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Everything posted by mr.bernham

  1. Seems a bit more ambitious than what Paris can satisfactorily pull off--at least for the live spectators. I'm sure the shots will look great on TV. I think there's an understandable and noble desire to have an opening ceremony that shows off the majesty and beauty of Paris. I don't think, however, putting it on the Seine is the best execution of this idea. Makes much more sense (to me at least) to set up a temporary "stadium" on Place de la Concorde or just focus on the Trocadero/Eiffel Tower site...ala Lillehammer. Based on the few details that have emerged so far, it seems less like the full "ceremony" will actually happen in the Seine and more like certain elements of the ceremony will involve the Seine. Appears that most things will be based at/end at the Trocadero, including cauldron lighting.
  2. I literally voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020. I'm a registered Democrat. Please don't call me a Trumper simply because I personally do not like Osaka. Frankly Baron, I do not understand why you brought American politics into this discussion.
  3. Yeah I am. Look, facing disappointment in anything is devastating, I get that. I'm sorry her Olympic journey has ended early, and I wish her the best moving forward and hope she is able to recover and return and succeed in Paris. That being said, I personally was not a fan of how she has been turned into this strange globalist icon. Maybe it's just my own personal political feelings and personal disagreements with how she responded to the honor of lighting the cauldron.
  4. Glad to see that twat Osaka who didn't deserve to light the cauldron get knocked out in Tennis Prelims. Serve's her right.
  5. By the time the alternative design was built, they cost the same.
  6. Did anyone here read up on the original opening ceremonies plan? Would've been a much more exciting event and in-line with what we were promised during 2016's handover ceremony.
  7. Long time no see. Glad to be back. What a sh*t opening ceremonies. I'm gonna pop off a bit here, but I'm frankly over every single thing being about COVID. Was the pandemic horrible, yes, but should we talk about it every five seconds? No. This opening ceremonies was like if in 1948, London decided to make their entire opening ceremonies about memorializing WW2. As many have said, some artistic segments were nice. Overall, however, I found it to be disorganized and stale. I understand that the pandemic is still raging and that it has changed the world dramatically, but the Olympics are meant to be a moment where we come together as a global community not to mope and sulk, but to celebrate the best of human achievement. Regardless of how you feel about individual elements from this ceremony or COVID, I think we can all agree that what Tokyo's ceremonies lacked were a sense of celebration. Sure, COVID hit us hard, but we're still here, the world is still turning, and the athletes of the world are still ready to reach faster, higher, stronger--together. This may be doomer of me to say, but I can't help but shake the feeling that last night we watched the death of the Olympics. They died, not to the sound of thunderous applause, but to the eternally cringe "Imagine" and faint echo's of loud protests emanating from outside the stadium; where the real spectators were allowed to gather.
  8. Quaker, any boycott that would happen would be like the mooted boycott of Berlin in 1936 and the actual boycott carried out in 1980; it's intended to send a political message. Would it be effective? Probably not. But you're acting like Trump or Biden or whoever the hell is President in 2022 will act rationally with international business interests in mind. Anti-China sentiment is high in the U.S. right now. It's not just some fringe sentiment expressed by Trump, it's a mainstream view shared by many Americans. Boycotting the games would allow politicians to posture themselves as "tough on China" (a popular position these days) and show that they care more about "human rights" (or whatever the boycott justification is) than international business. As for 2028, sure that's a valid concern. However, consider that with how volatile things are right now, who's to say China and the U.S. will not have engaged in some kind of hot conflict by then? What if China has a regime change? This is like trying to say in 1988 that if America hosts the 1996 Olympics, the USSR will boycott again. We simply can't know what on earth will happen in 2028, and I promise you that the politicians who would make the call in this area, or at least try to pressure the USOC, will not give a damn about 2028. After all, USSR and Eastern Bloc didn't participate in the 1984 games and from an American perspective they were the best games ever (not saying I agree with this, just that you should expect '84 to be used to dismiss concerns about a possible 2028 China boycott).
  9. The Beijing 2022 games will be our generation's Berlin 1936. They will happen. There will be controversies and protests. The games will go on. Yet, they will exist as a black mark on the IOC's history.
