lucia 圣卢西亚 51.Republic of Nicaragua 尼加拉瓜 52.Republic of Ghana 加纳 53.The Democratic Republic of Sao Tome and Principe 圣多美和普林西比 54.Republic of Nepal 尼泊尔 55.The Republic of Rwanda 卢旺达 56.Republic of India 印度 57.Republic of Indonesia 印度尼西亚 58.Timor-Leste 东帝汶 59.Belarus 白俄罗斯 60.Republic of Chad 乍得 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryjane Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 61.Canada 加拿大 62.Republic of Lithuania 立陶宛 63.The Burkina Faso 布基纳法索 64.The Republic of Burundi 布隆迪 65.The Federation of Saint Kitts and Nevis 圣基茨和尼维斯 66.State of Qatar 卡塔尔 67.The Grand Duchy of Luxembourg 卢森堡 68.The Gabonese Republic 加蓬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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