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  1. What if a bunch of Euro IOCers don't vote for China so China is unable to develop winter sports and won't be able to dominate the Euros in the events they usually win at in the Winter Olympics?

    I know none of them would say it outright, but it's just a thought. Not everyone is moral in the IOC...

    Also this kinda bugged me before but why did we use Annecy as a threshold of how experience gets you hosting rights? They lost pretty bad...

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  2. I love it when people educate themselves before writing newspaper articles

    If Boston stays in the race, it will have 32 months to convince the IOC that it is a more worthy host than a handful of other cities from around the world. Thus far, Paris, Rome, Berlin, Istanbul, Hamburg, Johannesburg, Durbin, St. Petersburg, Doha, Budapest and Melbourne have thrown their hats in the ring.

    Oh wait, I didn't know all those cities sent in bids already? <_<

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/12/the-olympic-bid-is-terrible-news-for-boston-s-pocketbooks.html

  3. C - Because I like the simplicity of it, and it's many meanings which is very common for these kinds of logos

    F - Very basic with the sakura, but is the most refined of all those like it

    I - idk It looks like an old logo and it looks cool that way

    O - This one shows off the different sights of Tokyo, which is cool. You have Fuji TV, Sky Tree, Metropolitan Building, Yoyogi Gymnasium, and some buildings that I can't recognize. The only thing I would have done differently if I made it would be change the colors a bit so they aren't the basic Olympic colors. Maybe something that represents Japan as a whole or something.

    P - This or O is my favorite. Sure, its the classic rising sun, but I can see this being the actual logo if it had the chance. It embodies the fans of the old days but at the same time looks modern. Also the gold text is a super plus, that's classic for Japan and is better than their current flesh colored version of gold the actual Tokyo 2020 team uses...

  4. Even if a vote did happen, it could still go through. Boston has hundreds of thousands of people, and only a small amount are involved in surveys and in total a couple hundred have spoken against it online. That leaves many people whose opinions we don't know, and those opinions could be in support rather than against as the opposition makes it out to be.

  5. Also I just have an epifany about where they can put the cauldron. I was looking at that article and in the slideshow they had old renders from the very beginning...

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    As you can see the walkway thing or "sky path" as they're calling it, is clearly visible there. Well, from that angle but whatever

    Sooooooo on the newest render I circled that same spot and I can see it being there or attached to that thing or something because given that the stadium is pretty much covered up and they don't want a melty stadium like vancouver had to work out, they can just put it outside but still visible to everybody during the ceremony (coughbeijingcough)

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    Crap i forgot to auto correct "epifany" its freakin epiphany jfk

  6. A lot of people compare what could happen in Boston only to games that have had bad things happen to them, and it makes them look really close minded towards the benefits of hosting that they're labeling as impossible even though they've been done before.

  7. This might just be me but after reading over the bid book I feel like Almaty has a pretty solid bid. The fact that so much will already have been build and used before the games because of previously staged international events and their several uses of the new Agenda 2020 guidelines to ensure a palpable and societal legacy really makes it seem like they know what they're doing and will be ready to host if chosen.

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  8. Looking at the twitter storm of #NoBostonOlympics, their perpetuated argument is that there is no transparency. Wasn't the idea of this bid process to be quiet so they wouldn't go out and spend hundreds of thousands on advertising and whatever else a bid team normally does?

    They also argue that there are always cost overruns, so therefore they should not host. I don't really see the reasoning. If they know there are always cost overruns and Boston has said, unlike many bids, that they actually have a "generous cushion" for cost overruns, how does that equate to immediate rejection?

    Finally, they complain about traffic and the transportation. All cities are like that, it doesn't just go away like magic. Events like the Olympics give the incentive to try and fix these problems by refurbishing the public transport and the road systems so they will function better. Apparently a lot of those who support #NoBostonOlympics did not really look about how past Olympics had been run except for those that are infamous for cost overruns or failed legacy (coughbeijing andathenscough)

    Either way, it's just like my mama always said. Only people who don't like it go online to write a review.

  9. Germany- bids for 2024 Euro Cup, correct me if I'm wrong but im pretty sure the IOC doesn't allow two sporting events in on year (ie Istanbul)

    I actually didn't notice that. They have been in the running since 2013 which is way before their study into 2024, and until they announce their bidding intentions I think they're just gonna stick in there for the Euro Cup so if the Olympics don't go through for some reason they still have that going for 'em.

  10. Exactly. If Paris & South Africa refrain, & all we have is Baku-ku & Doha-ha, & perhaps a weak Rome bid (due to their staggering economy), Boston would stand a chance then. It's how the stars aligned for repeat host Tokyo against the two new cities, they were competing with, that never hosted before.

