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phandrosis

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  1. 2 years since Tokyo was chosen as host city for the 2020 Olympic and Paralympic Games! In a way, we've come full circle and are back where we started, progress wise. I wonder how the other venues are going, since they seem to be invisible...

  2. I think the reason they only want partial roofing is because they know it will work for Japan. Already, three former WC stadiums including the largest stadium in Japan (as of now) have partial roofs. They all still draw crowds, and there haven't been any project to extend the roofs either. Here are some examples: International Stadium Yokohama is roofed only over the top tier. Miyagi Stadium is also partial, but not exactly in the sense of top tier only. Nagai Stadium has the same type of partial as Miyagi. Strangely enough, it has retractable seating!
  3. I always thought that too. The Paralympic logo always seemed a little more balanced, I suppose you could say.
  4. I suppose it's only fair that they are also allowed to compete, but I really don't think they'll be chosen again. Can you imagine the PR nightmare having scrapped a design and then taken it back? Either way, Hadid's design, no matter how hard she tries to sell it, doesn't represent Japan as it should and as I image the new designs will.
  5. I think the given capacities are/were for Track and Field configuration. I think the original documents for the Hadid design had the T&F capacity in the low 70,000 but the fully un-retracted capacity for football would have been around 80,000. I believe the JSC made it mandatory that the stadium be capable of expansion to 80,000 for football, so either the distance from the stands to the track will be larger, or the lowest tier will be higher up. For the Olympics, it's been confirmed that the capacity will be 68,000.
  6. If it helps, this photo illustrates side by side the differences in the original plan and the new plan 'Tis better to have been roofed a little than never to have been roofed at all. http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002389263
  7. Also I just found this in Dezeen. If it's more than just conspiracy, there is a serious problem here that's only just beginning to be addressed. http://www.dezeen.com/2015/09/01/tokyo-withdraws-2020-olympics-logo-plagiarism-allegations-kenjiro-sano/
  8. Maybe they'll line trash cans with them. They are paper so they'll decompose. This just came to mind. The original emblem only lasted for 40 days. I didn't realize how short that is until now.
  9. The reason that a lot of these are catching some attention online is that the elements in the Osaka and Japan Endless Discovery logos seems to be what a large part of the population wants to see. The hinomaru, the cherry blossom, Mt. Fuji, the aspects of Japan the world is already familiar with seems to be what many people want to continue using for the games.
  10. I found this website through Twitter today with a compilation of most of the user submitted emblems. I chose a few I could see as a good emblem for the games, but feel free to go through them on your own. http://togetter.com/li/863363?page=1   (It's similar to Beijing, but this one is really good) There's a few more "classical" ones as well.
  11. The committee reflects the government in this case, and it's similar in a lot of countries. A bunch of old guys out of touch with the youth. Japan is largely elderly, but there is still a large youth population, which in Tokyo is actually increasing. With all those young folks online, they're able to call out the OC on things like the stadium and logo.
  12. If you remember, I posted a photo of a design posted on a blog about the New National Stadium. I just recently saw that it was featured on a television show! It seems that others agree that this style of simplicity is what Japan really should have.
  13. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20150902_20.html
  14. The handover ceremony is more or less the same distance from now as the original contest was from whenever in July it was released. I feel like they should release it a bit before, though, as to not steal the thunder of the closing ceremony, especially on Japanese TV where instead of focusing on the performance people will be looking for the logo alone. I feel like they would want the logo on apparel for the Japanese athletes to wear at the closing, like Russia and I think Korea did at their respective winter handovers.
  15. A couple news stories dealing with the aftermath. I'm not quite sure what he means by publicly inviting entries since the original competition was in a way public. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20150901_45.html It seems that he wants the IOC to say that Sano plagarized him. I don't know how well that will work out... http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20150902_06.html http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20150902_04.html http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20150902_01.html
  16. I think it was a bit of both. There was a change the IOC/TOCOG would be paying $50,000 for every time the logo is used, so I imagine they wanted to avoid that. Sano was the one (reportedly) who asked that his logos be withdrawn, as they would continue to give the games bad PR.
  17. http://www.latimes.com/sports/more/la-sp-sn-city-council-bid-2024-olympics-20150901-story.html
  18. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20150901_45.html The video with the article is a little saddening, mostly because a government office in Shinjuku just got banners with the emblem the other day and now have to take them down. Also at Haneda, they have this pretty cool "brush-drawn" style pictograms for sports, but the emblem is on these wraps as well, so they have to either take the entire thing down or cover it up. I wonder if Sano will ever get work again...
  19. They reverted back to the bid logo for now on the official website and all social medias, using the original Discover Tomorrow banner. Here's what they had to say on Facebook: In a way the logo is extinct and the only remaining official sources are the ones people already have saved. Maybe one say in the future the original logo will be lost in time...
  20. Here's some of the designs that citizens have created ever since the emblem was accused. I like #6 the most out of all options here.
  21. A bunch of news today that will be overshadowed by the emblem. The JSC has begun reaching out for designs and contractors. http://www.jpnsport.go.jp/corp/tabid/116/Default.aspx#01 Designers must express interest by 18 September 2015, and submit designs by 16 November 2015. The guidelines are the same as those that have been rolling in over the month. They are: 68,000 capacity, required capability to construct an additional 12,000 for World Cup (ambitious, but it'll happen someday I'm sure) 1.28 billion USD/155 billion Yen budget limitation for contractors and designers (unknown if they planned for overruns, maybe they did) Deadline of January 31st, 2020 http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20150901_26.html It appears that JSC is accepting design proposals for the slight renovation of Yoyogi for seismic retrofitting. Sensible, given that Yoyogi was build only the year before the 1964 games, like the Budokan, so they had to do it quickly. THe proposal deadline for that is 24 September 2015. They're also reaching out to companies who will help with the public lotteries to help pay for the stadium as well. No English site yet, and there probably wont be since they're probably trying to avoid foreign designers without having to outright say it. http://www.jpnsport.go.jp/corp/tabid/116/Default.aspx#01
  22. This was probably the best idea to save face at this point. Even though the logo could have worked, the public was definitely not behind it. I feel like, with the stadium, this is an example of a small board selecting something that will represent the entire nation worldwide that the people should have honestly been involved with. I don't even know what they'll do now. They could release a poll with the original submitted designs, or possibly do something similar to the bid logo, where they went to the public and refined a design created not specifically by an award winning designer.
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