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  1. Debt-Strapped Japan Planning a No-Frills Olympics


    Tokyo’s 2020 Olympic Games will be the first of a leaner type of competition that will limit spending on big-ticket venues to avoid alienating the public, Chief Executive Officer Toshiro Muto said, two months after debt-ridden Japan canceled plans for a futuristic main stadium.

    Japan is struggling to control a public debt more than twice the size of its $4.6 trillion economy, as social security costs spiral due to an aging population. With the risk of another recession as his Abenomics policies fail to boost growth in Asia’s second-biggest economy, Abe is looking to avoid a public backlash by keeping a cap on Olympic spending.

    This article seemed like it was written on older information, meaning it theorized that Tokyo would have to move outside the 8km promise when they have done so for a few months already. I think that Muto is saying that they wont pull a Beijing where they build all new venues for every sport just to let them rot.

  2. If you were looking for evidence that Hadid's efforts will not come to fruition, here are some excerpts of an Inside the Games article:

    Architects of scrapped Tokyo 2020 stadium warn of "lower-quality" design

    Zaha Hadid Architects have warned the competition process for the construction of the much-maligned Tokyo 2020 National Stadium could cause a “lower-quality” venue to be built which may cost “much more than anticipated”.

    The London-based firm, who were behind the construction of the Aquatics Centre used for the 2012 Olympic Games, have teamed up with Japanese company Nikken Sekkei to form updated plans to design the Tokyo stadium after their initial idea was scrapped in July.

    But with just one day remaining until the company who will be awarded the construction contract is revealed, they have yet to find a suitable construction contractor to help carry out the project.

    This has prompted them to claim the process has “restricted the existing design team, as well as many other Japanese and international architects that may wish to take part, from entering the new competition without a construction contractor”.

    They have, however, vowed to “deliver the most cost-effective Stadium of the highest quality for the people of Japan that builds on their investment in the two years of comprehensive design work, is ready in good time for the 2020 Games and provides a new home for sport in Japan for generations to come”.

    “These restrictions risk the project again facing the problem of a lack of competition between contractors that has led to increased construction costs and major delays,” a Zaha Hadid statement read.

    “The risk also remains that a restricted competition with the fixed construction deadline will lead to a rushed design and lower quality Stadium that costs more than anticipated, may not be ready in time and does not provide for a sustainable and productive long term use.

    “The design team remains ready to work with a construction contractor, the National Government and Tokyo Metropolitan authority to deliver a revised National Stadium design of the highest standards and value for money, ready for all athletes and spectators of the Tokyo 2020 Games, and go on to host national, international, local and community events for the next 50-100 years.”

    The development comes after Japanese Prime Minister Shinzō Abe scrapped the original plan for the Stadium last month, due to be built on the site of the arena used for the 1964 Olympics, in the face of public criticism after its costs rose to ¥252 billion (£1.3 billion/$2 billion/€1.8 billion), nearly twice original estimates.

    The Japanese Government announced a revised budget of JPY ¥155 billion (£800 million/€1.1 billion/$1.3 billion) but concerns still remain over whether a suitable venue can be constructed in the relatively short time-frame.

    It was due to be used as part of Japan’s hosting of the 2019 Rugby World Cup and Zaha Hadid have claimed they would be able to get it ready in time for the event in four years’ time should they be awarded the construction contract.

    The timeline remains tight, with the Government having put forward a final completion date of March 2020, although they will aim to be ready two months earlier in January in order to comply with an International Olympic Committee (IOC) request.


    What does this mean? No Japanese contractors want to work with Hadid. Maybe they aren't capable to build it or they just don't like the design. It seems that whatever contractor is chosen, it may become harder for Hadid to stick with the bike helmet design.

  3. Little bit of information on what has been a slow few weeks for news about Tokyo 2020. I found a Huffington Post article explaining that while the government is starting from scratch, the stadium will still sit on what can only be described as raised land that existed mostly as proposed in Hadid's plan and if you look back, in about all the proposed designs by other architects. The reason for this of course is that if they tried to build all 68,000 seats from ground level and up, it would be much taller and wider in all directions.


  4. It would be a nice change away from Asia (which is all but guaranteed for 2026 anyway). I don't think Vancouver is close enough to really cause any trouble. If you look at recent hosts, the IOC probably doesn't mind Winter in North America

    2002- North America

    2006- Europe

    2010- North America

    2014- Europe??? Culture wise Sochi isn't stereotypically Asian

    2018- Asia

    2022- Asia

    2026- Could be anywhere. Don't count on Sapporo 2026 unless everyone drops out ^_^

    When I say close enough I mean time wise, not geography.

  5. Just in case anyone is actually convinced, the process of submission if anything will begin soon. Remember, a committee has just been set up to set up the selection committee. If I had to predict, it'll probably be around some major date. Perhaps New Years, anniversary of Nagano or Sapporo opening, or even the 4 years to go date just weeks before Rio. At this point, we know very little.

  6. This page makes ZERO sense no sh!t the mascot will be revealed in 2017 it's always revealed the year before. Your post are ignorant garbage and this honestly needs to stop. The whole TeamBl(a.e.i.o)keUSA needs to stop to bring back back the dignity of this forum. Please.

    I think Tokyo said in their foundation plan that they'll be releasing their mascot in 2017 as well. Probably it will last about a month or two before plagiarism kills it :lol:

  7. http://www.japantoday.com/category/sports/view/tokyo-olympics-plans-stumble-on-stadium-fiasco-logo-fuss

    Tokyo Olympics plans stumble on stadium fiasco, logo fuss

    I felt that this article tastefully wraps up the events of the last couple of months. I'm looking foward to a change towards the better, but better put...

    “We need to treat the stadium fiasco as a wake-up call and stop this runaway train before it is too late,” said Hideki Kato of the think tank Japan Initiative.
  8. News direct from TOCOG:

    It is essential that a transparent process to select the new Games emblems is set in motion as quickly as possible, and that the new emblems receive the support of the general public. Accordingly, the Tokyo 2020 Organising Committee has today announced plans for the establishment of a preliminary committee to initiate a Tokyo 2020 Emblems Selection Committee (provisional name).

    A chairperson will be appointed to head the preliminary committee. Following the addition of further members, the preliminary committee will select the membership of the Tokyo 2020 Emblems Selection Committee, examine the issues surrounding the withdrawal of the previous Games emblems, and based on its findings will formulate a basic policy for the selection of new Tokyo 2020 Games emblems.

    Tokyo 2020 will keep posting information regarding the selection of the new Games emblems on its website.


  9. I think the reason they only want partial roofing is because they know it will work for Japan. Already, three former WC stadiums including the largest stadium in Japan (as of now) have partial roofs. They all still draw crowds, and there haven't been any project to extend the roofs either. Here are some examples:

    International Stadium Yokohama is roofed only over the top tier.



    Miyagi Stadium is also partial, but not exactly in the sense of top tier only.



    Nagai Stadium has the same type of partial as Miyagi. Strangely enough, it has retractable seating!



  10. I think the given capacities are/were for Track and Field configuration. I think the original documents for the Hadid design had the T&F capacity in the low 70,000 but the fully un-retracted capacity for football would have been around 80,000. I believe the JSC made it mandatory that the stadium be capable of expansion to 80,000 for football, so either the distance from the stands to the track will be larger, or the lowest tier will be higher up. For the Olympics, it's been confirmed that the capacity will be 68,000.

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