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  1. I travelled to Japan in 2010 and what I found was a country that had incredible order and organization, a country that could be delicate, serious, serene and introspective, a country that had history and modernity...and then turn around the next corner and you found a country that was chaotic, kooky, giddy, cute, goofy, silly, crazy and mind boggling. 2020 won't be 1964.
  2. I also wonder if Tokyo 2020 kills any hopes of the so-called Paris 2024 bid. I mean a twice host backed by a three-times host? Not sure that will happen.
  3. Don't put too much faith in South Africa's chances. They are about the same as Turkey's and Spain's.
  4. I supported Istanbul in my heart, but Tokyo was a safe alternate. There is a time for the IOC to throw the dice and gamble a bit, and a time to play safe. With the upcoming Games in Sochi, Rio and PC, the IOC took three gambles in a row. A fourth was just too much. I hope Madrid has learned a lesson - still too soon after Barcelona 1992 for a country of Spain's size and economy to pull this off - and that they don't bid again for a long time. Even as time goes by, their numbers are dropping. As for Istanbul, can't really predict what their future bid ambitions should be. Maybe 2024? Maybe hold off for a while? They've been bidding for 20 years, save for the 2016 cycle, and this is the closest they can get. And for Tokyo...well, Japan will do a good job. But with PC 2018 and Tokyo 2020, Asian cities should have to wait 8-10 years to try again.
  5. I don't believe for a minute that IOC voters vote in continental or linguistic blocs. This isn't Olympivision or Olympic Idol. They vote based on their own individual assessment of what is best for the movement, sport, the athletes, the federations, and other considerations. Sometimes they are moved by the narrative. Sometimes, pragmatism takes over.
  6. I don't think that is an issue. The IOC members probably need to know the result of the tie immediately, considering it is a head-to-head elimination of just two candidates that already tied. They need to feel confident that going into the next round, the city going forward is the one that should go forward. Like how in the 2004 race, Cape Town got ahead of Buenos Aries after their bottom tie in the first round, and then Cape Town made it passed Stockholm in the next round.
  7. It all depends now on where the Madrid backers and the 3 Spanish IOC members want to shop/party/drink/eat in 2020. Istanbul may need all of them or slightly more than half of them...we'll find out soon enough.
  8. Well...hope you didn't spend it, because it is spent! LOL
  9. Very very very close. I wouldn't be surprised if Tokyo escaped elimination itself on that first round by a vote or two. We're talking of a vote split ranging from 24-24-46 to 31-31-32.
  10. Host city winner: Istanbul First city voted out: Madrid How many voting rounds to decide the winner: Two Which sport will be added: Wrestling Who will be the new IOC president: Thomas Bach
  11. To the masses, the Olympics get discussed for a few weeks every second year or so - unless your country is particularly bad in one set, then only once in four years, or if your country/region is hosting the Olympics, then every single day for seven to ten years. But for us here? Yeah, it is a nerdy little interest. But it is our nerdy little interest! And very endearing.
  12. Yeah...although having been here for over a decade, I haven't met anyone. I guess I feel this is a bit of a 'nerdy' interest of mine and I'm kind of a private person. I don't come around here as much either. Certainly not as much as in the build up to the Vancouver games.
  13. They wouldn't be missed. I don't mean that to be cruel. They just aren't a winter games power. They're not even much of a summer games power. Only sent 3 athletes to Vancouver. And their 6 medals in London matched their combined effort for all the Olympics of the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s and 1990s. Still, for the athletes that do qualify, would be good for them to go. Although India's presence at the winter games is more of a novelty than a contender.
  14. All these draconian measures to ban or hide something that is just a harmless part of human nature. It's just easier to let people be who they are.
  15. I don't favour a boycott (that will only punish the athletes while giving the Russians loads of medals) and it is far too late to move the Games (while Vancouver 2014 has a nice ring to it, there are only 6 months to prepare). But I think that individual spectators should stay away from Sochi. Empty streets and stadiums would embarrass the Russians. And be a waste of the billions they spent. Or cover them in pride flags...like the organizers themselves did in Moscow in 1980.
  16. Those rankings are never totally accurate, but Detroit's relatively high ranking could be a 'hangover' from Detroit's hay days. Fifty years ago, it was the fifth largest city in North America - behind New York, Mexico, Chicago and Los Angeles - and it was even in the position to bid for several Olympic Games in the 1950s and 1960s. Look at some of the old (and sadly now abandoned) buildings in Detroit and you see a city that was once wealthy, prosperous and on the move upward. That's not the case any more. But that former prosperity brought the city a certain level of status and things like professional sports teams, international conferences, and the like. The city is also still a busy international border crossing. But the glory days of the 1950s have gone the ways of Nash, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Plymouth and Mercury - and the city is sadly rusted out and up on blocks.
  17. No, it is not good publicity. It is a set up for ridicule. There are plenty of wonderful smaller sized cities that are lovely to visit and live in...but they ain't gonna host the Olympics. Here in Canada, places like Victoria, BC and Halifax, NS are nice smaller cities. But they'll never host the Summer Games. London. Rio. Sydney. Beijing. They are all global and iconic cities that are known the world over. And they are big with big infrastructure and big money. That's the type of city that hosts the Olympics. OK yeah, once they went Atlanta and another time they were hosted in places like Antwerp and Helsinki, but that was the past. The future is BIG!
  18. A year ago, I would have said that Istanbul was on track to take this with Tokyo as a close back up and Madrid further behind. In fact, I did say that...or something like it. Now? Who knows? It could be the same or the compete opposite. Or just flat out Tokyo. Or maybe the IOC will just stay in Buenos Aires and upgrade the 2018 YOGs.
  19. I often think it is harder for a city that comes in second to have to sit through the process than one that eliminated early. Must be so emotionally draining to come so close and then have to watch your opponent celebrate. I think back to Singapore in 2005. Deflated Paris 2012 had to sit there, hopes dashed and weeping, while right next to them, elated London 2012 was jumping up and down, screaming for joy. Moscow, New York and Madrid had already licked (and liquored up) their wounds for a while before that, so their tension was long gone.
  20. I'm sorry to all the Toronto 2008 supporters, but your bid, like all other 2008 bids, was dashed the second Beijing announced their intentions to bid. Sometimes, it is your moment and sometimes it isn't and for the 2008 Games, the IOC was going to throw every bid under the bus, no matter how sound, compact or appealing, so they could throw China a bone.
  21. Wow...here's something we haven't seen in a long time. Gamesbidders pretty much in pleasant agreement that they are pleased with a recently launched Olympic design! LOL! But keeping on trend, I'll add my praise to the chorus...very nice!
  22. I've been to: Athens Paris London Antwerp Amsterdam Los Angeles Berlin Melbourne Rome Tokyo Mexico City Montreal Barcelona Sydney Rio de Janeiro Calgary Vancouver
  23. This needs a poll! http://www.gamesbids.com/forums/topic/22695-poll-on-the-pyeongchang-2018-emblem/
  24. Well, the PC18 logo isn't really ahead of its time. If so, the future is going to be boring. Wait a minute...I knew it reminded me of something! It's just Aster breaking off a leg and hopping out of a box. LOL
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