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  1. On 2/1/2017 at 1:00 AM, Ikarus360 said:

    Glad to hear things will apparently get fixed in your country. I heard from other people TVP broadcasts are considered much better.

    Meanwhile the Winter olympics usually always go unnoticed here due to us barely even making it to the games :P (we couldn't go to Vancouver so they didn't even bothered showing those here), though they broadcasted some of Sochi last time.

    Yea, i got use to TVP commentators which are more lively during big moments then ones in Eurosport, not to mention TVP guaranties that concentration on Polish athletes. TVP also means free internet broadcast, but sadly it probably wont be as extend as it was in Rio or Sochi when had full rights and showed all that OBS given them, it wont issue with Winter but in Summer Olympics this might be problem.

    Where are you from? You know Poland was also quite weak in winter Olympics too, it was success to get even 1 medal, for long time gold from Sapporo 1972 was only one and only have 4 medals until Salt Lake. But ever since Adam Małysz success our winter sports are having renessase, in Vancover we doubled our medal count and we got 2nd gold medal  in history and and we get same number in Sochi but this time we tripled our gold medal count by getting 4 golds. So all it needed is a spark, or else you really a country really is without mountains and snow, which is know issue with winter olympics, and even bigger challenge to host them.

  2. Great news for Olympic fans in Poland, TVP (national public broadcaster) buys sub-licence from Discovery (Eurosport owner) for PyeongChang 2018 and Tokyo 2020, which means those events will be accessible as much as possible in new reality of IOC deals in europe, which makes me happy ^^

    http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/01/31/tvp-inks-discovery-olympics-deal/

     

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    TVP inks Discovery Olympics deal

    The Polish public broadcaster TVP has signed a sub-licensing agreement with Discovery Communications for the Winter Olympics in 2018 and Summer Olympics in 2020.

    As a result, it will be able to offer coverage of the two competitions on its TV channels, online platforms and social media.

    The rights cover digital linear transmissions, limited retransmissions and highlights of the most important events.

    All told, TVP will provide 200 hours coverage of the Winter Olympics from Pyeongchang, South Korea and 350 hours from the Summer Olympics in the Japanese capital, Tokyo.

    Meanwhile, Discovery Communication’s Eurosport will retain full rights to the Games on pay-TV and its digital platforms.

     

     

    In Poland after controversial limited access to man volleyball world cup in our country by Polsat (which Poland won to make things more ironic) we have regulation that forces broadcaster to transmit importent sport events with Polish participation which includes olimpics openly nation-wide, so Discovery was forced to sell this sublicence somebody here, but still it's better for TVP to have it then Polsat

  3. On 7/7/2016 at 6:18 PM, phandrosis said:

    Renders for the Japan House in Rio shows that the logo is meant to be color swapped in many ways.

    http://dentsu-ho.com/articles/4141

     

    This is common practice when you have solid color logo and graphics, you can see the same practice in phone apps design which currently is dominated by this style, it might be general cause why recent olympic related logos are so simplistic

  4. On 8/24/2016 at 4:07 AM, Faiyez said:

    How about an opening ceremony without a history lesson, no lecturing and no tragedy porn, for once?

    I think thats not much possible, it too big opportunity for group of interests to miss, but knowing Japan i would not expect much of propaganda they quite neutral on many world affers. But i think 3.11 deserve a tribute it's quite on the back of Japanese people and i think history and culture presentation is a must or else it would ceremonies would lose there magic imo. Even pop-culture centric London ceremony has bit of it and i really liked it, ceremony should scream Japan and anime and jpop is not enough for that.

    Also i found fun new tweet ;]

     

  5. On 8/12/2016 at 8:08 AM, olympicdreamin said:

    I think they should, create a strong segment dedicated to the A-bomb and nuclear nonproliferation like Rio did with climate change.

    I think Hiroshima is quite outdated problem and not much relevent to current politics other then just being a symbol. 3.11 (not just fukushima which is only a consequence) is probably what is more in Japanese people mind then that and same as 1964 games showed Japan rebuilding it self from war, in this games probably want to show that they recovering from 3.11 and ensure the world that they keep Fukushima in check which same as Chernobyl will be a scar on the map for decades if not centuries. Not to mention they been on axis side during war so i don't think they want to dig much in that part of history.

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  6. 32 minutes ago, Sir Rols said:

    It's a pity we don't have more Japanese members here to tell us how the handover was received over there. Did they like it, or was it too stereotyped? (I say that, because I remember one of the few Japanese to come on here and post in the closing days of the 2020 race said most of the comments we were making about manga and such were stereotyped).

    I hope Palette comes on at some stage to give us in idea of what the public in Japan thought.

    Well it happens i'm learning Japanese ;p and i browsed #東京2020 hashtag on twitter and it seems positive but i'm too novice to fully understand it, it spawns some fun memes :P 

     

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  7. Well as i read manga (which i prefer) and watch some anime i notice that not much people know Captain Tsubasa in english contries. In Poland there was chanell in 90s called Polonia 1 which was airing lot of anime, it's legendary TV era among my generation, airing quite hardcore for today standards stuff like Yatta-man, Daimos and ofcorse Captain Tsubasa ^^ Even polish broadcaster in news outlet recognized Tsubasa i in that promo but not Doraemon which is complily unknown in Poland :P So they didn't just hit south america with it and i was plesently suppriced they include him in to this.,. not only i in Poland i guess as it hits childhood memoeries ;]

  8. The next games promo was best i seen from all once i remember and oldest i remember is salt lake city, and it's not just Japanese pop culture over all artistic composition and music looked a lot better. I think they overtake Rio in quality just in those 10 minutes and if it lose that, they can do opening ceremony better then Beijing which is widely considered the best opening.

