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  1. From these three releases I've gathered the most recent facts about the reconstruction.




    • The competition for contractors/designs will start on September 1st and end in December 2015, with the beginning of construction slated for December 2016 at the latest.
    • The capacity will be 68,000 with the track, but it is unclear whether they will construct temporary seats over the track for football at a total of 80,000 or remove the track, build permanent seats, and if needed construct a temporary track similar to Glasgow in 2014. I'm pretty sure they're going to build a permanent track with temporary seats as needed, but nothing official yet.
    • The idea of a museum and sky walkway (basically Hadid's design) have been eliminated.
    • VIP areas are remaining, but are reduced.
    • Underground parking and other facilities are also being reduced, reducing the overall area of the stadium at 13% less than before.
    • Air conditioning will be removed, given that it wont work that well anyway
    • Some sources claim the roof over only the upper stands, some over all the seats. This is still unclear.

    I imagine the Japan Sports Council will post something about the design contest in the coming weeks, but we'll see. Maybe they'll personally reach out to Japanese architects only...

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  2. Here's the news story about the finalized restrictions on the stadium. I'm not sure about the roof covering only the upper tier, given that other news sources claim that the roof will cover all the seats. When a final report is released in full we'll see.

    Japan draws up new plan for Olympic stadium

    The Japanese government has decided on a new plan for a national stadium to be used in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics.

    Cabinet ministers endorsed it on Friday morning.

    The plan limits construction costs to 155 billion yen, or about 1.3 billion dollars. The government last month scrapped the previous plan, estimated at about 2.1 billion dollars, due to public criticism over skyrocketing costs.

    The new stadium will have about 68,000 seats for the Tokyo Games. They can be increased to 80,000 if necessary, for a World Cup soccer match.

    The stadium's roof will cover only the upper seats. A sub-track for warmups will be built within a walking distance from the stadium.

    The stadium is set for completion by the end of April 2020. But the government plans to seek advice from designers and construction firms to finish it by the end of January of that year, as requested by the International Olympic Committee.

    The government says the new national stadium should be a place where athletes can give their best performances. It should also convey Japanese tradition and culture to the world.

  3. A little news...

    Original design of Olympic logo revealedThe organizing committee of the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games has revealed the original design of the logo for the Games created by Japanese art director Kenjiro Sano.

    Belgian graphic designer Olivier Debie went to court in Belgium earlier this month, saying Sano's logo is extremely similar to the theater logo that he made 2 years ago. He demands that the International Olympic Committee stop using the emblem for the Tokyo Games.

    The committee said on Friday that in the original design, the letter T is easier to understand and the red circle is below and to the right, not at the upper right like in the current one.
    After checking international trademarks, it found the original design is similar to a registered logo, so that Sano modified the original design 2 times.
    The secretary general of the committee, Toshiro Muto, told reporters the original design shows that the creation process makes it quite different from the Belgian theater logo.

    Muto said the current emblem represents the concept and vision of the Tokyo Games. He also said that the Olympic and Paralympic logos make a pair by which people can understand that the Tokyo Olympics logo is unlike the Belgian theater's logo.

    Muto said it is regrettable the lawsuit has been filed but he hopes the concept of the emblem could be understood.




  4. Here are the renders from the document ZHA released stating that any other design would be terrible and that their design is the only good one. They even badmouth London and Sydney for attempting temporary stands. There's a lot of photos so I put them in an album.


    I suggest looking at the document themselves. There's a lot of interesting stuff. One thing is that when compating roof heights, she states that a stadium that is built without "hills" (like Rome's OS) would be taller than hers, even though when referencing the height of her stadium, she uses the walkway on the edge of the seating bowl, not the actual peak of the arches. hmm...



  5. Two new pieces of information highlighting the apparent minimum capacity and maximum price for designers/contractors to work with. IMO 68,000 should be plenty for permanent, given that they're more likely to fill the stadium to capacity for future large scale events that take place in the new stadium. I suppose this means that they're not doing the retractable seating, instead they're probably going to construct deconstructable seating on top of the track.

