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  1. New Olympic stadium to have fixed roof over seats

    Japan's government is expected to decide that the new national stadium in Tokyo will be a sports-only facility with a fixed roof over the spectator seats.

    The plan has emerged as a way to curb the construction costs for the stadium, which will be the main arena for the 2020 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

    Officials are asking athletes and sports organizations to give their views on the project. The original construction plan was for a multi-purpose facility with a retractable roof. It was sent back to the drawing board when the cost estimate exceeded 2 billion dollars.

    Under the new plan, the government will ask private- sector firms to manage the stadium after the 2020 Games to make further savings.

    Officials are set to draw up a new construction plan by the end of this month, stipulating the stadium's functions and the maximum budget.

    They are expected to solicit design proposals from businesses in early September.

    The officials also plan to check the progress of the project to be implemented by the Japan Sport Council. Experts will also help with the inspections.

    The government is expected to decide on the basic outline of the construction plan at a meeting of Cabinet ministers on Friday.


    I though this was pretty self-evident...

  2. 2020 Tokyo Olympics stadium architect speaks out
    The architect who designed a new national stadium for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics says she wants to keep working on the project based on a new budget.

    The Japanese government scrapped its initial plan to use the design after it was met with strong criticism for the sharp rise in projected costs.

    The London-based architect Zaha Hadid spoke to NHK on Monday.

    Hadid said the ballooning cost was due to a rise in material prices and that her design is not to blame.

    She said the best way to avoid wasting time is for her design team to be retained to refine the project.

    She said they spent two and a half years on the design and have enormous knowledge about the project.

    Hadid also said she has sent a letter to Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, but has not received a response.

    She stressed if she is invited to Tokyo, she wants to explain the logic of the design to Abe.

    Hadid pointed out that the important thing is to make a good stadium which could be used after the Olympics games for other events and sports.

    She was also asked about the possibility of taking legal action if her team is completely cut off. She replied that she still has hope that the issue may develop positively and will wait to see what happens.

    I audibly said, "No go away" when I read this. She really doesn't take rejection well.

  3. While fans can be complete idiots at times, we always do wonder at situations like this if as the writer stated nearly 100 years ago, is if the booing is simply being a poor sport of not being able to accept defeat, or is it something more nefarious as being angry at the country. This situation arises in NHL games all the time, and I always wonder, especially in the NHL where nationality of the players is not even an issue, (every team could be considered a Canadian team so to speak) the occasional anthem booing incident during playoff time, is it being a poor sport, or is it a political statement. Remember, the Olympics are supposed to keep politics and sports apart, but national hymns, like Italy's "Let us join in a cohort, we are ready to die, we are ready to die, Italy has called" is further form the idea of a politics free sports event.

    An example could be how, in the past two Eurovision Song Contests, the Russian performers were booed before and after their performance and (more often in 2014) when they received top points of any kind. I don't think this booing happened because the other people in the Arena from all over Europe were sore losers, in fact in 2014 when they got booed the most Russia was not on top of the board. So yes, I think that any booing during a medal ceremony is always due to political issues. I think anyone would see it as a sort of faux pas if you were to boo just because you lost. Imagine the silver and bronze medalists booing!

  4. 10 Aug. 2015 - Yamato Holdings Becomes a Tokyo 2020 Official Partner

    Yamato Holdings Co., Ltd. (Yamato Holdings) has today been appointed as the latest Tokyo 2020 Official Partner. The Tokyo 2020 Organising Committee today welcomed the company as its Partner in the category of “Logistics Services.”

    Tokyo 2020’s now has a total of 17 Partners, including four Official Partners, the second domestic tier of Tokyo 2020 Sponsorship Programme.


  5. One of my pet peeves currently is very specific. As far as I know, the only full length version of the Sochi 2014 closing ceremony is on the Olympic youtube channel... commentated in English... and in Arabic at the same time. The english commentators are very sparse which is good, but the arabic one continues to talk through the music which I do not like.

  6. Poll: 80 percent intrerested in Tokyo Olympics
    Aug. 8, 2015 - Updated 13:06 UTC-4

    A government survey on the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics shows about 80 percent of those polled are interested in the games but only around 50 percent intend to go to the venues to watch events.

