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oi,.... god,... please, deliver me from this...

is the flame extinguished now?

the stars this evening are really the volunteers...

if i close my eyes i see...... keira knightley and johnny depp... did they use the Pirates of the Caribbean OST?

Are those suppose to be greek lyrics?

Do the US and China recongnize WADA as an official Anti-Doping Agency or do they have thier own Anti-Doping-Controll?

Another strange story: Hungarian discus thrower Robert Fazekas, who was stripped of his gold medal at the 2004 Athens Olympics for doping, did competed today as the IOC allowed him to participate in the Beijing 2012 Olympics. Strange that the IOC is so generous to a prooved doped athlete but thinks that Ekaterini Thanou has no right to participate in Beijing.

Fani Halkia also said that: "On the document was written that the controll was on 12.08. But this is wrong. I was controlled on 10.08..."

I am the last one to say if she has doped or not. There have been too many greek athletes tested positive tha last year. Yet this is just too strange. Here is what Halkia said in the Press Conference: «A view hours before Mr. Kouvelos asked me to meet him and he siad me that i was tested positive. At the start i thought he was joking. I am shocked because the last months and the last 2 years a have been tested more then any one else. My last test was on 1 August. I have no idea whats going on here... I can not believe that there are people who want to hurt me. I will give to the EOF all of the products to be tested. I take part on the pilot programm of WADA and i am 365 days a year on demand there for the IOC. I got sick of give attention to evry bottle that someone opens for me. I am so sorry that i can run for my country. We have to give a bigger attention on other "parameters" If i show you my documents you will see that i have been tested almost every 3 days. This is the truth this is why i am shocked. When you take part on this proffesional athletism of extreme performance and there is a business that is called IOC or IAAF, the athlete is powerless to proove anything. I dont know if it is god to say. They have the knife and they have the watermelon*. The document with my code is at the inspector. I dont want to believe that there is matter of sabotage but no one can proove the opossite. I am powerless. There are a thousand thought in my head but i cant proove anything» * when someone has the power to controll everything

Fani Halkia also takes part on an enhanced dope testing program of WADA

This was really absolutely awesome!! Lets hope all this performence is a "real" one!!.. Stunning...

This isnt right: Both of the drummers are musicians. The drummer of Ancient Olympia is a proffesional percussionist, one of the very view in Greece who can play all type of drumms. The young drummer in the stadiun is am artist of pontiac dances and he plays pontiac drumms and lyra. He played live, the drummer in ancient olympia was prerecorded which was absolutely clear for every one.

I am not holier-than-thou. I never claimed that. And if i am severe with my opinion on other things this applies to many other issues also. Issues on the World, on Europe, Greece but above all on myself. This isnt about right or wrong. It is about what i accept and what i refuse in my own reality of things. It is completely a personal sense. This is why i never claimed Athens to be the best Ceremony ever. But for me the Ceremony was a mirror reflecting in an erotic way my sense of hellenic culture, of our existance. It was a dreamful connection to what i concider to be the truth. This is why this Ceremony is so extremely importand for us Greeks. Because it touched long forgotten parts of us still existing though. I may be too serious on this and it sounds too wannabe philosophical to you as you concider the Ceremonies to be a Show. Maybe it is a nostalgia for something but this is how we feel. This is why i tried to explain you the meaning of the Ceremony in other threads. I know you never asked me to do that, so it was my mistake. And because this is going really too far and the Athens Ceremony belongs to the past for the rest of the world i will just drop it. Enough with the "deep stuff"

This poor girl? Why poor? Because she dont fit the beauty criteria of the government? This is highly rasist and chauvinistic. For me it would have been a thousand times better and by far more sweet and touching to see a little girl with 2 teeth mssing singing. People can say what they want. Praise the Ceremony as you want. This is a matter of taste. But what you cant change is that this Ceremony reflects perfectly the fasistic character of the government which ignores the human rights. No respect for the ndividual human. Not even the fundamental ones such the dignity of human. And as the world is blended by this spectacular Ceremony, the Ceremony itself was the proof for this. Computer generated "live" pictures, "ugly children" replaced by beautiful ones (by the central office of the communist party), 9.000 of the 14.000 performers are soldiers, the military raises the Olympic Flag. This is like rotten meat hidden behind tasty sauce if you ask me.

