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  1. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20151211/k10010337761000.html

    According to this article as I ran it through Google Translate, in two weeks we will receive the design proposals from the JSC. Coincidentally, that will be on Christmas. What a gift! If someone could read the article and try to translate is better than what google can do, it would be appreciated since there is something in there about the public voting on which design but I'm not 100% sure what they're talking about specifically.

  2. I saw this on Facebook the other day and thought nothing of it since it was in Korean, but just today I found it in English on Twitter. Pyeongchang is reaching out to the public to vote on one of fourteen short listed designs to be their look of the games!

    Vote Here: http://goo.gl/U0uCBN

    Here are the twelve short listed designs with little explanations:








    I personally voted for #12, but I also liked #1 and 2. I thought that #10 looked uncannily like Sochi...

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  3. They don't have to optimize the stadium for the Olympics, they merely have to allow the organizing committee access to the stadium for modifications at the organizing committee's expense. Theoretically they could remodel the stadium so it is no longer a bowl but rather a standard modern football stadium, and then require the organizing committee to build a platform in the stadium to add a track in order to host the Olympics.

    This is what I think the bid committee has in mind. Since the stadium was kind of retrofitted better for football after 1984 when they got rid of the track, it's not as easy as it could be to just get rid of those new seats and put the track back. With this new renovation, even though they're keeping the empty bits by the cauldron for historical preservation, it's going to be suited more for football. What will happen if LA wins will probably be what someone said above that USC and the bid committee will hand off the stadium to one another for a specific time period in which a full roof will be added and what can be assumed a temporary track built a meter or two off the existing pitch.


    Here are the first offical venue designs. Say what you will, but they do have that little bit of traditional architecture but mixed with modern, and I personally like them.

    Here is the Ariake Arena, host of indoor Volleyball. It will have 15,000 seats in Olympic Mode and 12,700 in legacy. Not too bad. It will cost ~299 million US dollars . It will be completed in December 2019. There's no start date yet, which makes sense since they're still bidding for contractors.


    And here's the Olympic Aquatics Center. It will have 20,000 seats in Olympic Mode and, as they always planned, the design will allow for 75% of the seats to be temporary leaving a legacy capacity of 5,000. The price will be ~445 million USD. It will be completed in December 2019 as well.


    I got these from SSC, but here's the article that was linked.


    The article also talks about the rowing/canoe course (appropriately named Sea Forest Water Stadium) but provides no pictures, which is understandable given it's a rectangle of water in the middle of Tokyo Bay with some temporary seats. It will apparently only cost around 812,000 USD to ensure that the water will be calm enough for these events. No mention on spectator capacity though.

    I cannot figure out the architect from the article, but it appears that the contractor bidding will start in a few days and go into January for specific parts such as electrics and plumbing. They do talk about the construction techniques. What I can pick up is that both arenas are going to be constructed similarly. Something about a shell method, which I can only assume means building the concrete structure and throwing the roof and sidings on after.

    Get excited for more renders!!!!

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  5. Can you imagine the backlash if a Chinese designer won if they went worldwide? Even moderate feathers would get a little ruffled. If I'm thinking correctly, I remember seeing that Sano was half Korean, and some crazies thought that he made a bad logo on purpose to make the games and Japan look bad (and maybe Pyongyang better???). But of course that's all internet ravings, but that sentiment does exist as similar sentiments exist everywhere.

  6. I guess I understand where they're coming from in a way, since they lost a bunch of money with the old emblem. You think with all those sponsors that wouldn't matter but who knows what really goes on in TOCOG. Maybe, just maybe, TOCOG now assumes that since they've opened up the contest to everybody, they don't need to pay the required price for a valued designer. That's just what I think they're thinking at this moment.

  7. I you didn't already see, the official Emblem Contest began today. Here's a link to the rules and regulations (english).


    We've also been provided with hi-res Olympic and Paralympic symbols, and also a template to show how the logo will be used in real life to avoid any more controversy, as shown below.





    Finally, something I thought was funny, is the 6th example of what not to do. I suppose it's best to avoid the same thing... ;)



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  8. I can't access the link. Is that really the final design, though? If you get the chance to build a venue especially for the ceremonies, why just take a normal stadium? They could have built something more theatre-like, perhaps roofed in order to support bigger props.

    I imagine the ceremonies will be similar in production ability to Torino or SSC. They'll likely make the field itself really nice and fit for the ceremonies and rely a lot less on huge stuff. I think Sochi gave us too high expectations for Pyeongchang, prop wise. Sochi had in general greater means (legitimate or not) to work with, so they could do whatever they wanted. I think these ceremonies will be a turn back to fiscal reality... or they might go all out and try to one up Tokyo or something who knows.

  9. If you were curious if anything has happened, then don't worry. News has been very slow. Here is a story that I just found, but it's not much.

    Japan's Olympics Minister has briefed a senior member of the International Olympic Committee on the country's plan for the new main stadium for the 2020 Tokyo Games.

    Toshiaki Endo met IOC Coordination Commission Chair John Coates in Tokyo on Tuesday.

    They were joined by the head of Tokyo's organizing committee, Yoshiro Mori, sports minister Hiroshi Hase and sports agency chief Daichi Suzuki.

    Endo explained that Japan's Cabinet decided in August to limit the cost of building the new stadium to 155 billion yen, or about 1.3 billion dollars.

    He also explained the process by which its designer and builder would be chosen.

    Endo said Japan aims to complete the project by January 2020, and that he is hoping for proposals that will meet the IOC's requests. Coates thanked their efforts.

    It's still very costly, but it's better than what they had before. At this point, this might be the lowest the price can (conceptually) be before they resort to heavy use of temporary facilities. Since it's already been established the track will be permanent (not removed after the games for more seats), there will still be light use of temporary seating whenever they think they need the full 80,000.


  10. I think this is the most important part:

    The competition is open to everyone regardless of previous experience or formal qualifications

    Now anyone from a design student to someone who was a designer in 1964 can contribute instead of a few secretly chosen designers and a bunch of, dare I say, decoys.

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