    The Cabinet Office conducted its first survey on the Games in June, covering 3,000 people throughout Japan. 62.4 percent, or 1,873 people, responded.

    Results show that 81.9 percent of respondents said they are interested in the Tokyo Olympics while18 percent said they are not.

    51.2 percent said they want to go to arenas and other venues to watch events. 48.7 percent said they don't want to go.

    As for the Paralympics, the results show 70.3 percent are interested, 36.4 percent hope to go to the venues to watch events and 29.5 percent expressed no interest.

    Respondents were asked what aspects of Japan they want to convey to the world. Those polled were allowed to choose more than one item. 62.4 percent said the country's “safety and security" while 62.1 percent said “Japan's traditional values such as hospitality."

    An official from the sports ministry says it will work to ensure that many people attend the games and that it will also strive to enhance people's interest in the Paralympics.


  7. Capacity is at 49,970. The athletics stadium for Rio has a capacity smaller than that but it's being increased to about 60k. What Tokyo could do, and this to me is a better option, is increase the capacity of Ajinomoto to 60k or more and just build a brand new stadium that is football/soccer/rugby purpose with Olympic capacity and equipped to host the opening and closing ceremonies. Since these type of stadiums are smaller than stadiums that are equipped for track and field, it could possibly be built in time for the Rugby world cup as well.

    I don't think that's something that they would do, though. Look at the 2002 World Cup. Out of the ten stadiums built for the event, only four were football-specific. The rest included tracks, even the Final venue. Track events on a local level do happen often, and the old National Stadium held several track events after the Olympics, Including the IAAF Championships. For the reason to be able to host local, national, and international track events, I don't think that the National Stadium would be built as a football stadium solely.

    And expanding Ajinomoto might be harder than in Rio. In Rio there are already gaps that seating can be constructed in that used to be open to the surrounding area. Ajinomoto is enclosed and filled up to the roof. They would have to tear off the roof and build an entirely new one for this to work.

  8. This was posted in the logo thread as part of another news story, but it's applicable here.

    Last month, it suddenly scrapped the design for the new National Stadium, the centerpiece of the Games, due to public outrage over skyrocketing costs. A new design will be chosen later this year and construction will begin in 2016.

    A committee from Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party met to discuss the stadium on Tuesday.

    Their recommendations, to be submitted to the government as early as Friday, may include building a smaller stadium and opting not to build a new one at all, instead relying on existing stadiums.

    No cost estimates have yet been established.


    It seems like the statements contradict each other, stating that they will get the new design and start construction, but that the LDP might recommend building a smaller one and not building one at all? I'm thinking it's just worded awkwardly.

    However, as someone stated in the sister thread on this topic on SSC, the national stadium is Japan's Wembley, Japan's Maracana. I don't think it's really an option to just build nothing. The closest stadium in Tokyo is the Ajinomoto Stadium, which is not nearly big enough to host the Athletics and the OC/CC.

  9. The IOC disgusts me. It disgusts me because it doesn't surprise me anymore, because money is more important than a snowy and compact bid. Beijing is like the WORST bid in Winter Olympics history, and yet they were chosen.

    Someone must have said this before, but what choice did they have? They had two choices, because after Sochi set the perfect example of how to not host a Winter Olympics, Europeans and their people were scared away. But, now that the Agenda 2020 is truly in effect for the 2024 race, you can see that faith is beginning to return. If people still thought the Olympics was all about money no one would be bidding for 2024 except Baku and Doha.

    Think of this 2014-2022 (excluding Rio and Tokyo, even Pyeongchang in some respects) as the 1976-1988 period. You had, between 1976-1984, a grand total of 3 different cities bidding. Then, in 1988, you had a former-military dictatorship and an experienced host country testing the waters with a new city. It just wasn't a good period for the IOC, but the games hosted were great games, at least for the athletes.

  10. If anyone is interested, the Prime Minister has opened a forum for public opinion, and can be done in both Japanese and English from within Japan or abroad.


    The first line (テーマ) is the subject line, like in an email.

    ​The second line is where you write your opinion (2000 character max).

    The third line is age, then under that is gender.

    The fourth line is address, but for most you will scroll to the bottom and select 海外, or foreign countries.

    The line under that is, if you put foreign countries, the name of the country you are submitting from.

