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The final on sunday

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The Spanish team was much better than the Russian team - wonderful goals and I hope we will see an exciting match on sunday, in which the better team will win!!!

Spain is the favourite for the title - the team is really good and is playing a terrific championships...

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What a wonderful performance! Otra vez: ¡Felicitaciones a España!

They are certainly a more deserved finalist than we are. But nevertheless, already Portugal didn't perform well (or well enough) with the burden of being the favourite on its shoulders. Although I have to admit that this burden is the last straw for Germany. ;)

The final on Sunday could become an exciting, very offensively played match. But in reality, that probably means it will become extremely tactical, defensive or destructive and thus boring. ;)

However: I'm very glad that Spain made it to the final, so that we have a classic duel between two major football countries.

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The rankings at this EURO so far:

1. ???

2. ???

3. Russia 9 points (7-8 goals)

4. Turkey 7 (8-9)

5. Croatia 10 (5-2)

6. Netherlands 9 (10-4)

7. Portugal 6 (7-6)

8. Italy 5 (3-4)

9. Switzerland 3 (3-3)

10. Sweden 3 (3-4)

11. Czech Republic 3 (4-6)

12. Romania 2 (1-3)

13. Austria 1 (1-3)

14. Poland 1 (1-4)

15. France 1 (1-6)

16. Greece 0 (1-5)

I think it's interesting that, regarding their number of points and their goal difference, Croatia and the Netherlands are actually better than both the third and fourth of this tournament, Russia and Turkey.

Also it's interesting that Austria had a better result than the current Vice World Champion and the current European Champion.

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yeah, ARRIBA ESPANA!!

Well, these things always go in cycles. Certain forces always crest at some point or other while long-time favorites fade away. I guess the King and Queen will be back on Sunday. I guess they only sent the Crown Prince tonight since the Russians had massacred their relatives nearly 90 years ago.

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I am not gonna make any silly full predictions but my dark-horse winner is Turkey, by preferred final is Germany vs. Spain and if Germany doesn't win, I want Spain to. I would fancy Croatia more if they weren't missing their leading scorer Eduardo da Silva.

This was part of my first post to open this tread. I find it funny that it was on the mark in so many ways.

Turkey was the big dark horse in getting to the semis, the final is Germany vs Spain and Croatia's main problem was the lack of timely scoring without Eduardo.

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I had expected and looked forward to seeing Germany and Holland in the final but I must now admit that Germany-Spain makes for a more interesting contrast.A clash of Northern against Southern Europe,Germanic order and efficiency versus Latin flair and passion and,and...assorted cliches! :lol:

But it's nice to see Spain finally realise their potential after so many years of disappointment.They have deserved to get through perhaps more than Germany and the momentum might still be with them for the final,big push next Sunday night!

It is always foolish to attempt to write off Germany,but I have a hunch that Spain will come through to take their first ever European title.My prediction:

Spain 2 - Germany 1.

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The loss of Villa for the final is a big blow for Spain, but the form of Fabregas is a big boost to them at the same time. I would never write off the Germans' capacity to get the rub of the green, but it just seems to me that Spain's time has come.

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I had expected and looked forward to seeing Germany and Holland in the final but I must now admit that Germany-Spain makes for a more interesting contrast.A clash of Northern against Southern Europe,Germanic order and efficiency versus Latin flair and passion and,and...assorted cliches! :lol:

But it's nice to see Spain finally realise their potential after so many years of disappointment.They have deserved to get through perhaps more than Germany and the momentum might still be with them for the final,big push next Sunday night!

It is always foolish to attempt to write off Germany,but I have a hunch that Spain will come through to take their first ever European title.My prediction:

Spain 2 - Germany 1.

The team that wins is the one that is the deserving winning, the only stat that counts is goals and germany has outscored their opponents 10-6.

The two (well one is tied) highest scoring teams have reached the final.

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I have a question, do you think the final will have more or less than 3 goals?

I was on my betting website and they are giving pretty much 1:1 odds on the final tournament goals to be between 72 and 78 and 27:1 odds on 79 and over. I am thinking that the game will be 2-1 or 3-0 or 3-1 or 2-2, all of which would put the tournament total (at 76) at 79 or above.

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Hmm... 1st half is bored, but 2nd half spanish made improvement, the russian not played well last night, I'm disappointed with how the russian played the games, when I saw last night match, I hope that the netherlands is the one who played with spain, not that terrible russia.

Question :

for Spain : Is David Villa really injuried so he can play in final ?

for Germany : Why Arne Friedrich now is stater where is Marcel Jansen ?

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Hmm... 1st half is bored, but 2nd half spanish made improvement, the russian not played well last night, I'm disappointed with how the russian played the games, when I saw last night match, I hope that the netherlands is the one who played with spain, not that terrible russia.

Question :

for Spain : Is David Villa really injuried so he can play in final ?

for Germany : Why Arne Friedrich now is stater where is Marcel Jansen ?

Friedrich is a better defended.

And yes David Villa is out for the final

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Friedrich is a better defended.

And yes David Villa is out for the final

Hmm.... If Spain can play like the 2nd half in their last match, I guess Germany will have a big trouble, coz their biggest disadvantage is on Lehmann, but without Villa, Spain now have another problem too, I guess IF Spain really lost Villa in the final, Spain will use 4 - 5 - 1 formation, with Torres is their single striker and Fabregas stand behind Torres, Another question : Is Germany will play with their best 11 ? I mean is there anybody injuried in Germany starting 11 ?

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My guess for Germany would be

Lehmann

Arne Friedrich, Per Mertesacker, Christoph Metzelder, Philipp Lahm

Bastian Schweinsteiger, Michael Ballack, Simon Rolfes, Thomas Hitzlsperger, Lukas Podolski

Miroslav Klose

Germany is playing a 4-5-1. I would assume that Frings, Frtiz and Borowski are the most likely subs for the later half, especially if Germany is winning.

