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  1. Logo launch maybe? :o:P

    I'm crossing my fingers, but I read on this site a while ago that it would be released on this date (http://logos.wikia.com/wiki/Tokyo_2020)

    The new logo will be launched on February 21, 2015 at 12PM Saturday afternoon in Tokyo, Japan.

    There is no source or anything so it could be total bs, but it's plausible given that the date is around the time TOCOG has to submit the games plan or whatever to the IOC, which includes the official logo.

  2. http://tokyo2020.jp/jp/news/index.php?mode=page&id=1193

    There's going to be a celebration for 2020 days to go until Tokyo 2020 on January 12th. It seems like a lot of prominent athletes will be present, and that they will be interviewed during the celebration in front of the Tokyo Metropolitan Building in Shinjuku. There's also going to be some sort of event called "Everybody Start" which sounds kind of cheesy but I have no idea what it is. It coincides with the Coming-of-age day in Japan that celebrates those turning 20 as they enter adulthood, and are invited to the event. Either way it's free so anyone can go.

  3. AND WHATS THIS ABOUT THE CHARLES NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCOMODATE ROWING?

    I've coxed on the Charles in the past. I know for a fact it would never work for what the IOC and FISA demands of it. The basin may be long enough for the 2000m course, but you're dealing with a river that narrows on either end of the basin. The amount of boats that need to get in and out would be mayhem if they tried to manage that in the Charles. Besides, the spectators would have to watch from the road basically, so using that course you wouldn't be able to build temporary spectator stands without blocking the roads on both sides of the river. Even though it's in the middle of Boston, the bad harshly outweighs the good in this case. If they do get chosen and go though to the end, not using the Charles is probably for the best.

  4. Demolition of the old stadium will start in the middle of December, delayed by more than two months from the initial schedule.

    Does anyone know if this has begun or anything? I haven't seen or heard anything online about demolition yet, so I'm just assuming it's happening.

    Just kidding. I found an article published at like 5pm ish Japan time about this.

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/12/30/national/national-stadium-demolition-trouble-getting-ground/#.VKMq5ivF98E

    So since the first bidding for the demolition had contracts that were too expensive and the second one seems to have been rigged, they had to do it a third time to get two contractors for the project. I'm hoping this doesn't hinder anything with the construction of the stadium later on, but the Japanese are good at doing things on time no matter what.

  5. I wanna start by saying that this is not anything that I found online, but it might as well be true.

    My dad, who is Japanese by the way, told me he read somewhere that since Pyeongchang is having a pretty hard time with, you know, inflating costs and such, the IOC is considering doing a co-hosting with Nagano so Pyeongchang doesn't have to build everything and then, even though they always say they will, never use them again.

    Once again I have no idea if this is true, but it might as well be with this Agenda 2020 and don't spend money program the IOC is going with nowadays.

  6. I've been thinking, does anyone know how exactly the roof will work? Given the images, it seems like two separate pieces of roof cover will come from each side of the stadium's opening, but will they overlap or just kind of leave a tiny crease in the middle? Will it allow a lot of light in like the material on the rest of the stadium or block out almost all sunlight?

    I'm just worried that we might face another Montreal where the roof kind of works but not really.

  7. Found this interesting news piece

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/features/update/movie201411131121.html

    This guy had an exhibition of kimonos representing the 196 nations (excluding sovereign states like Hong Kong and whatever I'm assuming), attempting to revitalize the profile of the kimono before the games.

    Do you think these country specific kimonos might be what the delegation sign holders or whatever they are called might wear? It would be a pretty neat idea if you ask me.

  8. That might have been generic marches that you picked up on...but the entire music for the 1984 Parade of Nations was planned and plotted out by a musical research specialist and director Tommy Walker and producer David Wolper timed the beats and bars of music (all pre-recorded) as best as they could just at about the time the 16 Commie nations said they weren't coming.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glAu9xxlMJ8#t=5643

    This is exactly it. They only played it for a few minutes but I was pretty sure I recognized it.