    Finally, the last line is, as stated in English, your email address.

  11. It would be great to see the Aussies throw their hats into the (5) rings again!

    But is Brisbane the right candidate? Is it big and well-known enough on a world scale? Remember, the recent trend is for big, world-famous, iconic cities. Sydney and Melbourne certainly fit this bill, but does Brisbane?

    I think the IOC wants smaller cities, maybe to demonstrate that they can host the games without spending a lot. Since Coates is on the EB, I think he endorsed Brisbane to set an example for this.

  12. "Debie admits his design, published in 2013, is not registered as a trademark.

    But he said a formal complaint has been sent to the IOC through his lawyer because the theatre is 'constantly engaged in exchanges with the whole world' and 'doesn't want to have something resembling their logo'."

    I think the Tokyo 2020 games will be a little more engaged with the entire world than the theater...


  13. Wrong. See my reply in the Koala Lumpur thread. If the Belgian theatre had money and if their income depended on the logo, they have every legal right to it. But they don't have the money to fight a Japanese entity. But morally and ethically, Theatre de Leige came out with it first -- and of course Tokyo just added the red dot and since they have the money, have copyrighted it. Theatre de Leige is/was in no position to register their trademark because they are a non-profit organization. They make their money on their productions; not on their logo. But they still came out with it first. And shame on Japan and the IOC. F*cking thieves.

    So if the Belgian goes to court and says, "Well I made it first so they should stop" and that will be it? Of course not. Like you just said, the company does not have a trademark, so him going to court and yelling plagiarism has no backing. It's extremely likely that it was just a coincidence, as it could be with such a simple design. For some reason he must believe that there will be great confusion between his theater and Tokyo 2020, when there will be a lot more people associating the design with Tokyo, not a small theater in the middle of Europe, just a fact. I think the belgian designer is trying to milk out money from the IOC and TOCOG just because their logos are similar. Maybe he's the thief.

  14. TOCOG should do the same if they are honorable. And Phandrosis, stop defending the IOC and TOCOG. They are wrong in this case.

    I don't think they are wrong, though. First of all, both logos are triangles and rectangles and circles. It's very likely it was just a coincidence, but the Belgians are convinced that the designer saw the theater logo, copied it, and resubmitted it. Just because the company made it first doesn't mean that they have the right to get it removed. The logos are not the same, and if the Belgian goes to court and tries to say that they are, he will fail. I don't think TOCOG and the IOC should bow down to some whining designer who's angry that a logo similar to his is being seen worldwide while his theater logo won't be. Claiming that he made it first in court wont hold up against Tokyo who have the legal right to use their logo.

  15. Few notes from Tokyo 2020 report:

    1- Coates states that since the Belgian only has intellectual properties and not copyright registers for the design, Tokyo 2020 is in the right to keep using the logo, as is the IOC. If he went to court now, I think he would be embarrassing himself, especially compared to the humble Spaniards dragged in who said they would be honored to have been an inspiration for the logo.

    2- Bach clearly states twice that the cost rises that caused the change of 10 IF venues and the National Stadium were not due to the Olympics, but general rise in costs due to greater costs for raw materials and sparse labor that is being focused on the Touhoku Region.

    3- The new sports' IFs will be interviewed later next week by TOCOG, who will send their recommendations on which IFs should be accepted to the IOC exec. board, who will re-recommend to the Session as a whole in Rio, where they will vote on inclusion. The sports will be added upon existing core sports, so there is no worry that other sports will lose athlete spots nor lose their place all together.

  16. Just now in the Tokyo 2020 report, there was a good conversation over the emblem brought up by Prince Alboort. Coates explained that the theater may have intellectual properties on a logo similar to Tokyo, but have no copyright registers on it, as confirmed by both TOCOG and the IOC. Therefore, Tokyo 2020 has every right to use the logo.

    President Bach later comments that, "I'm very disappointed that the Belgian theatre is claiming the rights for the national colors of Germany being in this logo, so..."

    Basically, the IOC has responded to the Belgian by saying no, they're not going to stop using the emblem since Tokyo 2020 has the legal right to continue, and since you do not hold a copyright on the certain aspects similar, there's little you can do to refute. Rightly so.

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