Spain will probably play with Torres and Guiza up front and Fabregas as a sub again. Though I think Fabregas should play instead of Iniesta.

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For me Guiza is not good enough, he has a lot of chance last night, but he only scored one :(, so better for Spain use 4-5-1 formation with Fabregas is the second striker :)

For Germany, Faster, why Germany not use 4-4-2 instead of 4-5-1 ? Podolski can act as striker too with Klose, and the midfielder will be Ballack, Schweinsteiger, Hitzpelger, and Rofles or Frings ?

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For me Guiza is not good enough, he has a lot of chance last night, but he only scored one :(, so better for Spain use 4-5-1 formation with Fabregas is the second striker :)

For Germany, Faster, why Germany not use 4-4-2 instead of 4-5-1 ? Podolski can act as striker too with Klose, and the midfielder will be Ballack, Schweinsteiger, Hitzpelger, and Rofles or Frings ?

Guiza is Spain's 3rd striker and I don't seem them not having 2 strikers on the pitch. Especially since Germany is going to be playing a 4-5-1.

Germany wins when they control the midfield and Podolski is a fairly good flanking midfield player, look at the 2 goals he set up for Schweinsteiger. Also all 3 of his goals where as a flanking midfielder.

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The team that wins is the one that is the deserving winning, the only stat that counts is goals and germany has outscored their opponents 10-6.

Spain have outscored their opponents by eleven to three. Excellent going forward and pretty solid at the back.

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Spain have outscored their opponents by eleven to three. Excellent going forward and pretty solid at the back.

Did I saw they weren't. I was responding to M about him saying Spain are more deserving finalist.

Spain has had some problems, the games against Sweden and Italy will give the Germans something to go from, as will the Croatian and Turkish games give information to Spain.

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@ faster - here is the translation of the last popular German football song - it is the song of the WC2006: '54, '74, '90, 2006 - after Germany didn't reach the final it was changed into '54, '74, '90, 2010 (by Sportfreunde Stiller) and the lyrics are changed a little bit

Eins und zwei und drei und '54,'74,'90,2010

One and two and three and '54,'74,'90,2010

ja so stimmen wir alle ein.

yeah we all sing this song.

Mit dem Herz in der Hand und

With the heart in the hand and

der Leidenschaft im Bein

the passion in the legs

werden wir Weltmeister sein.

will we be the world champion.

Wir haben nicht die höchste Spielkultur,

We don’t play the highest cultured football,

sind nicht gerade filigran,

we aren’t really sophisticated,

doch wir haben Träume und Visionen

but we do have dreams and visions

und in der Hinterhand 'nen Masterplan.

and we have a masterplan up our sleeves.

Für unseren langen Weg aus der Krise

For our long way out of the crisis

und aus der Depression

and out of the depression

lautet die Devise

is our motto:

nichts wie rauf auf den Fußballthron.

let’s get onto the football throne.

Eins und zwei und drei und '54,'74,'90,2010

One and two and three and '54,'74,'90,2010

ja so stimmen wir alle ein.

yeah we all sing this song.

Mit dem Herz in der Hand und

With the heart in the hand and

der Leidenschaft im Bein

the passion in the legs

werden wir Weltmeister sein.

will we be the world champion.

Die ganze Welt greift nach dem goldenen Pokal

The whole world reaches out for the golden cup

Am Kap der Guten Hoffnung probieren wir´s nochmal

We are trying it again at the Cape of Good Hope

Wir als Gast in Südafrika

As guests in South Africa

Wird unser Traum dann endlich wahr

our dream will come true finally

Eins und zwei und drei und '54,'74,'90,2010

One and two and three and '54,'74,'90,2010

ja so stimmen wir alle ein.

yeah we all sing this song.

Mit dem Herz in der Hand und

With the heart in the hand and

der Leidenschaft im Bein

the passion in the legs

werden wir Weltmeister sein.

will we be the world champion.

Beim ersten Mal war's ein Wunder,

It was a wonder at the first time,

beim zweiten Mal war's Glück,

It was luck at the second time,

beim dritten Mal der verdiente Lohn

It was a deserved charge at the third time,

und des nächste mal wird´s eine Sensation

It will be a sensation at the next time

Eins und zwei und drei und '54,'74,'90,2010

One and two and three and '54,'74,'90,2010

ja so stimmen wir alle ein.

yeah we all sing this song.

Mit dem Herz in der Hand und

With the heart in the hand and

der Leidenschaft im Bein

the passion in the legs

werden wir Weltmeister sein.

will we be the world champion.

'54,'74,'90,2010

'54,'74,'90,2010

ja so stimmen wir alle ein.

yeah we all sing this song.

Mit dem Herz in der Hand und

With the heart in the hand and

der Leidenschaft im Bein

the passion in the legs

werden wir Weltmeister sein.

will we be the world champion.

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I really hope there is a lot of goals in the final, hopefully another 3-2 German win. It would be wonderful (I have 70 dollars on the tournament finishing with 79 or more goals and the Spanish and Germans need to bulge the basket 3 times to do that.) It would be enough to buy me a new computer.

Thanks CAF for all the translations, I do hope to learn German one day.

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I have a hunch that Spain will come through to take their first ever European title.

It isn't correct: Spain DO have an European title, we won Euro 1964 at home against the USSR.

What I wonder is if this achievement (our last final in a big tournament was back in 1984 against France) will be a revulsive for our bid with Portugal for the WC2018 (in technical aspects, eight of the accredited 5-star UEFA Stadiums are located in Portugal and Spain, which is the most of any current European-based bid).

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