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Everything posted by phandrosis

  1. I wish we had a norwegian here to tell us their opinion
  2. this article says that construction costs have rised ever since the earthquake due to reconstruction efforts around the nation (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/11/us-olympics-japan-idUSKBN0EM0QB20140611) so i think the rates that they were based on in the bid books and all were expected to rise after the fact but not as much as they did after Tokyo won the bid. When they did, contractors that owned land near the bay that were building condos saw hige spikes in revenue because people wanted to be closer to the action or something. Its just kinda like they knew it was gonna rise and were prepared, but when the prices jumped all of the sudden they were in a tough spot to keep things economican and compact at the same time. economical
  3. its just for a few venues whose cost has soared. The basketball/badminton events were supposed to be held on reclaimed land in a venue called the Youth Plaza but costs are rising, along with the needs to create breakwater somethings for the rowing/canoe course that is raising costs and the relocation of the slalom from a park to other land owned by the government. Together it's not a whole lot given that they're trying to make the games economical and possibly lessening the stigma that hosting the games required tens of billion just for venues alone.
  4. http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/kyodo-news-international/140828/tokyo-may-use-existing-facilities-some-sports-2020-oly
  5. ugh. for some reason I feel annoyed that Sochi had to spend so much that it made hosting look like a bad thing now. I bet there are other issues involved in the low support, but I still think that if Sochi had spent much less, these referendums would not have failed and/or public support would be higher.
  6. They might as well. It's not like Tokyo has to build any stadiums for it anyway.
  7. went through and counted. he called beijing an "insurance policy" 5 times.
  8. I think it's just because countries don't have enough athletes at the level for certain sports like fencing to create whole teams, so they team up with other nations in the area to create one.
  9. New Document: http://www.jpnsport.go.jp/newstadium/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=TPWLRUdZ4bE%3d&tabid=36&mid=762
  10. kind of a far off thought but has anyone thought about where they might place the cauldron? I mean the stadium's fabric-like roof probably isn't great with fire and with jumbo trons on both openings kind of block a view outside.
  11. “I love smoking,” Masao Aso, a 49-year-old worker in the auto industry, said during a cigarette break in a smoking area of a central Tokyo office building. “I want them to put aside some space for us, however small it may be. I don’t want to cause trouble for anyone else.” it's nice that they're thinking of others.
  12. yeah i don't think the US sees the YOG as true Olympics that need their full attention. With the Pan Pacs going on at the same time it makes it difficult to choose which one they are more serious about. If the US ever hosts the YOG then I think they'll get more serious.
  13. nagano's theme was nature peace blah blah and it was rural japan after all. I don't think anyone should have expected excitement. I hope Tokyo has very cultural parts in a beijingy way with lost of big, amazing stuff but also have contemporary culture like london had.
  14. two new documents from the JSC. This one (http://www.jpnsport.go.jp/newstadium/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=WnVlVRv21YU%3d&tabid=36&mid=762) according to my dear google translate shows a slight change in the dates. Something called "Design Implementation" spans from August 2014 to September 2015, which is similar to the demolition schedule. The actual demolition timeline now stands at September 2014 - September 2015 which is ahead of the previous schedule of October 2014 - October 2015. The construction dates are the same. There's another one that's rather long (http://www.jpnsport.go.jp/newstadium/Portals/0/shushimikomi/20140820_shushimikomi.pdf) that looks to be about finances and stuff.
  15. i was just disappointed that they didn't bother to make a new cauldron. it looked like they reused the same one from the youth asian games
  16. It's great that they have established to the protesters the facts behind why they cannot just add seats and slam on a roof.
  17. Yeah I suppose that most of the cities especially the smaller ones will most likely never be able to win a games. I think I just worded it a bit to generally.
  18. So if you host the Pan Am Games you are not fully capable to host the Olympics? Rio won and many know that hosting the Pan Ams really helped their bid. Toronto may do the same in the future since the Pan Ams will be the largest sporting event in Canada. In reality there is nothing stopping Lima from bidding and after Rio opens the door for more South American hosts when they hopefully host fantastic games, Lima will have and equal chance to host compared to any city. ...even London
  19. who knows what we'll see at the closing ceremony at rio for tokyo. they might wow us
  20. So what you're really saying is that a middle east games will happen but istanbul and doha which are in the middle east will not?
  21. i feel like the issue is, Tony, that you're not taking into account that the evolution of sport and economies in cities and countries around the world that currently don't seem like they have the capability to host something as big as the Olympics can and will change as time progresses. If the same cities just hosted over and over again we would never be able to experience the different cultures that the OC present and the capability to handle the world that allow these cities to grow from their legacy afterwards. Sure, Istanbul failed a few times, but it's not like they cannon do it. Jakarta, as mentioned, is growing and like all other cities that grow they will reach out to be noticed by the world and the OG are a perfect way to do that. You can never give any city a 0% chance. Besides, if Istanbul had a 0% chance why did they pass Madrid? About Dubai, I personally think that they will not have much of a chance given their necessity to host the games during the winter for the Northern hemisphere which would cause TV viewership to shrink and broadcasters might even pull out from their deals for that reason which is the last thing the IOC wants. Finally, the new 2020 initiative or whatever is looking to spend less money and allowing a nation that is known for extreme spending would not help that.
  22. lets not forget that the IOC booted doha and baku twice (2016, 2020) not just for sheets and giggles. as seen on the score tables that make no sense to me: if someone wants to interpret these for me please do so thanks and hugs
  23. when i talked about the alpine venues i was referring to zhangjakou because thats where they're all going to be... idk to be honest and i think a lot of people also think this its a little hard to understand what you say
  24. they also have to build all that stuff for the apline events, which still costs a buttload of money. Quite literally (according to the chart) every alpine venue either has to be built or renovated, and we don't know how much renovation is needed either. Thats why I personally think they will end up spending a lot more that we're told now.
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