  10. I was kinda hoping they would just push everything back four years...that way LA could host 100 years after the first time they hosted.
  11. Looks fantastic. Simple, green, sleek, modern--it's a very fitting design for the times and era we live in. It might not be the spaceship Zaha designed, but it makes up for that in it's elegant design. Really looking forward to these games.
  12. I might try and made something. Maybe something for Zurich or Mexico.
  13. I would love a Shanghai games, but I think if it came down between Jakarta or Shanghai...I'd pick Shanghai. Especially given that Beijing is hosting in 2022. There's more to Asia than just Japan, South Korea, and China. Thankfully the rest of Asia is just as capable of hosting as China, Japan, and South Korea. I'd love to see a joint Singapore-Malyasia bid, or just a Kuala Lumpur bid. Either way the IOC would be going to a nation with a significant or majority Muslim population...that would be such a good transition ceremony; Islamic art and music in the LA Memorial Coliseum. Good thing Trump won't be POTUS then
  14. Not to double post, but I found this map made by The Courier Mail depicting potential venue sites in Brisbane. Not sure if it's a reliable source, or a legit proposal, there was a paywall to read the article.
  15. I'd much prefer to see a Melbourne bid over Brisbane. Melbourne hosted a fantastic CWG in 2006, and a sold games in '56. It would be great if Brisbane lost the 2032 bid and Melbourne hosted in 2036. I feel that would be a good enough distance from Sydney (and maintain Melbourne's 6th year sporting tradition).
  16. Alright man, chill...I'm getting way more heat than is necessary. By bullshit I meant that just because a city is a 'global city' doesn't make it a perfect natural fit for the games. Rio is a great example, as is Athens. Yes they are fantastic global cities, but not such fantastic Olympic hosts. In the case of the other nations you mention, they have the luxury of putting forth truly global cities that are physically capable of hosting the games within the time slots the IOC desires; why would you go with a lesser city when the greater one can host even better (and in July/August). According to the AOC, Australia doesn't really have that luxury. Sydney and Melbourne are far and away the most suitable cities from every rational perspective, but apparently the AOC and IOC doesn't want to consider them because they can't host in July/August. I don't want Brisbane to host, I just think debating on whether or not Brisbane is a global city is a pointless fight to have given that the AOC apparently doesn't give a damn and has already decided to go with them. And just for historical clarification Brisbane made it to the fourth round (came in third place) for the '92 games and beat out both Amsterdam and Birmingham, and I think it's fair to say Amsterdam is far and away a more global city than Brisbane. As for my support for Houston, yeah, I do support the idea that the nations fourth largest city (almost third) and huge global center for education, healthcare, sport, research, trade, and culture should host the Olympics some day. My sincerest apologies for not thinking every US games should be held in Los Angeles.
  17. She's only 91 years old, she'll be 96 in 2022 and the Queen Mother didn't die until she was 101. I could see her still being around. And you're right. It's smart for them to use existing venues, even if they're in London. It ensures the Olympic Park is used again, and spreads the excitement of the event. It's also just cost-effective.
  18. So, TNMP, how difficult would it be for Brisbane to put together a realistic plan for the Olympics? I think the 'global cities' argument is a little bullshit. So all that out the window, from a technical perspective could Brisbane actually do it?
  19. Yeah, that's actually a good point. What about a 2026 winter olympic games logo contest and a 2032 Summer games logo contest? Do a flip with winter cities being summer cities and summer cities being winter cities?
  20. I miss the old full out bid comps we used to have here. I'd like to see that again. Maybe a 2026 bid comp?
  21. Thank god. Personally I think Sydney had one of the best main stadiums of any recent Olympic Games, it would've been a true loss. Though I'm left wondering what happened to this plan from October of 2016; was it NSW's new premier?
  22. Really happy A won. I liked C, but A fits the entire brand of the games much more. Not to mention, I think they'll be able to do some cool futuristic looking stuff with these mascots. I mean the Paralympic mascot has jet wings...come on...these are gonna be some cool mascots. I just hope their backstory isn't as strange as London's.
  23. Unpopular opinion: I didn't like Sochi 2014. Lacked heart. Felt just like a big two hour propaganda video. Sure it looked cool, but it was what I expected from Russia. Impressive, but lacking heart and soul.
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