    Olympic stadium cost limit to be 155 billion yenThe Japanese government plans to limit the cost to build a new national stadium for the 2020 Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic Games at 155 billion yen, or about 1.29 billion dollars.

    The government reached agreement on the ceiling on Thursday, one day before relevant cabinet ministers are expected to endorse the new construction plan.

    The plan will outline the stadium's functions, building schedule, as well as the total cost limit.

    Earlier on Thursday, the minister in charge of the Olympics, Toshiaki Endo, briefed Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of the plan. He also discussed the plan with senior officials of the governing Liberal Democratic Party.

    Last month, Abe announced that the government will review the initial construction plan for the main stadium from scratch. This came after a public outcry over costs that ballooned to 252 billion yen, or 2.1 billion dollars.


    Olympic minister: Stadium could seat 80,000The minister in charge of the Olympic and Paralympic Games, Toshiaki Endo, says that bringing in temporary seats would allow the new national stadium to accommodate as many as 80,000 spectators.

    Endo spoke to reporters later on Thursday.

    He said the vice president of the International Olympic Committee, John Coates, had asked that the stadium seat 68,000 people for the opening ceremony of the Tokyo Games.

    Endo added that using temporary seats could increase the capacity to some 80,000 if necessary for a World Cup soccer match.


  6. Japan needs to tell the IOC that they can either accept the existing stadium in Yokohama or go to hell. Imagine if Japan spends $2-2.5 billion on a stadium that is not useable by summer 2020 anyway. This could end up being a worse disaster for the IOC than Montreal.

    I don't think it will, since the situation Montreal dealt with was much worse than what Tokyo is in. In Montreal, they chose to build a huge, unreasonably big and gaudy stadium with large concrete structures and a tower using building methods construction workers were not familiar with, causing them to go on strike. The new design, whatever it may be, for Tokyo will most definitely not be as complicated to build as Montreal or the original Hadid design. The simpler the design, the quicker they will be able to construct it.

    They won't ever resort to Yokohama because they simply have too much pride to give up on rebuilding the National Stadium. It is a national landmark and they want to show it off during the Olympics. Even if it is more feasible to go to Yokohama, I doubt that TOCOG would ever propose it.

    Some more news... it seems that Hadid might resubmit her design with an even more reduced capacity and less amenities, but still with the arches (?). It could be chosen, but I think the board that will choose the design are biased enough not to.

    Tokyo stadium architect urges use of initial planThe architect of the initial design of the main stadium for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics says her scrapped plan could be modified to lower its cost.

    London-based Zaha Hadid says in a video released by her office that 2 to 3 years were spent on the design.

    The video says that by revising the plan and holding competitive bidding, the stadium could be built less expensively without changing the basic design. It says the revision would include no air conditioning for spectator seating as well as slashed capacity.

    The video says 2 rooftop arches in the initial design do not push up costs, but rather help shorten construction time by allowing the roof and stands to be built at the same time. The giant arches were criticized as raising the cost due to their high technological demands.

    Japan's government is expected to decide on a new plan as soon as Friday.

    Hadid's office says redesigning from scratch would only invite unnecessary risks. It urges the government to make use of the initial plan to ensure completion of the stadium by January 2020.

    Japan's minister in charge of the games, Toshiaki Endo, told reporters on Wednesday that the government will pick the design that gets the highest evaluation, and that Hadid's proposal could be chosen.

    And related, said board is going to set a limit for the proposed cost early on so designers know that they can't try to be too extravagant...

    Olympic stadium panel to limit costs earlyThe head of the panel choosing a new plan for Tokyo's main Olympic stadium says they need to set a realistic limit on costs during the selection process.

    Shuzo Murakami chairs the Japan Sport Council screening committee. He made the remark on Wednesday in a meeting with the minister in charge of the Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic Games, Toshiaki Endo.

    Endo said the International Olympic Committee had asked that the main stadium be ready by January 2020, the year of the Tokyo Games.

    He asked the panel to choose a design that showcases Japan's cutting-edge technology.

    The Cabinet is expected to endorse a new construction plan for the stadium and stipulate time and cost limits as early as Friday

    Here's the video that ZHA released defending their original design.