    Edit: oops I relinked LA by accident. I meant this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Oz89K6o1Y#t=121

  9. I remember reading somewhere that one of the main reasons they're demolishing not refurbishing is that it's not up to regulation anymore or something. I don't know what that really means but it is more than half a century old and they do use it for a lot of things throughout the year, so if they continue to it hopefully won't become a white elephant and the investment to redo the stadium completely will pay off.

    I'm just hoping its going to looks better in real life than in the renders.


    Edit: I went backa few pages cause I remember we talked about this before, and Palette posted this news article that's relevant.

    Ministry deems National Stadium renovation plans unrealistic

    The Yomiuri Shimbun

    4:23 am, August 20, 2014

    The Yomiuri Shimbun The sports ministry has deemed a proposal to renovate the National Stadium for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics unrealistic, because of a number of drawbacks including insufficient earthquake resistance and building regulations that prohibit the blocking of sunlight from nearby structures.

    Large-scale construction work would be required to improve the earthquake resistance of the current stadium, which officials say falls under the jurisdiction of both the Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Ministry and the Japan Sports Council. With this in mind, the ministry and the council want to build a new stadium.

    The renovation plans were presented by architect organizations and individual architects, including Toyoo Ito, who claim the reconstruction of a new stadium would damage the historic scenery of the Meiji Shrine Outer Gardens. The council and ministry have been reviewing these proposals.

    According to this review, previous earthquake resistance checks showed that the current stadium would probably collapse if an earthquake with an intensity of upper 6 on the Japanese scale occurred. To improve the stadium’s quake resistance, almost all of the stadium columns would have to be enlarged to nearly three times their current size. Walkways and waiting rooms would become narrower and smaller as a result, inconveniencing spectators and athletes. The council added that problems could also arise in managing the Paralympics.

    Another issue is that the seats in the northeastern area of the stadium would cast a shadow over the premises of the neighboring Seitoku Kinen Kaigakan, a museum. The shadow would violate Building Standards Law regulations that were revised after the stadium was completed. The issue must be resolved regardless of whether the renovation plan is adopted or not.

    Should renovation plans proceed, the seats in the northeastern section—one-quarter of total stadium capacity—would have to be removed. In addition, 80,000 seats must be provided as promised to the International Olympic Committee. To honor this promise, new seats would have to be installed at the southwestern side that extends from the premises, distorting the shape of the stadium.

    According to estimates, the total cost may be as high as ¥100 billion, including work to remove the seats. This is still less than the ¥136.7 billion needed to demolish the current stadium and build a new one. However, the state of the current stadium has continued to deteriorate as more than 50 years have passed since it was built.

    The ministry and the council believe a huge amount of funds would be needed to cover future repair work if the current stadium is used. Therefore, the ministry and council have concluded that renovating the stadium is unrealistic.

  10. http://www.designboom.com/architecture/meiji-jingu-gaien-stadium-petition-zaha-hadid-tokyo-olympics-05-14-2014/

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    One of the comments in this article kinda said what I was already thinking.

    While they raise some interesting points that need to be considered (and one wonders why they weren’t to begin with), I think there could be other motives behind their dissatisfaction with the stadium plans. The architects who are headlining this effort are both Japanese and male, while Zaha Hadid is both not Japanese and female. With this stadium being for the Olympics in Tokyo, it’s not a far stretch to suggest their objections are a mix of nationalism/racism, sexism, and pride.

    You have Toyo Ito, a Japanese architect who actually submitted a bid for the design of the stadium that ended up losing out to Hadid on the shortlist stage. He, among others, complain how the stadium sits there like a blob, out of context with the rest of the park. But looking at his stadium proposal, don't you think his design has the same problems? I doubt his rose only 15 meters off the ground too. This hypocracy kinda shows that the leading architects opposed to the design are mostly butthurt that their or their colleagues designs didn't get picks, but that's just my interpretation. B)

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  11. Here's a bunch of new documents from some sort of meeting the JSC had with people against the stadium, just so that the opposition could present their ideas even though it kinda doesn't matter at this point. I don't know all the details, but there are some pretty pictures of how the opposition imagined the stadium could be renovated...

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    The link to all the documents: http://www.jpnsport.go.jp/newstadium//tabid/446/Default.aspx

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