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Bosnia and Herzegovina preparing bid to host Youth Olympic Games
cfm Jeremie replied to GBModerator's topic in GB Newswire
If have never understood the hate for the Youth Olympic Games on this forum… Who with a sane mind can honestly compare them to the Olympic Games? The budget of a winter YOG is less than the budget of bidding for the Games… Having had the chance to experience, among others, both Buenos Aires 2018 and Lausanne 2020 I can assure you that both of them have been tremendous local popular success: BA and Lausanne have experienced incredible youth festivals, have seen some sport facilities built or renovated for the benefits of both grass roots and local elite athletes. For the sport movement, the YOG are a good lab to facilitate the introduction on new sports / disciplines / formats: 3x3 basketball, sports climbing, ski mountaineering, mixed-gender formats have all made their Olympic debut at the YOG. Is it a money maker? No. Does it generate a huge audience beyond the host market? No. Is it a reasonable investment for the host and the Olympic movement? I would argue yes. If you want to discuss projects with huge investment and a ROI to be demonstrated, look at Olympic Channel. Great content yes but who is watching? -
My top 3 (in no particular order): Athens, Beijing and Rio.
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I wouldn’t go as far as talking about corruption as I am not convinced there was any bribery. However, the fact that John Coates was more or less at the same time the architect of the new bidding process (New Norm! New Norm! New Nooooorm) and very involved in Brisbane landing 2032 does raise question about check and balance. What’s certain however is that with the new process, being well connected to the EB is even more important than in the past.
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New Sports at LA 28
cfm Jeremie replied to Sir Rols's topic in Los Angeles 2028 Sports / Events Discussions
Let’s face it, if adding cricket to the LA programme means that India Right Holder is willing to pay 10 times what they are paying for Paris (from 20 millions to 200 millions) as has been reported in some media, the only thing that Casey must be discussing at the moment is « how much do I get ?» (which is a fare question).- 24 replies
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Brisbane 2032 Opening Ceremony
cfm Jeremie replied to Sir Rols's topic in Brisbane 2032 Ceremonies Discussions
I hope a whole artistic segment will be dedicated to the New Norm and John Coates. -
This is further proof of New Norm being a resounding success! New norm! New norm! New noooooorm!
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And what does this have to do with Coe or LOCOG for that matter?
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Rehearsing for Opening
cfm Jeremie replied to baron-pierreIV's topic in Paris 2024 Ceremonies Discussions
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New Sports at LA 28
cfm Jeremie replied to Sir Rols's topic in Los Angeles 2028 Sports / Events Discussions
Surfing, Skateboarding and Sports Climbing have already been confirmed in the initial 28 sports list. Since the initial list does not include boxing, weigthlifting nor modern pentathlon and given that I wouldn't be surprised if at leat two of those sports make it into the programme, I don't think LA 28 would add more than 3 sports maximum (there is no actual limit on the number of sports but on the athletes quota that must remain at 10,500 so you cannot increase that much the number of sports).- 24 replies
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And to be fair Swiss Olympic itself mentions they are targeting either 2030, 2034 or 2038 (hence "Switzerland 203X"). At this stage, if the proper public and political backing was in place, I would say Sweden 2030 is more likely but it seems very difficult to evaluate the support or lack of for the project.
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Possible French 2030 WOG bid
cfm Jeremie replied to iceman530's topic in 2030 Olympic Winter Games Bids
My understanding is that it is a 100% political decision to keep both regions happy (also even if Rhone-Alpe-Auvergne Region is on board, it does not mean that indiviudal cities are interested - for examples both Grenoble and Lyon's mayors have sent very mixed signals at best about hosting large events). -
2030 Olympic Winter Games Bids
cfm Jeremie replied to WD96's topic in 2030 Olympic Winter Games Bids
I would be very surprised of the decision was to be delayed until 2025: it would leave until 4.5 years to the Games, which is really, really short even if all venues are existing. If France does end up in the targeted dialogue phase, I can see several options: Extraordinary session that could be organised in Gangwon during the winter youth olympic Games in early 2024 (though it may be too early) or on line (just like was done last June to address IBA exclusion) Move the session of July 2024 from Paris to Lausanne (it is just under 4 hours to go by train from Paris to Lausanne) Organise another session in 2024. -
Less torches for Paris 2024
cfm Jeremie replied to baron-pierreIV's topic in Paris 2024 Summer Games
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Honestly, in this situation no comment is probably the best thing.
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So basically your initial numbers were wrong. (BTW, I have provided my sources, Host City Contract available on Olympics.com)
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There is absolutely no way a Winter Games OCOG is getting nearly as much as a Summer Games OCOG: they don't have the same commercial values nor do they cost the same amount to organise. Actual numbers, based on HCC : Milano-Cortina 2026: 200 Millions as share of the TOP Programme, 452 Millions related to broadcast revenues which brings the contribution to 752 Million USD (though it is possible that the share of the TOP Programme can increase depending on evolution of the TOP programme for the 2026-2028 quad). On top of that the IOC is valuing the services provided by OBS at 190 Millions and the transfer of knowledge services at 83 millions (so at max 1.025 billions, keeping in mind that the OCOG "only" gets USD 752 Million, I have no idea where the 1.6 billion figure is coming from but it is at best 600 millions off track. Brisbane 2032: 437 Millions as share of the TOP programme (again, could be increased depending on TOP programmes success for the upcoming quads), 898 Millions related to broadcast revenues which brings the contribution to USD 1.335 Billion. On top of that the IOC is valuing the services provided by OBS at 430 millions and the transfer of knowledge services at USD 125 millions. So again 1.89 billion (no idea where 2.5 is coming from)
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Definitely. And to be fair with the IOC, they have several times mentionned to candidate/host city that there was no need to build a sliding centre if there was already one existing either in the country or in a neighbouring country. For NOCs, I guess it would be easier to have both sliding events and speed skating in the same area, so, if they can find an agreement with Norway, I would think they would go with the Lillehammer option.
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At least we know that: The Olympic Hall in Hamar (a.k. the "Viking Ship") is considered as an option for speed skating Both the Lillehammer and Sigulda sliding centres are considered as options for Luge, Bobsleigh and Skeleton
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2030 Olympic Winter Games Bids
cfm Jeremie replied to WD96's topic in 2030 Olympic Winter Games Bids
This is actually no more the case... in theory. The IOC is now asking for a comprehensive guarantee mechanism and is willing to discuss the possibility of a cap. If I remember correctly LA28 does not have a "blank-check". Having said that, given the choice, the IOC will most likely always go with a city/region with an unlimited deficit guarantee. -
Thank God, IOC is not driving social / political agenda in France!
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Due to the difficult circumstances under which the Rio 2016 OCOG dissolution took place, the report was never produced. I understand that the IOC is still in touch with former Rio 2016 employees to see whether some kind of report could still be produced.
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The digital version of the host city emblems, with the dynamic infill, are great (but the static versions in just one plain colour are disappointing).
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Ticketing chaos. Here we go!!
cfm Jeremie replied to baron-pierreIV's topic in Paris 2024 Tickets, Travel and Accommodation
"Total chaos". It's official, Baron is the Fox News of the Olympic Movement! Your obsession with Estanguet is very similar to the one some of the Fox News anchors had with Obama. Mistakes were made on 8 sessions out of 760: it is already too much but to call that "ticketing chaos" is ridiculous. -
Although I agree the emblem itself is very minimalist, when you look at the brand activation we have seen so far the brand itself seems to have great potential. Furthermore, the actual use of the emblem during the event itself is usually minimal. So I am willing to wait and see on this one.