  7. MSDF officers sent to Australia for submarine bidThe Maritime Self-Defense Force has sent a 9-member team to Australia to join Japan's bid for a project to develop a new fleet of Australian submarines.

    MSDF Chief of Staff Tomohisa Takei unveiled the move at a news conference in Tokyo on Tuesday.

    Japan is participating in the competitive bidding process along with France and Germany. Australia is expected to choose a partner for the joint project by the end of the year.

    The MSDF officers joined officials from the Defense Ministry and Japanese manufacturers and paid visits to local firms on Monday.

    Japan's delegation is scheduled to exchange views on Wednesday with the Australian side on how they can share their roles.

    Takei said Australia is a strategic partner that has common security interests with Japan, and that it's important to maintain close contact with the country.

    The Japanese government last year adopted Guidelines for the Three Principles of Transfer of Defense Equipment and Technology to other countries.

    Based on the guidelines, the National Security Council decided in May that Japan would enter the bidding to jointly develop Australian submarines.


    Is it possible?

    oops my bad, copied the wrong article. Here's the correct one.

    IOC wants new Tokyo stadium by January 2020The International Olympic Committee has asked the Japanese government to have the new main stadium for the 2020 Tokyo Games ready by January of that year.

    Japan's Minister in charge of the Tokyo Olympic and Paralympic Games, Toshiaki Endo, met on Tuesday with IOC Vice President John Coates. Coates chairs the Coordination Commission for Tokyo 2020.

    They were joined by Yoshiro Mori, who heads the Tokyo Organising Committee for the Olympic and Paralympic Games.

    Endo explained the government will decide by the end of this month a construction plan outlining the design of the new stadium, its costs and the time it takes to build.

    He said the process of choosing contractors will begin early next month.

    Endo stressed the Cabinet is taking responsibility for completing the stadium in time for the event.

    Coates expressed hope the new stadium will be handed over to the organizing committee with enough time left to run final tests.

    He asked the government to move up its construction schedule by a few months.


  8. People have said this before. The designs that are criticized for plagiarism (except, you know, the ones that actually were plagirism) were all abstract designs using basic shapes and block colors. If an artist looks out and tries to find a shape that's both feasible and unused, they probably wont find anything. So, it's almost inevitable that some designs will be similar to others. I predict that the lawsuit will either happen and Debie will probably lose just because he doesn't have the proper evidence to prove Sano is guilty, or the IOC or TOCOG will pay him off so he'll go away.

    In unrelated news,

    Drawings of athletes adorn Haneda airport

    Drawings of athletes will adorn the outer walls of passenger boarding bridges at Haneda Airport ahead of the Tokyo 2020 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

    The 50 "sumi-e" ink wash images feature athletes competing in 28 Olympic events and 22 Paralympic events.

    This project was launched by a Japanese financial group firm which is one of the sponsors for the Games.

    A ceremony to unveil the drawings was held on Monday. Teenage gymnast Kenzo Shirai, and track athlete Saki Takakuwa who took part in the 2012 London Paralympic Games attended.

    Shirai told reporters he was amazed by the dynamic drawings. While holding the drawing of a gymnast on the rings, he said with a smile that he must work harder to excel in the rings.

    The drawings will be displayed on the bridges by the end of next month.


  9. Little bit of new allegations, but I think you'll agree that this time it's a little ridiculous. Maybe this designer saw the opportunity for a little free cash from a lawsuit.

    Tokyo Olympics logo designer faces fresh plagiarism claim from U.S. artist

    Another work by Tokyo Olympics logo designer Kenjiro Sano is generating concern about plagiarism, this time in the United States, with an American artist saying he is considering legal action.

    Sano’s design for the 2020 Games has prompted a lawsuit in Belgium alleging plagiarism of a logo for a theater, an accusation he denies. But he admitted last week that his team “traced” other people’s designs for eight of 30 promotional tote bags offered by a beverage company in an ongoing campaign through this month.

    The latest case concerns Sano’s logo for a museum and library building being constructed in Ota, Gunma Prefecture. The design features circled dots and straight lines representing “BITO” in roman letters.