    Also for those who didn't recognize as it's not quite know worldwide, the football anime character they used is Captain Tsubasa, which i think it best football manga ever made.. i think. It's highly recognizable in some European countries (including Poland ^^) as it was airing in 90s there via some italian dub production and if i'm not mistaken (and it's probably reason why they choose that over all sport anime they have) it was also airing in south america as i seen videos of Spanish dub

     

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  9. Well they are hosts so it's not that hard of a challenge where others need to struggle with logistics. I'm happy as long as everything is accessible 100% without paywall, i something is not in TV you can always catch it via internet and our TVP provides that, Sadly this is last Olympics like that due to whole Eurosport deal :( So i plan to enjoy it to it's fullest :) 

  10. On 5/10/2016 at 11:20 PM, Oooswald said:

    I've found this:

    https://youtu.be/MlRrgLkRv0U

    No ideia if is legit.

    Awww i was about to post my found, well it seem it's real as it got copyright climed by IOC, i find another source which is ident compilation:

    https://youtu.be/qnzZXVnSeAg?t=578

    But man that new OBS logo which anyone could do in mspaint in minutes >.< IOC related logos going downfall recently

  11. I don't really mind that

    I found the logo a little underwhelming but I'm not pleased they're replacing it.

    If they genuinely have to replace it becuase of this legal threat then that's embarrassing but fair enough.

    If they're using this story as a convenient cover to drop a design because the public reception wasn't great, it shows they lack the courage of their convictions. That wouldn't bode well.

    I don't really mind that if it's lack of courge, if anything knowing Japanese i think local opinions (which i don't know) was more impactful then from outside

  12. I cheer for Budapest, if it would work it would show that any country can make Olympics aster 2022 debacle and would be good test for 2020 Agenda. I also wondering how candidature and people opinions there about it, as political alignment is similar to what my country is going (minus romance with Russia :P).

    I was once there and it buityfull city, i like how on one side of river there hills and on another is flat

  13. Uhmmm, are we talking about the same World League?

    http://www.fivb.org/EN/volleyball/competitions/WorldLeague/2014/

    As far as I know, USA men won the 2014 World League (and which is why they were too tired for the World Championships and didn't win that one).

    No, 2012 world league before London, it made lot of hype. We also won European championship before that in 2009 and woman in 2005 and 2003 two times in row but currently they are in decline. Volleyball is 2nd most popular team sport in Poland, 1st one is Football... where we barely getting to European chempionship :P 3rd one is handball, which we got 3rd place world cup yesterday ^^ But it really does not matter as we chear for any polish sportman that is on TV

    You would really need to live here to understand the result, cheering is one thing but politics are another, we are nation with huge complexes, that we cant do anything right and others think bad about us, when we got Euro 2012 people been saying that we not able to build stadiums and after people complaining that stadiums we build are not profitable and wasting money (which is actully true, looking on what crazy things they doing with national stadium to get money from it, which i think best one is windsurfing event :P). And it's not like it's empty thouths, because our politics truly sux, everyone knows that but they for some reason they don't want to change it (or rather don't have motivation to), always when we build something theres some bad things involve with it like corruption and other stuff, for example in recent day we by Pendolino trains without in-title pendulum and without infrastructure for them where we could do something more efficient, but media hype about it like some kind of revolution and politics things they gonna get some votes from it. The same was with Krakow 2022, people was talking that politics wants to make some party in city just for 2 weeks that will increase the debt instead of investing in infrastructure and do something that will stay in long term, people fear we end up with buildings that are not profitable same as stadiums after Euro 2012 or that some people whats to get money from trying to promote something that gonna lose anyway (you know.. Oslo) and people get nothing. Other event we got didn't had hype in candidature, people heard about World Championship in volleyball when we actually got it, about Euro 2012 people heard when we got to short list. It really not about people liking sports, but purely political thing.

    As i said the whole thing smells bad for me too, because i don't really see reason to do referendum where they got to that stage and everyone knew how it's gonna end, the end result is some people made profit from public money and if we would lose people would blame those people so they get out of it clean.

    But looking now we would be favorites here... and it kind of making me even more dissapointed as sport fan, but i understand people worries politicly

  14. Just watched the USA-France volleyball match held in Krakow. It's part of the Men's World Championships going on across Poland, and the arena is I'd say 75% full...for a non-Poland game. So I don't understand how the local Krakovians weren't into supporting a 2022 bid.

    Actully vollyball is pretty much one of polish games, we had successes in the past in both man and woman vollayball, in London 2012 biggest hype was on our volleyball team who just won world league regardless of fact that our strongest side in olympics where we get most medals are technical atletic sports. But volleyball is nothing... check out ski jumping ;p

    The decision of people was purely political and fear of huge fianace cost where polish politics are known to waste money already.

  15. The whole situation still smells bad big time for me and i don't believe it happened for no reason. I know i might sound too political here (but thats because i'm highly interested in happenings of political scene), but Polish media have strong tendency to follow current government party narration, so this media storm against Olympics sounds odd to me.... fact is lot of public money been given and now wasted for this bid makes me even more suspicious. I agree with those saying that referendum should be done before applying then now, doing opposite is literally stupid, it makes me a lot more disappointing then losing bid or even short listed.

    Now i cheer for Almaty ;p

    And also curiosity.

    Mayor of Zakopane (snow zone of Krakow in 2022) pissed off decisions in the referendum and demanded the acquisition of the project by Zakopane. Today he meets up with the authorities of Krakow, and Polish and Slovak Olympic Committee. Im sure it wont work, just to mention.

    But now we know it didn't work out, as for Warsaw bid in 10 years i'm afraid our economical situation might worse then it is now... but a lot of things may happens during 10 years.

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