    That's exactly what I was thinking. Has Rome's economy really changed since their 2020 bid? Not enough that they can justify hosting the games any better than before. Paris, even though everyone talks like they have already declared they're bidding, are far from it. We haven't really heard anything from South Africa about their bid either. Studies and all, until they present a bid that will benefit the people of South Africa and not just show off that they can do it and leave the population in extreme debt, we can't really assume that they'll be there in 2017.

    I see Germany as being Boston's main opposition, and both would be great hosts, really. Maybe Germany will make a weird presentation that kinda just asks for the games like Helsinki did for the IOC session (which was painful to watch by the way) and Boston will have an emotional, oprah and obama-less presentation that puts them on top.

  11. I wouldn't know, but I assume that Atlanta was seen in a similar light when it was chosen by the USOC. "Why would a city in the Deep South that half the world doesn't know about be chosen and how could they win" is what I imagine people thought... But they did win. Sure the bidding field wasn't as competitive and Athens was a dick and kinda thought they deserved them, but they still won and the gap since the US had last hosted was much smaller. If Boston can prove it wont use public funds (public from the city, because they're already planning using federal funds), will have some sort of economic turn around while still having everything they need to host "supaab games" as Mr. Takeda would say, they stand a chance.

  12. What bid doesn't have opposition? The approval rating is never 100%, so we shouldn't expect it to be. Anyway, I think shooting over to the East Coast and specifically the Northeast is a good change of face from the past. Atlanta was on the east, but the South is a different place with a different culture.

    Though, Boston and Montreal are kinda close ;)

  13. I'm gonna try to post new articles in a more appealing format than a link and my summary ;)

    Tokyo Olympics organizer: 2015 a key year

    The head of the organizing committee for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics says this will be an important year for the committee.

    Former Prime Minister Yoshiro Mori addressed about 200 staff members of the committee on Monday, the 1st working day of the New Year.

    Mori said the committee will soon mark the 1st anniversary of its launch.

    He said the members will have to explain the committee's plan for the 2020 Games at the International Olympic Committee's general assembly in Kuala Lumpur in July.

    Mori said the staff must maintain their spirits and work hard bearing in mind that the 2020 Games will set the foundation for future Olympics.

    The number of the committee's staff has risen about 4-fold to 218 since it was set up last January.

    Following the IOC's recent decision to allow host cities to propose additional events for the Games, the Tokyo organizing committee is expected to focus on narrowing the number of candidate events for the 2020 Olympics.

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20150105_18.html

    Tokyo 2020 Olympic Village to be hydrogen-powered

    TOKYO —

    The athletes village for the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo will be a futuristic “hydrogen town” where electricity and hot water are generated from the abundant element, a local newspaper reported Monday.

    Planners at the Tokyo metropolitan government want to use the opportunity of hosting the summer sporting festival as a boost to so-called “clean” energy, the Yomiuri Shimbun said.

    The city aims to build hydrogen stations and pipelines that will send the gas to accommodation units, athletic facilities and restaurants, the mass-circulation daily said.

    Fuel cells installed at facilities would then use the hydrogen, in combination with oxygen from the air, to produce power and to heat water.

    Buses ferrying athletes around would also be fuelled by hydrogen, and refilled from special stations.

    The report comes after Toyota Motor last month rolled out the world’s first mass-market fuel-cell car in Japan.

    Hydrogen power is classed as clean energy because it produces only water as a by-product at the point of use.

    The athletes’ village will be located in Tokyo’s Harumi waterfront area and will be temporary home to around 17,000 people during the Games.

    Once the Games are over, it will be converted into a town with a population about 10,000, the Yomiuri said.

    The contract for planning the village will be awarded to a private company by the end of March, the paper reported, with the use of hydrogen a condition for application.

    Despite its abundancy, hydrogen does not occur naturally as a gas and needs to be extracted from compounds. The Yomiuri noted that production of a large quantity of hydrogen was challenging.

    “Realisation of a hydrogen-based society is an important goal for resource-poor Japan and would lead to curbing of greenhouse gases,” Takeo Kikkawa, commerce and management professor at Hitotsubashi University in Tokyo, told the paper.

    “There are not a small number of technical tasks but the Tokyo Olympics is a big chance to realise it. As the athletes village is built from scratch, it would be an ideal large-scale experiment,” he said.

    The Tokyo government said it was not immediately able to confirm the report but noted the city’s long-term policy goals included “promotion of smart energy”.

    “The athletes village aims to realise a model city for smart energy,” the city said in a report titled ‘Long-Term Vision for Tokyo’ released last month.

    The village should “show domestically and internationally what a city with sustainable growth would be like through such measures as use of hydrogen energy,” it said.

    http://www.japantoday.com/category/sports/view/tokyo-2020-olympic-village-to-be-hydrogen-powered

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