    “BI” is taken from the first two letters of “bijutsukan,” the word for “museum” in Japanese, and “TO” from “toshokan,” or “library” in Japanese, according to information on the city’s website.

    U.S. designer Josh Divine, who used circled dots and lines in his “Dot” logo released in 2011, said the two works “are very similar in style, proportion, color and shape.”

    Sano’s creation for the museum “may be derivative of my work,” Divine said.

    “I’m speaking with a lawyer but haven’t made a final decision regarding legal action,” he said in an email inquiry from Kyodo News.

    Divine said, “Seeing someone take your hard work as their own is insulting.” He said that after reading about Sano and the allegations against him lately, “the alleged plagiarism seems blatant and intentional.”

    One of Sano’s logos for the Higashiyama Zoo and Botanical Gardens in Japan also drew concerns it plagiarizes a logo used by the National Museum of Costa Rica, prompting the zoo to request a probe. Sano’s office has denied that the logos are similar.


    If anyone's curious, these are the zoo/museum logos referred to in the article.



  10. Olympic minister:Stadium should be below $1.6 bil.

    Japan's Cabinet minister in charge of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics says the new National Stadium to be built for the Games should cost less than 200 billion yen, or about 1.6 billion dollars.

    On Saturday, Toshiaki Endo explained the government's plan, which is to be finalized by the end of this month.

    Last month, the government scrapped the initial plan due to the swelling costs and decided to draw up a new one.

    Endo said that 3 years ago the construction cost was projected to be 130 billion yen, or just above one billion dollars.

    He added that if the initial plan were implemented, the cost would have exceeded 200 billion yen, largely due to rising commodity prices.

    The minister said the government must do all it can to bring the total down to a sum that can win the public's approval.


    Why 1.6? MetLife, currently the most expensive stadium in the world, was 1.6 billion. Basically, they don't want to make it possible to have built the most expensive stadium in the world. Second is the best, anyway.

  11. I saw that one and all the other proposals, and in my opinion the fan or the blossom or the tokyo city logo are all a little too cliché for an olympic logo. If all logos were created to show the one part of the host city and country's culture that the world is already familiar with, we might have had a Christ the Redeemer statue for Rio, Big Ben for London (again, weirdly enough), Mao for Beijing, and on and on.

    The idea is that the logo should be recognizable around the world, but shouldn't be created to show something that the world already knows about the city and country. Sure, it's hard to see how Tokyo's official logo represents the city, but the story behind it demonstrates the same values that the games and the IOC share. This is just my opinion and I understand that a successful logo should be targeted to a worldwide audience, but I personally think that strategy simply takes the most popular (and most fetishized) aspect of the respective culture and recycles it like with any other logo for an event in the city or country.

    Unrelated to my point, the lawsuit is officially filed at the IOC and I assume TOCOG as well that, if Debie wins, he will get reparations of US $55,000 each time the logo is used. I understand he doesn't want a logo similar to his to be used on such a large scale, but it does seem that he's trying to milk this situation to his benefit instead of standing by his original argument of artistic integrity. To put it in perspective, the Olympic logo is used very often, so if Debie wins a lot of money will be lost by the IOC and the TOCOG budget.

    (source: http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1029426/tokyo-2020-logo-designer-apologises-amid-plagiarism-allegations )

  12. Kind of unrelated, but I found this browsing Wikipedia. It had no source so who knows, but it's interesting...

    Recently many host prefectures have built large scale venues in which to host various events, with a large focus on appearance. Examples include Nagai Stadium, Miyagi Stadium, Ōita Bank Dome, Tohoku Electric Power Big Swan Stadium, Shizuoka Stadium and International Stadium Yokohama. These were generally acknowledged as being built for the 2002 FIFA World Cup, but in reality their construction purpose was to be the main arena of the tournaments (however the International Stadium Yokohama was built with the intention of potentially hosting an Olympic games, and Nagai Stadium was renovated rather than built from scratch).


  13. On twitter I've seen a bunch of people posting this story claiming Sano had legitimately plagiarized other designs for a Suntory campaign. This is obvious, since these designs are obviously copied.


    However, it's best to know the full story.