Nah, its just a crude attemp to express our affection...

No you dont have to.. I am not trying to force you to have my point of view. I am trying to explain to you. The cut it out is for the distorting of the saying of Papaioannou just to make it fit in your point of view

I just don't go for all that symbolic, less-is-more stuff in a stadium=sepctacle sense. It didn't deilver ALL THE POTENTIAL it could've. It depends on what you concider to be a spectacle and if it was meant to be a spectacle as people were used for the Ceremonies to be Did you really need water to show that DNA effect? No. Yes because water is the source of life, like oxygene is Did "Klepsydra' really need the water? No. They just walked into the water at the end. But to what purpose I don't know. Yes because the sea has always has been an extreme source of inspiration for the hellenic civilisation And the fact that you have to issue lengthy explanations for the motivations MEANS that the conveyance of his deas, vision WAS NOT clear and subject to many interpretations. It was not clear for you this is why i am trying to explain My take: it failed to live up to WHAT COULD'VE BEEN a far greater show. According to Papaioannou it could have been a better ceremony. But this is in the nature of art. afterwards there are always things that you would change. Zhang Yimou already said that he wasnt satisfied with the result, only 1 day after the show

Klepsydra wasnt the main part of the Ceremony. It was just a part of it. It was the passage throught time. Before that there was the Countdown, the Olympic rings, the Arrival and the walk of the President, the Allegory. After that there was the book of live, the Olive tree, the Parade of the Athletes, Oceania, the Olympic cities of the past........ and lighting of the torch. The Ceremony of Athens didnt had the need to present such things like a naval battle just for the stupid ones to understand "ah cool,... this is supposed to be the sea..." And as for your daft attempts to distort Papaioannou words: He said the "i dont like the Olympic Game as they have been a plattform for staging supershows!!!" So cut it off..

Og Baron, my mentor... The Lake of water was: - The contrast to the Olympic Rings of Fire which represent the power of the Olympism. It is so strong that even it can brun on water. - The sea for the little paper boat to move on and the Naval Band to walk by... - The source of inspiration for the Cycladic Head of the Cycladic civilisation to rise from - The mirror to reflect the broken pieces of the cycladic, floating in air representing the univers - The Hellenic sea for the broken pieces to lie on to represent the isalng of greece - The night beach for the erastes and their play of love - The sea to surround the Passage through time as the sea surrounds hellenic civilisationsince it existence - The source of live that surrounds the eart to give birth to the olive tree and the element that accompanied the choros of the performers that move in circle The hole was for: - the cycladic head to rise from - the cube to rise from - the entrance for many performers such Eros - the olive rtee to rise from - the globe of the names of all the Olympic Cities projected on it and the floating torch bearers flying to it to rise from

Yesterday on Elefterotypia's Olympic Magazine:

...Athens in Sydney was 13 min.

I think what CAF wants to say is that it would be a very disappointing development if the future hosts start to mix pre-recorded or even computer generated scenes in the opening ceremony with the intension to give a "live feeling". In Athens it was absolutely clear for the viewer that the Acropolis view and the Journey to Ancient Olympia was prerecorded. Beijing tried to give the impression that the footstep fireworks are live and i am sure that many many viewers thought "wow this is awsome"...

Here is an answer to the question of "why did you like the Ceremony of Albertville the most" The fact that it was an expresion of fantasy. It had the elegance in the music and the costumes and the naturale of artitic thought free of guilt. Without all those stereotypes of smiling faces and the fake symbolism that has been used in the Ceremonies to make them to a supershow. I hope i wil not see too much smiling in Chinas Ceremony. Because i am afraid of the artificial nature of it when it comes from thousand of people at the same time.

Then maybe you would like to become my mentor

It is really a mysterium baron why you are loving to play the dumb one!!!