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  1. As much as I wanted Munich to host the Winter Olympics, I must say I'm right now laughing at the IOC. They give Olympics to places like Beijing and Sochi that lift the bar so high that Western Europe can't afford hosting the games. But no problem, Beijing will be bidding and can throw in endlessly money. Just make China a permanent host for the games. Countries save a lot of money as they don't need to bid, let alone host the games.
  2. Well, it seems the games had most support in GAP.
  3. I must say I like the modern look of the new stadium (and in general I prefer classic arcitecture over modern.) and it looks like it can be one of the best stadiums in the world with a moveable seating and retractable roof. But it's sad that a former Olympic Stadium will get demolished to make place for the new one. I would prefer modernizing an old stadium or rebuilding it in a bigger scale with the original design. (I think Oslo's Bislett is a good example on that, you can see some architectural features of the old stadium in the new one.) But the old National Stadium has only 48,000 seats. That's way too little for the Olympics and hard to expand. So a new stadium is a necessity. Well, I'd like it in the old stadium's style but that would be problematic. It's not easy to install a retractable roof when the other side of the stadium is higher than the other. Also, the former design might not allow the moveable seating on the lower rows.
  4. I'm confident about Turkey's chances in 2024. I don't think they would be denied the Olympics once again. Other strong candidates would be the USA and South Africa. But I think the Olympics can wait for four years to get to the USA and South Africa has already lost their post-World Cup momentum. I think 2024 games are Turkey's to lose. But they must not have issues like the demonstrations this year or doping scandals.
  5. The Olympics would become a big joke if they allowed non-championship level venues. Olympics should have championship level venues in all sports. If the bidders can't provide them, then they shouldn't bid.
  6. @markun: You just listed 5 reasons why I don't want the Olympics to Sweden. (not all 7 because I don't care about royal families and don't know what's that Avicii.)
  7. So Munich, Oslo, and Stockholm seem to be the most popular options here. Munich seems like the best option in my eyes. It's the most compact bid of those. Even though that doesn't mean there wouldn't be some long drives. It takes 2h30min to drive from Königssee to Garmisch-Partenkirchen. MUC bid also has many existing venues. The only thing I don't like in that bid is splitting Nordic skiing events to two different towns with a two-hour drive between them. After Munich, I think Oslo is the 2nd best bid. But the Lillehammer cluster is quite far from Oslo, which I see as a problem. Long distances are also the problem with Stockholm/Åre. But it's not the longer distance to Alpine events why I see Stockholm as a worse bid than Oslo. I just think the Alpine events would be too much in isolation from the other sports. I prefer Oslo's concept where the Lillehammer cluster doesn't have only the Alpine events but also e.g. the sliding events. In Stockholm's case I'd prefer a concept where the indoor sports would be in Stockholm and snow sports in Åre. A bit like with Torino, indoor sports in Torino and snow sports in the Sestriere region. Another reason why I prefer Oslo's bid to Stockholm's is that they have more venues existing. The only thing I prefer in Stockholm is that Sweden has never hosted the winter games, Norway hosted as recently as in 1994, partly in the same venues. But isolating Alpine events to Åre is a massive NO for me. If Munich's bid gets rejected in the referendum, then I hope one of the more exotic candidates comes up with a compact bid and gets the games. I can see major weaknesses in Stockholm's and Oslo's bids.
  8. My bad, I just remembered it's on the 10th day. I was already wondering how there wasn't much about that on German newspapers' websites.
  9. Tomorrow. Does anybody have an idea about how close the referendum will be? Wikipedia says there needs to be a majority support from each locality.
  10. So Stockholm would be the host city and Alpine events would be in Åre. But where would be Nordic skiing as well as sliding events?
  11. I don't like about the idea of having cross-country skiing in Ruhpolding apart from other Nordic disciplines in Garmisch-Partenkirchen. I think Nordic disciplines belong together like in the World Ch'ships. It takes two hours to drive from one of those venues to the other. I think that's too much as those sports have many common fans. On the other hand, I can understand that it's good to have cross-country and biathlon on the same region, there are athletes that complete in both sports. So I think biathlon and the Nordic disciplines should be in the same area. Either in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, a traditional ski jumping venue with also the Alpine disciplines. Or in Ruhpolding, a traditional biathlon venue close to the Königssee sliding venue. Both GAP and Ruhpoling have jumping hills, which is the most costly Nordic skiing venues. GAP has the more modern jumping hill.
  12. For sure the Nordic skiing would be in Oslo. Oslo's Holmenkollen is the Mecca of Nordic skiing.
  13. I think they were planning to get a new alpine skiing slopes closer to Oslo but opted to use the existing Lillehammer venues to save money,
  14. I don't think race walking is the biggest problem for the Olympics. They have also other street events, and walking doesn't require new sports venues. Tennis is a sport I'd drop off from the games. Olympics really aren't the most important event for tennis but the host needs a 10k-seater stadium and two other 3-5k-seater stadiums. I think there would be sports with cheaper venues.
  15. Race walking is a traditional athletics event, no way it should be dropped from the games. About football, I think it's OK it's the games. Yeah, men's football is basically an U23 ch'ship but women's football has all big names. And football has long traditions in the Olympics. But beach soccer could be a good addition, a growing sport without a really big event. Olympics would a big for beach soccer. I think golf was a bad addition. The Olympics won't be golfers main prioroty in Olympic years. But yeah, golf brings more viewers than e.g. squash.
  16. Facepalm at me, I meant 2022. I hope it's right this time.
  17. I believe the 2020 games will be in Europe. Asia has the 2018 and 2020 games, and there doesn't seem to be North American bidders. And Europe should have many ciies/regions able to host the games. ^^I meant the 2020 games, of course.
  18. That's a joke venue. Madrid's relatively high altitude and low air pressure make those courts unusually fast for clay courts.
  19. Were any of Madrid's existing venues already white elephants? If not, then I think there's nothing wrong with having most venues existing.
  20. Well, I think you can say that about wrestling, too. In general, I think it's hard to find popular non-Olympic sports that would be good additions to the Olympics. Those sports have their traditional events and Olympics don't become the biggest thing in those sports. I think those sports, like tennis (which I'm a big fan of) are a waste of an Olympic status, there would be many other sports where the Olympics would be athletes' main goal. What those sports have to give to the Olympics is star athletes helping in marketing. And I don't care about that very much. I think Beach Volley has been a great addition, a young but increasingly popular sport that lacked yet a really big event. But none of those three candidates is a new Beach Volley. I don't know about baseball. I guess the MLB title is the biggest thing in baseball, just like in any big North American team sport. The Olympics would be less important but that wouldn't be a problem for me if the Olympics would be the biggest international event and players would care about it like they do in ice hockey or basketball.
  21. I want wrestling to remain in the Olympics, it's one of the most traditional Olympic sports. But unless they retain their Olympic status, I'd like to see squash in the games. It feels like a perfect addition to the Olympics. It is an old, traditional sport but doesn't have an event that gets much worldwide attention. I think Olympics would immediately become the biggest event for squash so they'd be a good Olympic sport.
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