    Designer admits colleague copied others' work

    A Japanese designer has acknowledged that a colleague at his company copied the work of other artists when the firm did design work for a major beverage maker.

    Kenjiro Sano has been in the media spotlight because of the close similarity between the logo he created for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and a Belgian designer's logo for a local theater.

    Sano apologized in a statement on his company's website on Friday regarding the firm's work for the beverage maker. He said he feels a sense of responsibility and says that such a thing should never have happened.

    The problem surfaced when tote bags his company designed for major brewery Suntory came to the attention of Internet users because they looked like designs in other art works.

    The brewer has been giving away the bags to customers as part of a sales campaign for its non-alcoholic beer.

    On Thursday, at the request of Sano, the company withdrew 8 designs from a list of 30 patterns that customers could choose from.

    Sano said an in-house investigation proved his staff copied other artists' work. He said he had no knowledge of that and had never been informed about the matter.

    After the logo for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics was unveiled in July, a Belgium-based graphic designer claimed it closely resembles one he created for a local theater 2 years ago.

    The Belgian designer is demanding that the International Olympic Committee not use Sano's logo for the Tokyo Games.

    Regarding the Olympic logo, Sano again denied allegations he copied the Belgian designer's work.

    He said he created it by himself, not with his staff, and so the process in designing the logo was totally different from that used for the bags.


  14. One of the reasons that they chose to tear it down is that the stadium was not up to the modern Japanese earthquake safety standards. It did survive fine in 2011, but the quake was not in Tokyo. If there was a quake in the Tokyo area, the 50 year old stadium would likely crumble. If they had tried to reinforce the stadium and add more on, There would be little to no space outside the stadium with new pillars, they would have to dig down into the foundation to re-reinforce it, and unrelated the track and field facilities were no longer capable of hosting large scale athletic competitions and, specifically, was likely the reason the National Stadium was not chosen as a 2002 World Cup venue even though it was already existing and had a capacity greater than most of the new stadiums built for the World Cup.

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  15. Here we go...

    Belgian designer files lawsuit over Olympic logo

    A Belgium-based graphic designer has filed a lawsuit demanding that the International Olympic Committee not use the current logo for the 2020 Tokyo Games.

    Olivier Debie, from Liege, eastern Belgium, says the logo closely resembles one he created for a theater in the city 2 years ago.

    Debie sent a cease-and-desist letter to the IOC and the Organising Committee of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics on July 31st.

    He said the Tokyo emblem violates copyright and that he will take legal action if the organizations fail to suspend its use within 8 days.

    A lawyer for the designer issued a statement on Friday, saying that his client had filed a lawsuit with a Belgian court.

    The Belgian side said in the statement that they will pursue the facts in court. They added a trial will begin on September 22nd.

    On Wednesday of last week, the designer of the Tokyo emblem, Kenjiro Sano, held a news conference in Tokyo. He denied allegations that he copied Debie's logo.

    The IOC also said the Belgian logo was not a registered trademark and that there is no problem in using the Tokyo emblem.

    The Tokyo Organising Committee said on Friday that it will discuss measures to be taken after examining the complaint.

    It added that the IOC sent a letter to the Belgian designer that was also signed by the organizing committee and the Japan Olympic Committee.

    The IOC reportedly stressed in the letter that the Tokyo logo is an original one created based on its own process. The letter said the logo contains the values and messages of the Tokyo Games and shows its links to the logo of the 1964 Tokyo Olympics.


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  16. Unrelated, I came across this stadium in Split, Croatia recently. I think the new stadium should be similar to this. Simple, of course, but perhaps paying homage to the old stadium? I mean the shape of the stands, like how they peak on a soft curve like before. The roof would have to go all the way around, covering all the seats though.



    Also it would have to be a lot bigger, given that the capacity here is 35,000...

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  17. Will it still have a retractable roof? Because as much as it rains over there during the time of the Olympics, they absolutely need it.

    Edit: nevermind it doesn't rain that much, but still is a retractable roof still going to be added to the stadium?

    They announced at the same meeting the most recent article is from that they're ditching the retractable roof as well. I haven't heard anything about the retractable seating in this new version, but we should hear more in the coming days.

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